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    Obama to provide free college at taxpayer expense.

    Just in time to give the illegals a free education at taxpayer expense.....
    Obama Just Did For Young People What No President Before Him Has Done


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    On Friday, President Barack Obama will give millions of Americans the ultimate gift: a free education.

    At a speech Friday in Knoxville, Tennessee, Obama will be announcing his proposal to give American workers two years of a community college education.

    Obama made the announcement via a Facebook post on Thursday evening with a video teasing the proposal and outlining the basics behind this idea.

    "Put simply, what I'd like to do is to see the first two years of community college free for everybody who's willing to work for it," Obama says in the video. "That's right, free for everybody who's willing to work for it. It's something that we can accomplish and something that we can train our workforce so that we can compete with anybody in the world."

    Though the White House hasn't yet released any other details of the plan, more specifics of the proposal can be expected at Friday's speech in Knoxville and at next week's State of the Union address. USA Today reports that the cost and funding issues can be expected to be addressed in the president's upcoming budget request on February 2, though the White House has preliminary expectations that 9 million students will participate, saving each one up to $3,800 a year, which translates into an overall cost of $34.2 billion.

    This announcement should come as a godsend to the millions of young Americans who are facing every-increasing college tuition costs and, with that, seemingly insurmountable piles of student loan debts. And considering that fact that some sort of college degree is required for almost every job on the market today, a proposal like this could open countless doors for the millions of Americans who might otherwise be out of luck.

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    Like Cal said near 90 years ago, "There are enough college educated derelicts....." Looking over Congress today, they surely indicate that Cal was surely correct! It is time to get feds out of funding college educations.

    I saw a video today where 80% of college students approached sign a petition to repeal the 2nd amendment, some even when told that gun owners would be arrested, moved to FEMA camps and executed. I've asked before, what are American schools teaching?? It is necessary to know what education dollars are spent on, it is certainly not American history! College seems bent upon destroying common sense.

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    Obama knows this will never fly due to cost. Therefore, it another empty attempt at keeping the Dem sheeple in their pen. He figures to rally the Dem base and keep them thinking he is looking out for their best interest. Actually, such a (empty) promise may bring more independents on board as Dem supporters. Make no mistake, Obama is always scheming to rally his base! Liberals love anything they think they are getting for free. IMO, this is nothing more than a gimmick to energize the liberals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Make no mistake, Obama is always scheming to rally his base!
    It's called continuous campaigning. Bill Clinton was a master at it, and 'Bama has been channeling Clinton since Day One of his campaigning.

    This nonsense also serves another purpose: It keeps people from focusing on the likely result of his executive amnesty. Newly legal illegals will now compete with Americans for better jobs; the next wave of illegals will undercut the poorest Americans for entry level jobs; and the visa over stayers - lots of those from Asia - will make it even more difficult for our own STEM graduates to get STEM jobs. So look for 'Bama to continue to distract Americans from his true agenda
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Obama knows this will never fly due to cost. . .
    The taxpayers already pay for pre-school and K thru 12 for all kids.
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    President Barack Obama on Friday proposed to bring the cost of two years of community college "down to zero" for all Americans, an ambitious nationwide plan based on a popular Tennessee program signed into law by that state's Republican governor...

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-proposes...-politics.html

    Tennessee Promise: Offering free community college to all ...

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    Tennessee currently ranks 43rd in the nation in the share of residents who've completed college – 32 percent of Tennesseeans hold at least a two-year degree.



    Eyes on Tennessee as it begins free community college plan

    www.tennessean.com/.../tennessee...free...college.../7772...

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    Apr 16, 2014 - Tennessee Promise to provide free community college; Program, ... how the plan works; In state, 32% of residents have a college degree...
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    Eyes on Tennessee as it begins free community college plan

    Duane W. Gang, dgang@tennessean.com
    4:56 p.m. CDT April 16, 2014

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    STORY HIGHLIGHTS


    • Tennessee Promise to provide free community college
    • Program, headed to Gov. Bill Haslam's desk for signature, will be funded through the lottery
    • National experts say other states will watch how the plan works
    • In state, 32% of residents have a college degree. Nationally, 41% have an associate's or higher


    Higher education experts and states around the nation will have their eyes on Tennessee as the Volunteer State embarks on an ambitious plan to provide free community college to all high school graduates.

    The Tennessee Promise
    plan will make the state a leader in working to make higher education more affordable. The aim is to boost college graduation rates and build a more educated and skilled workforce. The bill is the first of its kind in the nation.


    RELATED: Lawmakers approve Tennessee Promise plan for free tuition


    "Governors across the country will be watching to see how the Tennessee plan plays out as they all try to figure out how to best tap into the talents of an increasingly diverse student population," said Richard Kahlenberg, a senior fellow at The Century Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank.


    Thomas Bailey, director and founder of the Community College Research Center at Teachers College, Columbia University in New York, said Tennessee is making a big political statement that two-year college is free.


    Generally, research has found that a $1,000 reduction in tuition increases enrollment between 2 percent and 3 percent, he said.


    But the practical effects of the plan remain to be seen. For one, community college already is relatively cheap and for some students it is free when federal aid is taken into account, Bailey said.


