Thread: An Obama defeat would be a victory for our side!

Originally Posted by dman1200

Originally Posted by April

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

They were talking about McCain and illegal aliens yesterday on the news, I think it was Fox. They said now McCain says he wants more guest worker programs, but to get a path to citizenship, they have to go back home to apply. I couldn't believe it. He said securing the border has to come first.

Thats right don't believe it , he is trying to get votes. We will have our hand full fighting amnesty with either idiot!

Thank you April. I really don't understand this line of thinking from some people. We are really screwed no matter who wins. The presidency is a lost cause and has been since Reagan left. People need to concentrate on Congress and the Senate. No matter who wins the presidency we have zero representation there period. We just have to make sure we vote in enough Congress and Senate folks to block either one of these idiots from doing most of the damage they intend to cause. I don't believe McCain either on immigration. He'll do and say anything to get us to vote for him and then he'll stab us in the back. Obama is a POS no doubt, but if I'm going to get stabbed, I rather get stabbed with someone who will look me in the eye and you know it's coming then get stabbed in the back, but someone who pretends to be for you (McCain).

I personally am getting sick of people who are voting for McCain trying to scare me with this crap about if you vote third party that means Obama wins. Guys I've said this since March of this year, I don't care. I don't care who wins this election. I've stopped caring since McCain won the nomination. I know of the dangers of Obama, but I will not in good conscience vote for that SOB who pretends to be a Republican and a patriot who has repeatedly stabbed us in the back on every issue we hold near and dear to our hearts, a man who has along with Lindsey Graham and George Bush called us bigots for supporting immigration enforcement and border security. You have to draw the line somewhere. If you can't draw the line with McCain then who do you draw the line with?

It doesn't matter who wins, I'm prepared for some really s--t times ahead regardless. You all should do the same. Now if instead of McCain running if it were someone middle of the road like Mitt Romney who I don't think is all the great, but isn't terrible either, I would have held my nose for him, but McCain oh hell no.

I don't care what happens, at least I can have a clear conscience knowing that I didn't cast a vote for any of these traitors. So I can be held blameless. Those of you willing to compromise your beliefs to get a Republican in power because your scared of the Democrat, shame on you. That line of thinking got us 8 years of Bush and he did far greater damage then the Democrats could ever hope and dream of. Remember that. I will vote third party and let the chips fall where they may. I will vote for who I think is the best person for the job and not fall for the scare tactics of the same docile sheep that don't have the balls to stand by their beliefs.

So no there is no victory for us no matter who wins. Anyone who believes that is fooling themselves. We lose no matter if it's Obama or McCain.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the difference between Obama and McCain
hasn't been paying much attention. Obama wants to "fundamentally change the country". I didn't study rocket science but I do see the warning signs....

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by dman1200

Originally Posted by April

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

They were talking about McCain and illegal aliens yesterday on the news, I think it was Fox. They said now McCain says he wants more guest worker programs, but to get a path to citizenship, they have to go back home to apply. I couldn't believe it. He said securing the border has to come first.

Thats right don't believe it , he is trying to get votes. We will have our hand full fighting amnesty with either idiot!

Thank you April. I really don't understand this line of thinking from some people. We are really screwed no matter who wins. The presidency is a lost cause and has been since Reagan left. People need to concentrate on Congress and the Senate. No matter who wins the presidency we have zero representation there period. We just have to make sure we vote in enough Congress and Senate folks to block either one of these idiots from doing most of the damage they intend to cause. I don't believe McCain either on immigration. He'll do and say anything to get us to vote for him and then he'll stab us in the back. Obama is a POS no doubt, but if I'm going to get stabbed, I rather get stabbed with someone who will look me in the eye and you know it's coming then get stabbed in the back, but someone who pretends to be for you (McCain).

I personally am getting sick of people who are voting for McCain trying to scare me with this crap about if you vote third party that means Obama wins. Guys I've said this since March of this year, I don't care. I don't care who wins this election. I've stopped caring since McCain won the nomination. I know of the dangers of Obama, but I will not in good conscience vote for that SOB who pretends to be a Republican and a patriot who has repeatedly stabbed us in the back on every issue we hold near and dear to our hearts, a man who has along with Lindsey Graham and George Bush called us bigots for supporting immigration enforcement and border security. You have to draw the line somewhere. If you can't draw the line with McCain then who do you draw the line with?

It doesn't matter who wins, I'm prepared for some really s--t times ahead regardless. You all should do the same. Now if instead of McCain running if it were someone middle of the road like Mitt Romney who I don't think is all the great, but isn't terrible either, I would have held my nose for him, but McCain oh hell no.

