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    Mail the Catholic Church

    Heres a copy of an email I sent to the Catholic Church. I think all catholics and Lutherans should get involved and tell their churches to stop supporting open borders and illegal immigration.

    I hope I have the right department for some questions regarding the catholic church on ILLEGAL immigration. First why is it the church is defending ILLEGAL immigration? There are laws in the United States and if you are not familiar with the punishment of coming into the United States ILLEGALLY its many years in prison. That is a law of this country. I like many people support LEGAL immigration. Illegal immigration has closed more than 60 L.A. hospitals due to finacial burden of unpaid bills. Illegal immigration has cost the American legal taxpayers in the Billions for education of their children. The counterfit of Social Security cards, Idenity theft etc. If you support this put your money were your mouth is and begin writing checks to the hospitals that are overwhelmed.Write some hefty checks to the schools for schooling the children of Illegals. And maybe you would like to give up your personal info for some illegal immigrant to work on. Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. The Legal American should come FIRST in their own country period. If you wish to talk about the HUMAN FACTOR in this the families broke up during Swifts raids also talk about the average middle income American worker that has trouble making ends meet due to Illegal immigration. Illegals depress wages that is FACT. Yes there are SOME jobs Americans will not due. But the construction industry for example has seen its wages depressed while Illegals working in this industry has increased. Maybe the Catholic Church would like to pay these American people and their families for being laidoff or not getting a job in the industry. The employer will always pick cheap labor for a higher profit margin. This is simple and just plain logical. I realize these people are poor but at what expense to the American people should we pay.
    Also the Church has been critical about the building of a fence on our border. Some questions. We know that most of the illegals coming into this country are Mexican and also Catholic. If they were Muslim would you support open borders? Is the church aware of how much illegal drugs come over the mexican border every year? Not to mention the terrorist that will be entering this country through that or the Northern border if they are not secure.The catholic church is very hipocritcal on this because there is a border wall around the vatican.Again YOUR CHURCH IS BEING CRITICAL OF WALL OR FENCE ON OUR BORDER BUT HAS ONE AROUND THE VATICAN!!! Tear down that wall before you become critical of the one this country is building.The bottom line is we do not live in a perfect world. Many of the illegals comming here do not support America but are just here for the work nothing more. So please tell the bishops and cardinals before they make stupid comments please get the facts and stop trying to push this country into the ground.
    I have included 2 pictures: one of the wall at the vatican (REMEMBER ITS NOT OK FOR THE US TO HAVE SECURITY JUST THE VATICAN) and the other is just a reminder of what these people are here for. Its of a Mexican flag above a upside down US flag hung in Maywood CA. Thanks again Doug R. (Former Catholic) (AT WHAT PRICE DOES THE US CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE PEOPLE?-- WE SHOULD COME FIRST IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!!!)

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    WOW good letter. If I ever got to ask the Pope a question, Why no wall would be it?

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    Welcome Firemanstud.

    Great letter.


    NumberUSA also has a free fax to send to the Catholic church in addition to writing as well.

    www.Numbers.com/
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    Internet Office of the Holy See Vatican City.

    Address one to the Pope

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    ShockedinCalifornia posted this last month. WHAT WOULD THE POPE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL THE OTHER WALL GOING UP AROUND THE WORLD AS WE SPEAK?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    A world of walls



    By GWYNNE DYER
    Feb 18 2007


    If good fences make good neighbours, then the world is experiencing an unprecedented outbreak of neighbourliness.

    They used to wall cities. Now they wall whole countries.

    India is well on the way to being walled (except along the Himalayas, where the mountains do the job for free). The barrier along its 3,000-kilometre border with Pakistan is largely complete except in the parts of Kashmir, where the steep and broken terrain precludes the construction of the usual two-row, three-metre-high fence, with concertina wire and mines between the two fences. India is now building an even longer barrier to halt illegal immigration from Bangladesh.

    However, the fence Beijing is building along its own frontier with North Korea is a precautionary measure to stop a wave of refugees from entering China if the regime in Pyongyang collapses.

    The majority of the new walls springing up around the world are there to stop either terrorist attacks or illegal immigration, but sometimes they also serve as a unilateral way of defining a country’s desired borders.

    That is certainly true of the 2,700 kilometres of high sand or stone berms, backed by wire fences, mines, radar, troop bunkers and artillery bases, that seal off Western Sahara, annexed by Morocco in 1975, from the camps in Algeria from which many of the former inhabitants waged a guerilla war until the 1991 ceasefire.