    OPINION: Gary Shorb says Tennessee Promise means opportunity for all graduates


    STORY: Haslam aides hear counter funding plan for 'Tennessee Promise' from private colleges


    Tennessee Promise will effectively waive the tuition and fees for two years of community college by paying the costs not already covered by other scholarships and grants.


    Still, free college doesn't necessarily mean more people will enroll, Bailey said. Some prospective students may not be able to give up jobs to enroll.


    What will be important for Tennessee is the follow-through, Bailey said. The state must put just as much emphasis on the services — counseling and help transferring to a four-year school — for students once they are enrolled, he said.


    Kahlenberg, an expert on inequality in higher education, said Tennessee's plan makes sense.


    "In today's economy, we need a more highly educated workforce, and 'free' is something people understand," he said.

    "It's important to provide a welcome mat for students of all economic backgrounds."


    Kahlenberg said some object that the plan subsidizes upper-middle-class students, but attracting them to community colleges could strengthen those two-year institutions.


    "Higher education is seeing increasing segregation by race and class — with low-income and working-class and minority students attending community colleges and better-off and white students attending four-year institutions," he said.


    "That rising economic and racial segregation reduces the political capital of community colleges, which are increasingly underfunded. Helping integrate two-year institutions will help all students attending."


    But the plan is not without its critics. Tennessee uses lottery proceeds to fund its Hope Scholarships, and the governor's plan calls for reducing the amount provided to freshmen and sophomores at four-year universities to $3,500, a $500 cut.

    The plan also shifts money from the lottery's reserves to the new endowment.


    U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Tenn., who helped create the lottery when he was a state lawmaker, has been one of the plan's biggest critics
    . Cohen has said the plan spreads resources too thin and creates a program with no achievement incentive or standards.


    Some four-year institutions also worry the plan will make it more difficult for them to maintain socioeconomic diversity in their student body.


    Nonetheless, lawmakers overwhelmingly backed the proposal this week. Haslam is expected to sign the measure into law.

    When he does, the state will use proceeds from its lottery to fund a $300 million endowment to help pay the estimated annual $34 million cost.


    "This makes a clear statement to Tennessee families that education beyond high school is a priority in our state," Haslam communications director Alexia Poe said in a statement. "It is a bold promise that will make college a reality for more high school graduates."


    The plan is a big component in the governor's "Drive to 55" initiative aimed at increasing the number of college graduates in the state from 32 percent to 55 percent by 2025.


    Reach Duane W. Gang at 615-726-5982 and on Twitter @duanegang

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    The taxpayers already pay for pre-school and K thru 12 for all kids.
    Okay, what's your point? Are you saying you support Obama on this? Just asking .........

    This plan will cost taxpayers 60 billion dollars over a ten year period.
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    The (optimistic) price tag of Obama’s free college plan

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    President Obama last week unveiled an ambitious plan to send everyone to two-year colleges for free, saying that going to school on the government’s dime should be an option for “everybody who’s willing to work for it.”
    The administration initially refused to attach a cost estimate to such a plan, before reversing itself late Friday and offering a figure: $60 billion over 10 years. For now, that’s as much information as the president is willing to share, although his federal budget proposal, due in February, is expected to offer more detailed information.
    Obama announced his free-school idea at a community college in Tennessee, whose state-level free-tuition program for high school seniors provided the blueprint for the White House’s version.
    Under the president’s plan — called “America’s College Promise” — half-time students who are making “steady progress” toward a degree would receive two years of free school at a community college, so long as they maintain grade point averages of 2.5 or better.
    In order for the plan to be available to students in a given state, that state would have to accept the yoke of federal match money.
    “Obama is proposing a split responsibility between states and the federal government in which the feds offer 75 percent of the money to send students to community colleges, while the states put up the rest,” National Journal reported. “The design is, in part, a nod to states, which run the public college system, but it also could be read by some Republicans as a federal intrusion into states’ turf.”
    States have varying degrees of success of prioritizing workforce development through their two-year college systems — and funding those programs through varying combinations of state funds and federal dollars. But the Obama administration’s plan doesn’t yet suggest a way for the federal government to cough up its 75 percent share — except, as National journal put it, “to ask Congress for the money.”
    Critics instantly compared the plan to the existing federal student loan bubble, which they argue has done more to aggrandize universities and drive up tuition costs than help students afford to go to school. And it introduces some potential new problems.
    “If [under the new proposal] a student falls into the extremely high drop-out rate for students, the government (and the taxpayers) don’t get the money back,” Reason’s Scott Shackford wrote Friday. “So the White House is promoting a program funded by taxpayers to subsidize — wait, I mean further subsidize — a system that has baked in an extremely high failure rate.
    “[T]his program is not a subsidy for students. It’s a subsidy for faculty and college level administrative bloat… Community college presidents across the country are drooling.”
    And then there’s the cost: $60 billion over 10 years, according to the White House. But before the president coughed up that figure, several media outlets had extrapolated, from Obama’s own promotional rhetoric, how much the plan is likely to cost: Try $34 billion per year.
    “[T]he president’s announcement said that the plan could benefit as many as nine million students who could save an average of $3,800 per year,” The Weekly Standard wrote. “This would put the total cost at a little more than $34 billion… At $34 billion per year, taxpayers at least will be working for it, willing or not.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    The taxpayers already pay for pre-school and K thru 12 for all kids.
    Yep, "all kids" .......... including illegal alien kids!
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