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    Rick Perry: 'It's a Promise' Texas Will Stand Against BLM

    Rick Perry: 'It's a Promise' Texas Will Stand Against BLM


    Wednesday, 23 Apr 2014 08:12 PM
    By Greg Richter

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry says his state's Attorney General Greg Abbott wasn't making a dare against the federal government over a land rights dispute; it was a promise.

    "He is on the right side of this issue, not just for the people of the State of Texas, he's on the right side of this issue from the private property rights standpoint," Perry said Wednesday on Fox News Channel's "Your World with Neil Cavuto."

    "I don't think Americans want to see another one of these exhibitions from the federal government of them coming in with armed troops over an issue that ought to be taken care of with a little common sense," Perry told guest host Stuart Varney.

    "I am about ready to go to the Red River and raise a 'Come and Take It' flag to tell the feds to stay out of Texas," Brietbart Texas reported Abbott as saying.

    Abbott wrote a letter to Bureau of Land Management Director Neil Kornze about his concerns that the agency is trying to take 90,000 acres of land along the Red River from private citizens who have owned it for years.

    "At a minimum they are overreaching, trying to grab land that belongs to Texans. Or worse, they are violating due process rights by just claiming that this land suddenly belongs to the federal government," Abbott said Wednesday on Fox News Channel's "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren."

    The action stems from a dispute between Texas and Oklahoma over the two states' common border. According to the Louisiana Purchase in 1803, the Red River is the border between them, but as the river's course changes so does the border.

    Numerous lawsuits between the states and the federal government have arisen over the years, and the BLM wants to solve the issue by federalizing the land, Texas officials say.

    "We don't have a clue why their trying to claim it, what basis they have to claim it on," Abbott told Fox News.

    But the BLM issued a statement saying it "is categorically not expanding federal holdings along the Red River," Fox News reported.

    Abbott said if that is true he's happy, but he added that it contradicts other statemenst the BLM has made.

    Ken Aderholt told Van Susteren that the agency is trying to take 500-600 acres of his 1,800-acre cattle ranch. He said the federal government owns the river and the sandy areas near its banks. But he said the local BLM office told him it wants part of his land that is far from the river's banks.

    Perry told Fox News he has no problem with Abbott's words.

    "Actually, it's not a dare. It's a promise that we're going to stand up for private property rights in the State of Texas," he said.

    The federal government already owns too much land and needs to be talking about how they can divest themselves of huge landholdings "rather than coming in and taking over private property."

    The federal government owns large portions of many Western states. It owns more than 80 percent of the land in Nevada, where supporters of rancher Cliven Bundy recently forced a retreat by BLM agents attempting to seize Bundy's cattle. He has refused to pay grazing fees for two decades.

    Nevada Sen. Harry Reid has said the Bundy situation is not over, and called the rancher's supporters "domestic terrorists."

    "I would suggest Sen. Reid spend a little more time in Nevada and get out of Washington, D.C., and to visit with those people that he is disparaging," Perry told Fox News. Reid's words, he added, are "not something you would want a leader in this country saying about the citizens of this country."

    Some of Bundy's supporters had weapons, and Varney asked if Perry supports people taking up arms against the government.

    "I have a problem with the federal government putting citizens in the position of having to feel like they have to use force to deal with their own government," Perry responded.

    "That's the bigger issue."

    Abbott told Fox News that the border issue supposedly was settled in the mid-1990s. If the federal government tries to take private land from Texans, he said, the state will meet them in court.



