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    President Trump: Tell the feds to stop helping illegal aliens commit identity theft

    BY RONALD MORTENSEN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 04/03/17 04:00 PM EDT

    Under President Obama, the Internal Revenue Service and Social Security Administration helped illegal aliens to steal Social Security numbers and engage in identity theft. That practice hurt adults, children, and even the unborn, who sometimes receive identities that have already been stolen.

    As President Trump mulls how best to construct a wall in years ahead, he should realize that he could make an immediate difference by ending this failed policy of his predecessor.

    While advocates of illegal immigration would have us believe that it is a victimless crime, most people fail to realize that illegal aliens regularly victimize American citizens by stealing Social Security Numbers in order to file fraudulent tax returns. It is widely acknowledged that the vast majority of illegal aliens routinely purchase SSNs from fraudulent document dealers. In most cases, dealers simply print fake Social Security cards that contain a purchaser’s name paired with a fabricated SSN.

    Since roughly 50 percent of SSNs have been issued by the Social Security Administration (about 453 million to date), there is a 50-50 chance that a made up SSN belongs to an American citizen or legal resident. In some cases, dealers use the stolen SSNs of American citizens and legal residents.

    Illegal aliens generally prefer SSNs that have not yet been legally issued or, failing that, the SSNs that belong to American children since these numbers can be used for years without anyone knowing it – except the IRS and the Social Security Administration.

    However, the Social Security Administration does not remove unassigned SSNs used by illegal immigrants from its database. That means the numbers are eventually assigned to newborn, American infants. Neither the Social Security Administration nor the IRS notifies American citizens when their or their children’s SSNs are used by others. In other words, the federal government has facilitated identity theft and protected the identity thieves.

    This protection has extended to state and local law enforcement officials as well, including former Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank who was caught justifying and laughing about the theft, despite the fact that their victims, including an estimated 80,000 Utah children, suffer serious harm.

    According to a press release issued by the Utah Attorney General’s Office concerning a crime spree involving illegal aliens and identities stolen from victims under the age of 12, “Identity thieves are no respecters of age. They will steal your children's ID, ruin their credit and hurt them in ways never thought possible before they can graduate from grade school. Children are vulnerable even if parents do everything right."

    At the federal level, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that the use of stolen SSNs for employment purposes and to pay taxes “is not the normal identity theft situation.”

    Some government agencies even create fraudulent SSNs for illegal aliens so they can obtain government benefits that they are not eligible to receive. For example, a Utah Medicaid official defended the practice of state authorized workers creating fake SSNs so illegal aliens could enroll in the "Baby Your Baby" program, even though many of the randomly created SSNs could and did match the Social Security numbers of people in Maine and New Hampshire—including the SSN of a deputy Police Chief.

    Despite what the advocates of illegal aliens say and the stance taken by government officials, illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. When an illegal alien uses another person’s SSN, the victim’s credit rating can be destroyed. The illegal alien’s criminal records will attach to the victim’s SSN which creates serious problems whenever an entity runs a background check on the victim. The illegal alien’s wages will be attributed to the victim’s SSN as will unpaid tax liabilities on those earnings. The IRS may then go after the victim for the payment of back taxes on income that the victim didn’t receive.

    Victims may also be denied means-tested benefits such as Medicaid or student financial aid because of the illegal alien’s earnings, which are credited to the SSN. In addition, the victim’s medical records may be compromised with life threatening consequences. It is a long, drawn-out process to clear one’s name.

    President Trump should demand that the SSA and the IRS stop facilitating identity theft, and he should demand that Koskinen resign from the IRS if he is unwilling to do so. Those actions would contribute immediately towards "draining the swamp" in Washington.

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    President Trump should demand that the SSA and the IRS stop facilitating identity theft, and he should demand that Koskinen resign from the IRS if he is unwilling to do so. Those actions would contribute immediately towards "draining the swamp" in Washington.
    Amen to that!
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    A triple Amen to that.

    There are a lot of ways our government(s) - local to Washington - could fix that now, and could have prevented it decades ago.

    We have to conclude from this information our government is working against us - openly and truly. It's not just a matter of pulling back and letting it happen - they know and are protecting it.

    Just a notion, but I'm thinking if they actually checked, they would find illegals are getting benefits under several different names.