I don't care what happens, at least I can have a clear conscience knowing that I didn't cast a vote for any of these traitors. So I can be held blameless. Those of you willing to compromise your beliefs to get a Republican in power because your scared of the Democrat, shame on you. That line of thinking got us 8 years of Bush and he did far greater damage then the Democrats could ever hope and dream of. Remember that. I will vote third party and let the chips fall where they may. I will vote for who I think is the best person for the job and not fall for the scare tactics of the same docile sheep that don't have the balls to stand by their beliefs.

So no there is no victory for us no matter who wins. Anyone who believes that is fooling themselves. We lose no matter if it's Obama or McCain.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the difference between Obama and McCain
hasn't been paying much attention. Obama wants to "fundamentally change the country". I didn't study rocket science but I do see the warning signs....

Know what you mean. We had much much better choice than McCain like Tom Tancredo or Fred Thompson. People eliminated them. now we got Obama. So I don't understand. We should have chosen someone other than McCain way before this mess because we all know McCain and Obama are same way before. So what is the problem?

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

They were talking about McCain and illegal aliens yesterday on the news, I think it was Fox. They said now McCain says he wants more guest worker programs, but to get a path to citizenship, they have to go back home to apply. I couldn't believe it. He said securing the border has to come first.

He'd held that position for months. Where have you been??? If you search you'll see that he made this position clear months ago. Yet that did not make a difference.

Secure Borders FIRST
Pathway to citizenship for illegals but must stand at the end of the line

Originally Posted by TexasBorn

Originally Posted by dman1200

Originally Posted by April

Originally Posted by tinybobidaho

They were talking about McCain and illegal aliens yesterday on the news, I think it was Fox. They said now McCain says he wants more guest worker programs, but to get a path to citizenship, they have to go back home to apply. I couldn't believe it. He said securing the border has to come first.

Thats right don't believe it , he is trying to get votes. We will have our hand full fighting amnesty with either idiot!

Thank you April. I really don't understand this line of thinking from some people. We are really screwed no matter who wins. The presidency is a lost cause and has been since Reagan left. People need to concentrate on Congress and the Senate. No matter who wins the presidency we have zero representation there period. We just have to make sure we vote in enough Congress and Senate folks to block either one of these idiots from doing most of the damage they intend to cause. I don't believe McCain either on immigration. He'll do and say anything to get us to vote for him and then he'll stab us in the back. Obama is a POS no doubt, but if I'm going to get stabbed, I rather get stabbed with someone who will look me in the eye and you know it's coming then get stabbed in the back, but someone who pretends to be for you (McCain).

I personally am getting sick of people who are voting for McCain trying to scare me with this crap about if you vote third party that means Obama wins. Guys I've said this since March of this year, I don't care. I don't care who wins this election. I've stopped caring since McCain won the nomination. I know of the dangers of Obama, but I will not in good conscience vote for that SOB who pretends to be a Republican and a patriot who has repeatedly stabbed us in the back on every issue we hold near and dear to our hearts, a man who has along with Lindsey Graham and George Bush called us bigots for supporting immigration enforcement and border security. You have to draw the line somewhere. If you can't draw the line with McCain then who do you draw the line with?

It doesn't matter who wins, I'm prepared for some really s--t times ahead regardless. You all should do the same. Now if instead of McCain running if it were someone middle of the road like Mitt Romney who I don't think is all the great, but isn't terrible either, I would have held my nose for him, but McCain oh hell no.

I don't care what happens, at least I can have a clear conscience knowing that I didn't cast a vote for any of these traitors. So I can be held blameless. Those of you willing to compromise your beliefs to get a Republican in power because your scared of the Democrat, shame on you. That line of thinking got us 8 years of Bush and he did far greater damage then the Democrats could ever hope and dream of. Remember that. I will vote third party and let the chips fall where they may. I will vote for who I think is the best person for the job and not fall for the scare tactics of the same docile sheep that don't have the balls to stand by their beliefs.

So no there is no victory for us no matter who wins. Anyone who believes that is fooling themselves. We lose no matter if it's Obama or McCain.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the difference between Obama and McCain
hasn't been paying much attention. Obama wants to "fundamentally change the country". I didn't study rocket science but I do see the warning signs....

McCain and Obama are almost one and the same, that is why McCain got the a-- whooping he so richly deserved. That is what you get McCain for being a sellout traitorous POS. Had you not treated conservatives with contempt all these years, perhaps you'd be president. All that pandering McCain did and he got destroyed in the polls. Too bad, so sad.