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    More: Texas Rick Perry Rick Perry Dismisses Question About Nevada Rancher's Racist Remarks

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    Apr. 24, 2014, 10:13 AM



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    In an interview with CBS This Morning Thursday, Texas Governor Rick Perry discussed the situation at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada and racist comments made by the man at the center of the recent standoff there, rancher Cliven Bundy. Perry said Bundy's remarks were a "side issue" and pointed to a land dispute in Texas with the same federal agency Bundy battled in Nevada, the Bureau of Land Management. "I don’t know what he said but the fact is Cliven Bundy is a side issue here compared to what we’re looking at in the state of Texas," Perry said. "He is an individual—deal with his issues as you may. What we have in the state of Texas, I don’t get distracted about, is the federal government is coming in and attempting, from our perspective, to take over private property. And you must—f this country’s to stay the land of freedom and liberty, private property rights must be respected."
    In an interview with the New York Times published Thursday, Bundy claimed blacks would be "better off as slaves." CBS This Morning co-anchor Norah O'Donnell had asked Perry for his thoughts on Bundy's "very inflammatory racial comments."

    Update (2:41 p.m.): In an email to Business Insider, Perry's spokesman Felix Browne said the Governor has now read Bundy's remarks and thinks they are "reprehensible."
    "He hadn’t yet read them at the time at the time of the interview," Browne said. "He has now had a chance to read Bundy’s comments and he thinks they are reprehensible and disagrees with them in the strongest possible way."

    Earlier in his appearance on CBS This Morning, Perry more generally discussed Bundy's standoff with BLM officials that attempted to round up his cattle after he refused to pay fees for grazing on federal land.
    "I think Cliven Bundy is a side story. The federal government and how the federal government deals with these issues of private citizens, whether it’s on the public lands or whether, in the state of Texas we have a big issue about whether this is private land or this is public land. And rather than sending armed troops, I don’t think that is the way that the government should be handling any of these things with its own citizens," said Perry. "We saw a huge debacle in Waco, Texas back a decade plus ago with how they dealt with that issue. I hope our government officials are very, very wise and use common sense when it comes to these issues of conflict within the borders of the United States dealing with something that should be able to do be dealt with in a substantially less-confrontational way."
    In the wake of Bundy's headline-making showdown with the federal government Texas Republicans, including Attorney General Greg Abbott, who is running to succeed Perry when his term ends next year, have raised alarms about what they say is a BLM plan to take 90,000 acres along the Red River.
    Other national conservatives have expressed support for Bundy's cause. On Thursday, two of Bundy's more prominent Republican supporters, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada both issued statements saying they disagreed with his comments.



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    Sounds like Bundy is having a Pelosi moment...I guess it is his right, considering what was done to him, his property and family!!! Hmmmm can Harry say the same????
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    BLM on Texas Land: Not a Land Grab, It’s Already Ours

    Patterson also questions why the BLM suddenly feels the need to manage land they have ignored for decades--if not centuries.


    by Bob Price 25 Apr 2014,

    The U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Oklahoma Field Office responded to Breitbart Texas about the so-called Red River “land grab” by emphasizing that parcels in question are already held in the public domain and BLM-managed. The Bureau claims it is not they who are declaring the ownership but that settled case law long declared it to be government land.

    BLM Public Relations Specialist Paul McGuire agreed to a one-on-one telephone interview with Breitbart Texas after reading the original report published earlier this week. In contrast with the interview with Texas General Land Office Commissioner Jerry Patterson, McGuire expressed much more confidence about the ownership of the land and indicated little, if any, ambiguity about how or why the land should be under federal control.
    “It’s not the BLM making any such claim as to the status of the land,” McGuire said. “That land was a matter that the courts adjudicated decades ago, going back to the 1920s in fact. The Supreme Court settled the matter as to where the public land in the Red River was. So, BLM is really just proceeding on those earlier court decisions.”

    Both McGuire and Patterson agreed about the unique set of political and historical circumstances that led to this situation of confusing and apparently conflicting laws regarding the property ownership and control of land along the Red River boundary between Oklahoma and Texas. However, there is disagreement on a couple of major sticking points.

    Commissioner Patterson believes strongly that, as part of the planning process, a survey project must be completed to determine exactly where the boundaries are located, and, if they have moved, what the cause of the movement was as the cause relates directly to ownership changes. Patterson also questions why the BLM suddenly feels the need to manage land they have ignored for decades--if not centuries.

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    Since the ranchers have deeds and have paid taxes, the BLM is standing on weak precedent. JMO

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