    This is something President Trump could do now - take 5 minutes and get it started.

    I do know he and his people have a lot of stuff to do and they are still working against the same groups who fought him during the election, but I am little concerned about his priorities.

    This could be worked on NOW - troops could be on the border NOW. The wall will have to have personnel - those we have NOW. Employers could be warned NOW to get rid of illegal employees IF e-verify works, it seems it is just used for new hires. That helps some, but ALL employees need to be checked.

    If they forced all employees to be checked, I'd be willing to bet the IRS would prosecute someone who hadn't changed their name since a marriage, etc. They will pick someone whose 'crime' is simply an oversight and call the media. The media they would rant and rave about how all this checking hurts innocent people.

    This is how our government/media (one and the same) has been doing thins for about 50 years now.

    It is rotten to the core -

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    We need to pass the FairTax and abolish the IRS. The IRS is not for the USA. The IRS was invented by Democrats to destroy the USA with mandates that invade our privacy, restrict our business and trade, that generate poverty, that redistributes wealth against our will, that promotes globalism, makes Americans fearful and uneasy, steals their money, steals their properties, and in general makes life in the USA hell. The Democrats love their income tax, it's the heart and soul of the Socialist/Communist/Globalist Agenda and the key to all oligarchs.

    How Americans don't see that, just means too many are too new to the country to understand the way it's supposed to be in our Little Land of Liberty. What is most fascinating to me about this whole debate is how many so-called "Constitutionalists" support the income tax which was expressly forbidden by the US Constitution.
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    In order to fix it, we need to change many things in this country - AND - in ourselves.

    The one thing we need to do right now is be honest with ourselves and admit, once and for all, there is NO two party system. There is no Republican Party and no Democrat Party. There is one group of people whose aim is the same - - to gather wealth and power unto themselves and to rule, and ultimately destroy the idea of freedom.

    The Republican side hasn't been quite as frenzied as the Democrat side, but they have been just as obstructive, recalcitrant, and determined to stop anything voted for by the American people.

    Illegal immigration, destroying our education system, privatizing our government, countless wars, outsourcing, H1B workers - all things the Republican side has supported, publicly.

    These people have had a grip on the American people for years by pretending there is a difference. All you have to do is look back through the history of the last 50 years and see they have been working in tandem, to bring us to this precipice. Then think back through this election cycle.

    The people in Washington, no matter the color of their jersey, are working against us. They saw the will of the people and it matters not to them.

    How much more proof do we need?
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    Exactly, nntrixie. Our Republican Party has lost its way on many issues and needs its own Fix-It.
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    Exactly, nntrixie. Our Republican Party has lost its way on many issues and needs its own Fix-It.
    Actually, it has ceased to exist - it hasn't for a very long time.

    I think there was a chance for a come back when the Tea Party came forward. It didn't take long for those who call them Republicans to infiltrate and take over the Tea Party and enfold it.
    It was sad as I had great hopes for it.
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    I know, but I love the history and accomplishments of the Real Republican Party so much, I'll stay in and hope it gets fixed. It's up to US to do it. Trump wants to fix it and maybe with our help he can. When he talks about the SWAMP, he's not just talking about the DemoQuacks, he's talking about the Two-Party One Party. "You go there on this one, we'll go there on that one, and gridlock the whole mess." That's what he have in DC.

    Take the Supreme Court, why should a Supreme Court Justice need 60 votes in the Senate instead of a simple majority? The Constitution requires a simple majority. They did that for Gridlock, Planned Gridlock. We elect Presidents and members of Congress, Governors and State Legislators, and everyone else in the government on simple majority. Some states have a run-off when it's close and there's more than 2 candidates, but no one is required to win 60% of the vote, why would a US Supreme Court Justice?

    Get rid of the Planned Gridlock Rule altogether. You want your platforms to win, then you better win the elections, not lose the elections and still control our government. This was a stupid rule that is largely responsible for the status quo. I think Senator Byrd was responsible for this, well, his KKK voting system needs to be thrown out of the US Senate.
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    Well, I still have to have some hope for the Republicans - not the ilk of the Bushes, McCains, Grahams, etc., but hope there are some who do hold the old values and will try to uphold it.
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