Thread: Prisoners Signing Up For Obamacare Pad Obama’s Numbers

Prisoners Signing Up For Obamacare Pad Obama’s Numbers

Even though The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) specifically excludes prisoners from being enrolled in Obamacare, six states are
using a loophole in the law to do just that so that the actual numbers of those on Obamacare are inflated.

How it works is very simple: those inmates are enrolled at the time they are arrested and booked into their county jail awaiting trial.

Doing it this way saves the county, like Obama’s financially strapped Cook County in Chicago, the medical costs it would normally have to pay for any inmate awaiting trial because they are being held without bond or cannot afford to post bond. This allows Cook County to have the US government pay for any and all treatment these inmates receive while waiting for trial, saving that county potentially millions of dollars in medical costs, and it is all perfectly legal.

Every year, 13 million Americans are booked into county jails, which is a ready made source of enrollees for Obamacare, allowing the president to gloat over the numbers of how many people are being enrolled (or at least quiet his critics about the failing numbers of his signature program.) Six states have already discovered this loophole and are exploiting it for all they can get, and it could cost this country trillions of dollars over and above the $2 trillion figure that the Congressional Budget Office recently said Obamacare will cost over the next ten years.

In San Francisco, Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi asked the Board of Supervisors for permission to sign up inmates for Obamacare as soon as they’re fingerprinted and processed. His office estimates that the city will save on average $2,500 for each inmate it enrolls. In Portland, Oregon, county commissioner have already applied for Medicaid for 700 inmates, targeting the sickest and most likely to consume county resources when they seek medical care. The estimated $1 million in savings from an annual health care bill of $15.7 million doesn’t even include a potentially larger windfall from billing Medicaid for inmates’ hospital treatments. By putting the inmates into Obamacare and on Medicaid before they are convicted, once they are convicted, the states can then bill Medicaid and our government for any treatments they receive while the inmates are in prison.

And to top it all off, doing this will allow the prison system to release those inmates early so that they can take advantage of addiction counseling and psychiatric care after their release. Everyone should be happy, it seems: city, county, and state governments can make the federal government pay for the medical care of their prison populations; they can release prisoners early so that they can get addiction and psychiatric care under Obamacare; the inmates don’t have to pay for their Obamacare; and lastly, Obama gets the raw numbers he needs to say that Obamacare has succeeded.

However, some are not happy with this unintended consequence of Obamacare…

‘We just found out that Obamacare is going to cost $2 trillion over 10 years,’ an aide to a Republican senator, who requested anonymity, told MailOnline on Thursday. ‘Now we’re going to have local governments picking our pockets to pay for their jail inmates? What a disgrace.’

‘It makes you wonder,’ the Senate staffer said, ‘when the president gets excited about enrolling a few million people: How many of them are criminals?’

How many indeed should be the question on every American’s mind for a president who lied repeatedly to this country about the true costs of this program, about how every insured American would be able to keep their coverage if they liked it, about the safety of the Obamacare website, and about how much Obamacare was going to cost the taxpayers in the long run.

For those who have not paid attention, Obamacare is being to look like a Chicago-style ponzi scheme of epic proportions that not only has Americans giving their personal information to the criminals employed by Obamacare as facilitators or “Navigators”, but it now has been revealed that the medical care these criminals will be receiving will also be paid for by Americans as well.

What is Obama going to do when he has to explain that the millions enrolling are in fact criminals and won’t be paying for their Obamacare, and that the nation as a whole will be on the hook for that care for the rest of their lives?

Probably that he will have to raise our taxes to pay for it all…

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Taxpayers hit for MILLIONS as six states put inmates on Obamacare plans (which also boosts enrollment numbers)

• Obamacare is fast becoming a tool to save counties money that they would otherwise spend on health care for inmates who have not yet been convicted of crimes
• The Affordable Care Act excludes convicts, but opens a loophole for jail officials who want to avoid using their own budgets to help sick prisoners awaiting trial
• Taxpayers in all 50 states will cover the costs for county governments as Obamacare's expenses spiral upward
• Obamacare's enrollment statistics will also increase artificially as inmates are enrolled as soon as they are booked and fingerprinted

By DAVID MARTOSKO, U.S. POLITICAL EDITOR

6 February 2014 February 2014

Cash-strapped counties in six states are enrolling inmates in Obamacare health insurance plans as a way to shift costs to the federal government – a tactic that's legal but frustrating for some Republicans who don't want to see the success levels of President Obama's signature law inflated artificially.

