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    Putting ‘illegal’ back into illegal immigration: Doug McIntyre

    By Doug McIntyre, Los Angeles Daily News
    POSTED: 01/28/17, 11:06 AM PST | UPDATED: 5 HRS AGO

    It’s about to get real.

    Last week President Trump lowered the boom on America’s porous borders by signing an Executive Order authorizing construction of a 2,000-mile wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. The President also put hundreds of sanctuary cities on notice that his administration will enforce America’s immigration laws. Cities that refuse to comply risk losing Federal funding for both essential and non-essential services. No place has more skin in this game than Los Angeles, the city that gave birth to sanctuary policies back 1979.

    When then-LAPD chief Darryl Gates issued Special Order 40 – the police directive that prohibits officers from initiating a stop based on suspicion of an immigration violations – L.A. quickly became the place to go for illegal immigrants. Why not? The welcome mat was out.

    As well intentioned as Special Order 40 might have been, the law of unintended consequences kicked in. Crime didn’t drop, it soared.

    But some things did fall.

    Wages for working men and women plunged while graduation rates in LAUSD schools sank to historic lows. What went up is poverty. Way up. According the Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, California is the poverty capital of America, both by percentage of population and in real numbers, with 20.6-percent of California’s 38-plus million residents living below the poverty line. That’s 5.5-percent higher than the national average, approximately 19 million struggling to survive.

    How can this be?

    Progressive, liberal, forward-thinking California has every natural advantage: the world’s greatest climate, abundant natural resources, World Class colleges and universities, Silicon Valley and Hollywood as well as magnificent ports and harbors perfectly positioned on the Pacific Rim to ride the crest of the rising tide of trade with Asia. Yet, somehow, California has more people living in poverty than Mississippi or Alabama or any of those backward, knuckle-dragging, redneck states it’s so fashionable for West Coasters to disparage.

    The why is obvious.

    California has something else those other less-enlightened states don’t have, the nation’s largest population of illegal immigrants.

    Obvious to everyone but our leaders.

    Sanctuary policies encouraged the poorest of the hemisphere’s poor to come to L.A. We effectively imported poverty on a mass scale, overwhelming law enforcement, our schools and the social safety net while forcing our poor to compete with even poorer people for the first rung on the ladder of success. We cheapened labor far beyond the strawberry fields of Oxnard.

    Rather than an honest examination of this complex issue our alleged leaders pandered to an emerging demographic group and demagogued anyone with a dissenting opinion as a racist and xenophobe. And, tragically, the news media drove the getaway car.

    The statutory term “illegal alien” has long been banished followed a few years later by “illegal immigrant”, as if these words are hate speech. To be pro-border enforcement is to be labeled “anti-immigrant”, as if there is no distinction. I’m sure drunk drivers would appreciate the same courtesy from the media.

    With the stroke of his pen President Trump put the “illegal” back into “illegal immigration.” That’s a good first step.

    What will follow is not going to be pretty. We have become addicted to cheap labor and withdrawal from any addiction is not pain free.

    The pushers of open borders will throw the kitchen sink at Trump on this one. The battle lines have been drawn.

    The fight over control of our borders represents a continuation of the eternal American battle between States Rights and Federalism. It’s Jefferson versus Hamilton, John C. Calhoun versus Andrew Jackson, Jefferson Davis versus Abraham Lincoln, Orval Faubus versus Dwight Eisenhower and now Jerry Brown and Eric Garcetti versus Donald Trump.

    There’s a grand irony in all this.

    Had we been allowed to have an honest debate on immigration, with all sides represented, not just the pro-amnesty arguments, had we taken even a few commonsense steps to correct the injustice of rewarding folks for cutting the line, Donald J. Trump would never have been elected president.

    Or likely anything else.

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    If other Presidents, Governors, Mayors, Police Chiefs, State Legislators, Courts and Congress would have done their jobs, there would have been no need for Trump to abandon his wonderful life and run for President of the United States.

    Trump never wanted to be President, he didn't want to leave his business and great life to fix our country. He always wanted someone else to do it. He didn't think he had the "inclination". He would tell people what to do, he would help them to try, he would speak out, stand up, try to make people understand what they needed to do. But no one would do it.

    Most people haven't actually heard his whole announcement speech. Most people only heard the clip of his statement against illegal aliens from Mexico. If you listen to the whole speech, you understand what a sacrifice this was for him, how much he didn't want to do it, but why he had to do it, because after 37 years of trying to get other people to fix the problems, he realized he was the only one who could and would.

    His indictment of all of our politicians and leaders in his Inauguration Speech was to make the point: if you'd done it already, I wouldn't have to be here to do it for you.

    So to all still in office, you need to sit down and wait for orders. Our country is in deep and serious trouble. Every day of the campaign, every minute of his transition, and every second of his Administration proves beyond any doubt that Donald J Trump for whatever reason and a multitude of reasons is in fact the only person in our country who has the common sense, intelligence, loyalty, skill and will to fix our country.

    And that's exactly what he's going to do. It's not going to be easy, and sometimes it's not going to be pretty, but it's going to be right and it's going to be fast. So fasten your seat-belts!!!

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    I would like to know Trump's plan on Visa Overstays.

    No more Student Visas, our classrooms are overcrowded already, put a ban on that too for at least the next 4 years he is in office. Many people who have work Visas have overstayed.

    I hope he announces a 60-day grace period, effective immediately, to sell out, pack up and go back to your home Country. After that, if you are caught, you will be banned for life from coming here. Let's get that self deportation plan going.

    Our generosity and the privilege to come to our Country has been trampled on and we want them all out and this non-sense stopped. We owe these countries nothing!

    What a relief to have at least 10-20 million of them out of here...such a burden that the US taxpayers have been FORCED to pay for along with the repercussions of crime, poverty, murder, gangs, bringing down our quality of life.

    No more people until we get proper vetting, our Visa exit/entry tracking updated and we start deporting the MILLIONS already here. Do not add to this problem bringing more people here!
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    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Visa overstays are high priority deportation with or right behind criminal aliens. Trump stated that numerous times on the campaign trail and in his speeches. To avoid this massive problem in the future, he supports an entry-exit tracking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Visa overstays are high priority deportation with or right behind criminal aliens. IT stated that numerous times on the campaign trail and in his speeches. To avoid this massive problem in the future, he supports an entry-exit tracking system.
    Not doubting him on this, but it does bring to mind is promise to immediately cancel the DACA amnesty program.

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    Let me suggest the use of the phrase "illegal entrants", which I believe more accurately describes who is being talked about.


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    Because they entered legally, but refused to leave on time, they are now illegal aliens because of illegal presence. It's illegal presence that makes you an illegal alien.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Because they entered legally, but refused to leave on time, they are now illegal aliens because of illegal presence. It's illegal presence that makes you an illegal alien.

    I still believe "illegal entrant(s)" is a far better phrase with respect to border jumpers.

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    How so? They are not illegal entrants, they entered legally on visas. Border crossers from Mexico sneaking in without permission would be illegal entrants, but not the visa overstays, seems to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    How so? They are not illegal entrants, they entered legally on visas. Border crossers from Mexico sneaking in without permission would be illegal entrants, but not the visa overstays, seems to me.

    I was referring to border jumpers.


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