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    Going to be a bigger fight than we think

    Know that meeting between Bush, Fox and Martin last year in March?
    March 23,2005 to be exact.
    We've been had folks........
    How can Bush do this and not even TELL the American people about it?

    http://usinfo.state.gov/wh/Archive/2005 ... 28896.html

    If THAT isn't TREASON, WHAT IS??
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    I have a headache can you translate it!

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    Well that explains a lot

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    Yes, I think most are aware of this. We know that the ultimate goal is a North American union. But, we have not been had. We are still fighting tooth and nail and will not retreat.

    Bush had no business making deals with anyone independent of Congress. He needs both Houses to approve of his decisions before he can implement them.

    The U.N. is pushing for this union, so that the developed can help the under developed.

    The problem with Mexico is that they have not progressed past the Treaty of Hildago 160 years ago. They froze themselves in time at that moment and have literally stood still while memorializing the sale of their land in museums and text books. They dwell 160 years in the past which is why their economy is 160 years in the past.

    They see this as their chance to reconquer their land. My question to Mexicans is how would their life have been any better had the southwest U.S. stayed their land. Do they think their government would have invested in infrastructure and industry? Do they think that they would be living as well as they do now if that were Mexico?

    They continue to amaze me how monolithic they are. What one says or thinks all say and think.

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    I have a headache can you translate it!
    You must have the 'shakes'...

    What it basically says is that by 2010,(as per Agenda 21) Canada, the US and Mexico will all be one unit, like the EU. That means no borders, no sovereignity, NO CONSTITUTION. No workers rights, at least not for American workers.

    The meeting was a globalist circle-jerk, with Jorge Arbusto volunteering the American middle-class as the pivot man.

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    The plans are to incorporate Latin America also.

    That's one of the reasons why they're putting so much $$s and effort into the elections down there.

    Venezuela, Cuba etc. are causing them GREAT HEARTBURN, LOL.
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    And then it is going to be with Europe
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    I have to admit I'm tired of concentrating and you know you must study these things word for word......but my initial response was, "Who died and left Bush the right to make any decision like this!!!????!!!!????" And beleive me.....I can out cus a sailor and this was as polite as I could be.

    He friggin just way, way stepped out of bounds!!! I would just as soon pack them up and big business up and send their sorry butts to the most inhospitable spot on Earth and drop their sorry butts there for good, and start over than go with this New World Third World Order crap.

    I am beyond LIVID. It makes perfect sense though. A long well thought out plan. I'm just one of the last fools that held out hope. I am so upset I can't even think. Beyond angry....it was the worst thing I could imagine and they always say you usually make things worse than they ever become. Well.....apparently not this time! This makes me ill......boy if there's someone who can tell me there's really hope...please do so.......coz right now it's tough to find a reason to wake up tomorrow. (not suicidal) It's just got me so mad as to why bother about anything. I take my make-up mirror and hair dryer camping......a survivalist I'm not. I do pretty good but even I have limits. Beam me up Scotty this world is insane.
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    My question to Mexicans is how would their life have been any better had the southwest U.S. stayed their land. Do they think their government would have invested in infrastructure and industry? Do they think that they would be living as well as they do now if that were Mexico?
    Great question!! And every time the organizers of these rallies are interviewed on tv, I wish that question was posed to them.

    I feel betrayed everyday by my own government. Anger is not the word!!

    Grrrrrrrrr!!!

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    Bush had no business making deals with anyone independent of Congress. He needs both Houses to approve of his decisions before he can implement them.
    To be accurate:

    1. bush didn't make any deal - the deals/plans have been in the works for decades.

    2. bush 1 & clinton moved the first of the agreements {NAFTA}

    3. bush 2 finished CAFTA

    4. *** Congress - both houses - PASSED THEM INTO LAW

    FTAA can't get going full steam unless

    1. these ILLEGALS are firmly planted in USA soil
    2. THIS BILL PASSES w/all the dangerous amendments

    {that's what these amendments are for}
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