    It is equally true of the wall Israel is building through the occupied West Bank. The country has long had heavily mined and monitored barrier fences along its external frontiers with Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon and around the Gaza Strip, but the wall in the West Bank does not follow the ceasefire line of 1967. Instead it penetrates deep into the Palestinian territories at a number of points to leave Jewish settlement blocs on the Israeli side, and it cuts off (Arab) East Jerusalem from the West Bank entirely.

    Pakistan is building a fence with Afghanistan, Uzbekistan has built a fence along its border with Tadzjikistan, the United Arab Emirates is erecting a barrier along its frontier with Oman, and Kuwait is upgrading its existing wall along the Iraqi frontier.

    But the most impressive barriers are certainly around Saudi Arabia.

    The Saudi kingdom has been quietly pursuing an $8.5-billion project to fence off the full length of its porous border with Yemen for some years, but the highest priority now is to get a high-tech barrier built along the 900-kilometre border with Iraq.

    “If and when Iraq fragments, there’s going to be a lot of people heading south,” said Nawaf Obaid, head of the Saudi National Security Assessment Project, “and that is when we have to be prepared.”

    The new wall will include buried movement sensors, ultraviolet night-vision cameras, face-recognition software and probably automated weapons in addition to the usual electrified fences, concertina wire, dry moats and mines.

    By comparison, the apparently endless debate about building a relatively low-tech fence along the U.S. border with Mexico to cut illegal immigration seems like an echo from an innocent past.

    The European Union’s feeble gestures towards curbing illegal immigration from Africa (fences around the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla on the Moroccan coast, naval patrols off the Canary Islands) seem merely pathetic. But these are probably the last of the Good Old Days, at least in Europe.

    The reason the United States is incapable of controlling its Mexican border is political: Powerful domestic lobbies work to ensure a steady supply of “undocumented” Mexican workers who will accept very low wages because they are in the United States illegally. President George W. Bush has now been authorised by Congress to build a fence along the Mexican border, but he will stall as long as he can while experimenting with a so-called “virtual fence.”

    No equivalent lobby operates in the European Union, and it is only a matter of time before really serious barriers appear on the EU’s land frontiers, especially with Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Turkey. The walls are going up all over the world, and most of them will not come down for a long time, if ever.
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    It just seems so stupid. I have to agree with Glenn Beck on CNN. Stop the water. After we stop the leaks then we can talk about the water damage. Secure the border and then we can talk about what to do with millions of illegals here. I just dont understand. We pick a war in Iraq to fight terror, we strip search people at the airports but we have open borders to terrorists. We spend millions to fight drugs when we have most of the drugs coming right over our southern border. When did this happen? When did our elected officials listen to big business before the American people? And how much longer are the American citizens going to just shrug it off? It seems like Americans just wait until it effects them and then many times ITS TOO LATE!!! I as a younger guy being 25 see people more from my generation that either support the illegals or just dont give a damn. Its unbelievable. Everything is upside down. A country is defined by its borders. If being illegal means nothing in this country then does that make everyone a citizen in the whole world? And all you need to do anymore is call someone or some group a racists and you can get whatever you want? Its stupid. We live in a world that now has to be so politically correct that even to be called a racist when you are not is enough to give in and give the other side what they want even if its wrong.

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    Firemanstud wrote:


    If being illegal means nothing in this country then does that make everyone a citizen in the whole world?

    No, this dribble they say to get sympathy is enough to make you sick. Nobody has free pass to wander the earth!!!!! Every country has laws, boundaries!

    I'm not for one world government! It's called COMMUNISM!!!


    PS. I don't know if you signed our Boycott petition against Bank of America yet so I'll leave the link. It's on our homepage too.

    http://www.bankofamericaboycott.com/


    You can also find list of banks who take the phony Mexican Matricular Consular card and who doesn't. Pass it on to your friends and family the more the better
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    firemanstud,

    It doesn't make sense. Everything does seem turned upside down and out of control. Well, it is. It is because the Bush adminstration has failed to enforce our laws. Now we have one hell of a mess to clean up.

    We can not allow our politicians to continue fixing the immigration problem the way they have in the past. That being the Ted Kennedy way.

    We must demand enforcement and no anmnesty or guest worker program. That's status quo. We must demand tough hard change and nothing less or we will be doing this all over again, in a few years.

    This problem has never gone away or been resolved because they have never truely closed the border and conducted heavy enforcement.

    We have some work ahead of us.

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    firemanstud:

    Welcome aboard!


    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    It doesn't make sense. Everything does seem turned upside down and out of control
    ...just read my signature line...
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