Thread: Pro-illegal NYT Editorial:The Immigrant Vote

Editorial
The Immigrant Vote

Published: January 19, 2008
The Nevada caucuses today will be the first test of the mood of immigrant voters since comprehensive immigration reform was killed.

Go to The Board » Nevada is the first state on the election calendar with a sizable Hispanic vote, and among them will be a substantial number of immigrants. We don’t know who they’ll choose, but we do know they are anxious. They have endured the racially tinged rhetoric used to sink immigration reform; they have witnessed Republican candidates exploiting the xenophobic nastiness. Families have been torn apart as illegal immigrants have been deported, leaving their citizen children behind.

Meanwhile, applications for citizenship have surged. About 1.4 million immigrants applied for citizenship in the fiscal year that ended in September, according to government estimates. That was double the number from the same period the year before. One motivation was a desire to beat a 66 percent increase in the application fee in July. But anxiety over the government’s crackdown on illegal immigrants and anger at Republicans’ efforts to make immigrants into the whipping boys of American politics, were big motivators. The National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials expects at least 9.3 million Hispanics to vote in November, 1.7 million more than in 2004. We hope the emergence of new immigrant voters will help temper the immigration debate.

President Bush largely got it right on immigration. He recognized the hard-working nature of immigrants, even those who arrived illegally. He said the nation needed a path to legal status. According to exit polls, Mr. Bush drew about 40 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2004 — a record for a Republican presidential candidate.

But just one current Republican contender, John McCain, offers anything but lock-step allegiance to the enforcement-only approach now. In a poll late last year by the Pew Hispanic Center, only 23 percent of Latinos identified themselves as Republicans, down from 28 percent in 2006. Hispanics who identified themselves as Democrats surged from 49 percent to 57 percent.

The Latino voters’ group expects Hispanics to account for 11 percent of the vote in Nevada, a state that Mr. Bush — with 39 percent of the Hispanic vote — won by a mere 2.6 percentage points in 2004.

It is of utmost importance that the government deal promptly with the flurry of new citizenship applicants. Mr. Bush has agreed to a proposal from Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York, to do just that. Still, immigration authorities expect waits of 18 months, which would prevent many applicants from becoming citizens in time for the November election.

The citizenship and voter registration drive in immigrant communities should be celebrated by both parties.

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The Nevada caucuses today will be the first test of the mood of immigrant voters since comprehensive immigration reform was killed.

Wonder what they thought of Romney's win?

It is of utmost importance that the government deal promptly with the flurry of new citizenship applicants. Mr. Bush has agreed to a proposal from Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York, to do just that. Still, immigration authorities expect waits of 18 months, which would prevent many applicants from becoming citizens in time for the November election.

IF these people qualify for citizenship, and were not intelligent enough to plan early so they could vote in this election, they do not deserve the vote. It is no different than my poor daughter, who will turn 18 less than a week AFTER the November election. She will not be able to vote either. I don't see any rush to make allowances for American citizens to hurry up their waiting time, why should immigrants be any different. We all have a waiting period, for the immigrants it is only 18 months, for the naturally born citizens it is 18 years.




I am in no way endorsing changing the current voting age or laws. This was only brought up to show what a short wait the immigrants actually have, and that they at least had the option to plan ahead and file earlier.

Hispanic voters in states like nevada are exaggerated since they include illegals as percentage of hispanics as a whole.This is a scare and racist tactic as "any vote against illegal immigration amnesty will have every latino and legal immigrant of any stripe chomping at the bit to vote out any anti-amnesty canidate or incumbant".Someone should remind them that it is illegal for non citizens to vote.I wonder how many illegal aliens will caucus and cancel out and commit fraud against us citizens.There was an american official a little ways back caught giving false documents to russians and baltic country citizens.You did not hear the media say that all whites would run out and vote against anyone enforcing immigration laws againt white illegal immigrants.The media must figure that latinos are so racist that any one arrested for any crime that looks like them or speaks spanish will suffer backlash from LA RAZA (the race) not only the racist organization but all latinos.Spanish is originally a european language of the spanish who took over land that is now mexico and south america from redskined indians.Mexico had only been a country for less than 12 years when the texans declared independance in 1836- The leader of mexico wanted immigrants for the vast spaces of land in what is now texas to collect taxes.Americans wer invited to come if they converted and were willing to become catholic.The dicatator of mexico demanded taxes and nothing in return to the now populated (mostly white) state of texas.The texans white and hispanic rebelled and declared independance and with the murder of many americans the us government forces came to the aid of its citizens which the majority of texas was made up of.After the war was over the mexican government sold the US vast hot and at the time waste land (remeber the was not airconditioning,etc) of what is now arizona,utah,part of calf, new mexico .At the time it seemed that it was a joke on the United States (READ TRANSCRPITS ETC OF THE TIME PERIOD) to buy a worthless hot box.Now we know the claims and probably lack of knowledge of history on the part of groups claiming US stole this land.

Another so-called EDITORIAL where the author fails to credit his/her name with the opinion. For all we know this editorial could have been written by a citizen, an elected official, a member of a foreign consulate, etc.

Newspapers won't print 'Letters to the Editor' from anonymous or unsigned sources

Families have been torn apart as illegal immigrants have been deported, leaving their citizen children behind.

This is called child abandoment.

No government can help the destinies of people who insist in putting sectional and class consciousness ahead of general weal.
Franklin D. Roose

I just don't understand 1.4 million immigrants ?

Do we not have yearly quotas? and are they not designed to
allow equal demographics ?

Or can any illegal just sign up and get a voter card ?

Or can any illegal just sign up and get a voter card ?

I will answer this with my favorite quote:

"You don't have to be a citizen to vote, only registered"

Feinsteins DC office staffer, Ben

this is old, but still applies:

[quote]n 1996, Congress enacted the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, making it a federal crime for non-citizens to vote in any federal election (or state election, unless authorized by state law). As a penalty, ineligible non-citizens who knowingly vote may be deported. Additionally, a non-citizen who falsely claims to be a United States citizen is in violation of this law.

However, there are many documented reports of non-citizen voting,[1] [2] and there is no evidence of prosecution of the aliens for their action. With nearly 19 million foreign-born residents who are not U.S. citizens in the country in the 2000 Census and an estimated 9-11 million illegal residents (many of them not also counted in the Census), the potential is enormous for non-citizens to affect the outcome of elections.

Charges were made in at least three federal elections in California [3] [4] and twice in Florida[5] that voting by ineligible aliens may have determined the outcome of the election. For instance:

* In Florida, election observers say a “sizable numberâ€

Just more evidence that we need to implement proof of citizenship for this election ASAP.

Originally Posted by TexasCowgirl

Just more evidence that we need to implement proof of citizenship for this election ASAP.

I am actually embarrassed that you don't need proof. I think you need to provide a couple of kinds of proof.

When registering, either a certified copy of birth cert AND a state issued photo ID, plus ss card or US Passport and ss card. If you are a married woman, I think also copies of anything that changed your name ie marriage license, divorce docs ect.

registration should be cut off with ample time to verify through everify all info, and give one or two weeks to correct errors.

At the polls:

Government issued photo ID