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    Senior Member curiouspat's Avatar
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    I'm so new at this situation, that I hadn't seen this before. You probably already have...but maybe there are other newbies out there....

    At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior.

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

    "The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    From Bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage."

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election:

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore=f27 million
    Bush=f43 million

    Square miles of land won by:

    States won by:

    Murder rate per I00,000 residents in counties won by: Gore=f3.2

    Professor Olson adds:
    "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..."
    Olson believes the U.S. is now somewhere between the "complacency" and "apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
    TIME'S UP!
    Why should <u>only</u> AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants, have to obey the law?!

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    I do agree in some points, as far as apathy and complacency.
    Actually, Texas, has in no way been uninformed and untouched by the immigration problem - or apathetic - yet they voted for him anyway, and Texans knew what he was - and was not - maybe not all he was.

    The fact is, the people pulling the strings - the two parties - made sure we had no real choice.

    If we don't do something about the political parties and soon - we are lost.

    However, there is no greater champion and fighter for illegal immigration in WAshinton than Pres. Bush - so the complacency, and apathy extends to all of the US - regardless of where we live.

    As far as illegal immigration, the greatest (in my opinion) danger to America is a totally bi-partisan issue - they BOTH love it.

    Ted Kennedy and Pres. Bush - what a team!!!!!
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