In many cases jails are registering inmates so they'll be better equipped to access addiction counseling and psychiatric care after their release, lowering the likelihood that they'll return for more time behind bars.

The Affordable Care Act prohibits the enrollment of full-time prisoners serving sentences, but many prisoners awaiting trial in prison jumpsuits are being enrolled purely to save county governments money – and shift costs to the feds – when they lengthy hospital stays are required.

Obamacare is fast becoming a tool to save counties money that they would otherwise spend on health care for inmates who have not yet been convicted of crimes

The law specifically excludes people who are 'incarcerated, other than incarceration pending the disposition of charges' – legal language referring to the two-thirds of county jail inmates who have been denied bail or can't afford to post a bond to gain release before trial.

'This provision,' says Correctional Risk, Inc., a criminal justice consultancy, 'will likely allow eligible inmates who are pending disposition of charges to enroll in a health insurance plan through their state insurance exchange prior to conviction.'

Not everyone thinks this is a good thing, particularly congressional Republicans who want to see the Obamacare law's net cost to he federal government go down, not up.

'We just found out that Obamacare is going to cost $2 trillion over 10 years,' an aide to a Republican senator, who requested anonymity, told MailOnline on Thursday. 'Now we're going to have local governments picking our pockets to pay for their jail inmates? What a disgrace.'

'It makes you wonder,' the Senate staffer said, 'when the president gets excited about enrolling a few million people: How many of them are criminals?'

Obamacare excludes convicts, but opens a loophole for officials who want to avoid using their own budgets to help sick prisoners

The $2 trillion figure came from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which issued a report Tuesday covering the economic impacts of the law.

Bloomberg reports that nearly 7 million people were incarcerated, paroled or serving probation terms in the U.S. at the end of 2012. And every year about 13 million people – one in every 25 Americans – are booked into county jails each year.

On January 28, San Francisco Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi asked the city's Board of Supervisors for permission to sign up inmates for Obamacare as soon as they're fingerprinted and processed. His office estimates that the local government will save $2,500 in the long run for each inmate it enrolls.

That's because emergency room visits and treatment for chronic conditions can pile up when patients are uninsured.

But since most jailed inmates come from socioeconomic conditions that make them more likely to be sick, their entry into the Obamacare system puts them on equal footing with elderly patients who will take more money out of the system than they put in.

Taxpayers in all 50 states will cover the costs for county governments as Obamacare's expenses spiral upward

Even young inmates are as likely to be as sick in the years after their release as older people who have never been in the criminal justice system, according to data from the National institutes of Health.

And the large majority who enroll in Medicaid instead of in private health plans will not contribute any money at all toward health care that taxpayers in all 50 states will have to subsidize.

And that cost-shifting will include some direct medical care for inmates while they're in custody.

In Oregon, Multnomah County Commissioners received a briefing in mid-January learning how much money they could save by putting inmates in Portland and the surrounding communities on Obamacare.

They have already applied for Medicaid for 700 inmates, targeting the sickest and most likely to consume county resources when they seek medical care.

The estimated $1 million savings from an annual health care bill of $15.7 million doesn't even include a potentially larger windfall from billing Medicaid for inmates' hospital treatments.

Obamacare's enrollment statistics will also increase artificially as inmates are enrolled as soon as they are booked and fingerprinted

The Affordable Care Act specifically allows county officials to submit hospital invoices to the federal government when the treatment takes more than 24 hours, but only if the patient is a Medicaid enrollee.

County officials estimate that between 70 and 80 per cent of their inmates are eligible.

Cook County, Illinois has similar numbers. Its officials have already enrolled about 2,000 prisoners.

One former Democratic U.S. senator who debated the Affordable Care Act told Bloomberg that he and his colleagues never intended for Obamacare to cover incarcerated people who are the responsibility of local governments.

'It starts to look a little like a scheme by the states and local jurisdictions to avoid responsibilities that are really theirs,' he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553633/Jails-6-states-inmates-Obamacare-costing-federal-government-millions-boosting-programs-enrollment-numbers.html