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    I can hardly believe it but it's GREAT news!

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    I hopes this holds up. It will be interesting to see what changes come about. We won't see any good changes shown on national TV.

    All of you folks who live in OK, keep us posted about how things are going in you neck of the woods.

    My husband is from OK and we have seriously thought about retiring up there - just wonder if there will be more thinking like us and if property values will increase?
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    Of course all the corrupt business cronies of Bush will be crying about a labor shortage for sure.
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    Thanks for the Links "Bren"!!


    Latinos React To Immigration Law Ruling

    AP - 10/31/2007 5:52 PM - Updated 10/31/2007 8:02 PM
    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- A new state immigration law that targets illegal immigrants has created fear and panic in Latino communities across Oklahoma and will force many immigrants -- both documented and undocumented – to leave their jobs and homes, Latino groups said
    Wednesday.
    Why would documented people be worried about this and leave? They are so full of crap, do we look so stupid to believe this? NOT

    Latinos and their supporters reacted to the law on the eve of its Thursday effective date after a federal judge in Tulsa took under advisement a request to block its enforcement.

    In a two-page ruling, U.S. District Judge James H. Payne wrote that the plaintiffs had failed to introduce enough evidence to meet the burden of proof required for a preliminary injunction to be issued.

    "In light of plaintiffs' failure to introduce evidence in support of their motion ... the court cannot conclude that the plaintiffs' right to a preliminary injunction has been clearly and unequivocally established," Payne wrote.

    The statute -- which received bipartisan support from state lawmakers who expressed frustration with Congress' inability to pass comprehensive immigration reform – has created anxiety in Latino communities, said Pat Fennel, director of the Latino Community Development Agency in Oklahoma City.

    "So many Latinos have already left Oklahoma and many plan to do so, which is precisely what Randy Terrill wanted -- cleanse the state," Fennel said.
    Yes cleanse the state of illegal aliens!

    She predicted the statute will have dire economic consequences for Oklahoma businesses who rely on immigrant labor. Among other things, it imposes new requirements on employers to verify the immigration status and employment eligibility of their workers and penalizes those who willfully hire illegal immigrants.
    Absolutely, isn't that the point!

    "There are segments of the economy that are really feeling the impact. Those people who are here are fearful, distressed, going underground," Fennel said.
    They can not stay underground for long with no money!

    "There's going to be employment gaps and employers are going to suffer," said Rey Madrid of the League of United Latin American Citizens, a Washington-based group that is the oldest and largest Latino civil rights organization in the United States.

    "A lot of them are not going to leave, they're going to go underground," Madrid said.
    Yes again, until the money is gone!

    The measure also eliminates an illegal immigrant's ability to obtain public benefits and gives state and local law enforcement the ability to enforce immigration law, including detaining illegals until they are deported.
    Public Benefits according to La Raza they couldn't get public benefits, so this is a real plus.
    As is finally state and Local law enforcement finally doing what they are getting paid for...enforcing the law....all laws!


    Reverend Eusebius J. Beltran, Catholic Archbishop of Oklahoma City, and other clergy and church parishioners have pledged to defy the law and continue offering services to the needy regardless of their immigration status.
    Aiding and abetting...arrest them!

    "We're going forward with the same services tomorrow that we offered today," said Richard Klinge, director of advocacy and legal services for Catholic Charities.

    But Fennel said Hispanic parents are pulling their school age children out of public school classrooms and Hispanic children and adults -- including those in the country legally -- are staying away from public health care clinics in their communities.
    Good class rooms less crowded and a better education for American children.
    Why would they pull legal children out of school? Is this suppose to scare us!


    "This is not just something that has the undocumented fearful," she said. "This is really creating an adversarial environment for Latinos. Some time in the future, we're going to look back in shame. And even more shame that Oklahoma was the leader."
    Shame I don't think so, I think we will be so happy all of our hard work finally has paid off!

    Madrid, LULAC's representative in Oklahoma, said he plans to visit schools in Latino areas and speak to Latino youth groups in an effort to prevent them from reacting violently when the law goes into effect.
    Act Violently , Go ahead, that would work to our advantage, wake up more Americans!

    "They figure they're punishing us and they're targeting us," Madrid said. "I see a lot of young people with no hope of going to college, no hope of getting a good job. They get angry."
    It is only targeting you if you are here illegally!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelseacat0007
    This is great news. I was watching CNN last night, and I believe Ric Sanchez was really thinking the judge would rule against Oklahoma. Guess he was shocked.
    I hope that BIG MOUTH is shocked. It serves him right. CNN ought to pull that alcoholic killer off the air.
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    OOOOOOOOklahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldogger
    Hurray a win in court finally for out side!!!Good news!
    Shakes head! Can you believe that finally a judge with common sense! This one will be appealed in the circus court though.
    Indeed. This celebration is altogether appropriate, but this case is still in Judge Payne's court. Yesterday's ruling was a denial of a preliminary injunction. The judge's ruling basically says that the movants did not present sufficient evidence that irreparable harm would come to them if the law was implemented prior to the trial of the case. It is still an important victory, but Judge Payne will proceed now to have a full blown trial on the merits.

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