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    Profile in Cowardice: Republican Establishment Flees Trump over 2005 Comments

    8 Oct 2016

    In December 2010, I was a guest at a cocktail party in Washington, D.C. for incoming Republican members of the House of Representatives. I had lost my own congressional race in Illinois, but had made enough friends among fellow GOP candidates that they graciously allowed me to join the festivities.

    Inside, there was excited talk about the new Tea Party class, about fixing Washington, about finding places to live in high-rent D.C. And there was also talk about women — that kind of talk.

    Some of the new members, many of whom had spent the day surrounded by young, attractive, ingratiating, dressed-to-the-nines female would-be staffers, wondered aloud how they were going to avoid the temptations of being surrounded every day by such creatures.

    The details do not matter: suffice it to say the language used was not that much better than the newly-surfaced lewd chat that Donald Trump had with Billy Bush on a live mic, eleven long years ago.

    Not every man talks that way about women. But plenty do — in the locker room, on the golf course, and on Capitol Hill. I was once taken aback when one congressman praised my wife’s looks, in rather lurid terms.

    Some of the same Republicans are beating a disgraceful retreat from Trump, acting as if they have never heard such language before.

    Lewd talk is bipartisan. Elections are about choices, and the choice on the Democratic side is not Pope Francis, but the Clintons. Bill not only had oral sex with an intern in the Oval Office, and lied about it, but has faced repeated accusations of sexual assault. Hillary has done her part by attacking Bill’s accusers, calling them “bimbo eruptions.”

    Perhaps the most glaring case of hypocrisy is that of former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. In his bodybuilding days, Schwarzenegger was notorious for — and proud of — his many exploits with women. In his 1977 autobiography, Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder, Schwarzenegger recalled how he had once treated women as “sex objects.” (He said his views had changed.) When he ran for governor, he faced questions about a 1977 interview in which he recalled rough sex with a woman at a California gym: “Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs where we all got together,” he had said.

    As governor, Schwarzenegger not only cheated on his wife, Kennedy scion Maria Shriver, but impregnated the housekeeper.

    Yet on Saturday, The Terminator joined the chorus of critics bashing Trump, telling fellow Republicans that it was their “duty” to “choose your country over your party” when they voted.

    Sen. John McCain, whose own treatment of women was a topic of concern in the 2008 election — dating strippers, alleged affairs, rumors that he used the “c-word” towards his wife — withdrew his support for Trump on Saturday. And 2012 nominee Mitt Romney, who was accused of leading a “war on women” and ridiculed for his statement about “binders full of women,” slammed the Republican nominee (again) for a statement made long before Romney eagerly sought his endorsement in 2012.

    Other Republican leaders are demanding Trump drop out of the race. The Republican National Committee has withdrawn its mailings for Trump. Chuck Todd of NBC News reported Saturday that right now, “it’s every Republican for themselves.”

    They are worried that Trump’s 2005 comments — made when he was a businessman, TV star, and private citizen — will be the next Todd Akin moment, when Republicans let Democrats saddle them with one odd comment about abortion in 2012. Then as now, Republicans compounded the damage by treating a media controversy as a “crisis.”

    It is worth asking whether this panicked mob has the rudimentary courage required to stand up to the Islamic State, or Vladimir Putin, if they cannot bear the pressure of a manufactured “October surprise.”

    If they are willing to lose the country — for that is what may be at stake — over a decade-old joke, they might deserve to lose.

    And if Trump wins regardless, look out: he will have done it on his own.
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    Thank you Joel Pollak! Thank you very very much!! So true, everything you wrote. Donald Trump is a man, an honest man, who likes beautiful women, there is no secret about that, but he also loves and respects all women. He always has and always will. He helps them, invests in them, hires them, promotes them, and treats them the same as he treats a man.

    Take the Miss Piggy incident. She won a competition and signed a contract with a weight clause. She violated that clause and gained too much weight. On the brink of being fired, Trump says lets try and help her lose the weight so she can keep her crown and transfer it to next year's pageant winner. So that's what they do. He never called her Miss Piggy, he called her an eating machine on the Howard Stern Show, promoting the pageant. Apparently the weight loss program worked, she kept her crown, job, benefits and prizes and transferred the crown. This is a perfect example of "Houston we have a problem", and Trump rides in and fixes the problem.

    Take the Rosie O'Donnell feud. She attacked Trump for allowing Miss USA to keep her title and sign up for an alcohol and drug rehab program. Why would she attack him over that? The girl had a serious problem and needed rehab. Trump believed in second chances, Tara Conner, the woman involved, says Trump saved her life. This is another example of "Houston we have a problem", and Trump rides in and fixes the problem.

    There are so many of these stories it would take a book to get them down and then we'd still not have them all. Donald Trump has helped many many people, many of them women in many different ways.

    And if you listen to what he said on the Billy Bus, he never said he groped anyone, he said he kisses them. What he said about the groping was like a musing after someone else said you can do anything, he says yeah, when you're a star and he's thinking of what could be the worse thing, he sas you can grab their Py, and they'll let you do it, and then repeats, what someone else said "you can do anything'. He didn't say he'd done it, he's saying you can do it, they'll let you do it, you can do anything. It's like a musing over a situation.

    Well all he did was take a woman furniture shopping, that was his "big hit", didn't work, he didn't get anywhere, but she started a business with her own furniture line shortly after that, so he knew where the good furniture was, that's for sure, and I've yet to see a photograph of Donald Trump kissing anyone outside of his family or someone he's dating, anywhere except on the cheek or with one of those "air kisses".

    And Donald Trump is probably one of the most press covered photographed men in America and has been for almost 50 years.

    I'm so happy to see the Reasonable People coming out and standing up for Donald Trump. Imagine all these other Rush to Judgers with their fingers on the "nuclear codes" lying to you about why they just started nuclear WWIII, then listening to their explanations when we find out they got it all wrong, what are Hillary's famous lines ..... oh yeah, "it was an honest mistake" and "at this point, what difference does it make"?

    "it was an honest mistake" -- Hillary Clinton

    "at this point, what difference does it make?" -- Hillary Clinton

    I now declare Pussy Gate over. Lets move on to saving our nation, if not the world, from a bunch of GLOBALIST MANIACS and elect Donald Trump who has fixed problems for 50 years instead of caused them, to be the 45th President of the United States of America.


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    First off I am still a Trump supporter and I have heard many men and women say a lot worse than what Trump said. I have been trying to figure out who videos a private conversation between two friends and saves it for over a decade? What would be the reason? That involves the Bushes. The only thing I can come up with is Blackmail. Was this video saved to blackmail Trump by the Bushes do they keep videos of rich and powerful men for their own use? Remember the Clinton and Bush push for NWO? The Clinton and Bushes go way back remember the Contra scandal and the plain that crashed in Arkansas airport full of cocaine? Remember this is the way our government politicians seem to roll these day. Dirty politics.
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    posylady, you raise an interesting question and one that at least 2 people on Fox and Friends asked today, "who saves raw footage for 12 years?" Who does this? And why would they do it? I understand saving programming that aired, but the un-aired raw footage for so many years? Blackmail is as good a reason as any. There is definitely something secret and big behind this. Trump should put his contract lawyers onto this, because I'm sure his contract with NBC would prohibit release of any content related to private moments.
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