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Timing Is Everything



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By Devvy
5-2-11

Like perhaps a few million others, last night at 9:00 pm CST, Jerry Rivers aka Geraldo Rivera, on FAUX News Network announced the putative president would speak at 10:30 pm EST on a Sunday night. Immediately networks went on "high alert" because no one could remember a president calling a 15-minute press conference on a Sunday night, so it must be important. Speculation swirled about that it had to do with the US killing Mummar Gaddafi's son and three of his grand children. Aren't we a great super power?

But, by 11:00 pm EST, it turned to Osama Bin Laden. He's dead! But, still no Barry Soetoro at the mike. I finally went to bed 30 minutes later. According to news reports, the usurper took to the mic just before midnight EST. How come there was a delay of almost an hour and a half? The press conference is called for 10:30 pm EST. One would think Barry would have had his notes together and ready to go for such a historic statement to the American people. I wonder what last minute details were being finessed?

And, why so late on a Sunday night. Why not this morning? I think it's safe to say that a whole lot of people go to bed earlier on a Sunday night for work the next morning. Perhaps the late night show was so Americans who missed it the night before would get full saturation this morning before they went to work. You know, hip, hip, hurray!

This morning I see celebration in the streets as people rejoice over the death of the "9/11 mastermind". We got him! Obama/Soetoro announced last night an operation took place April 29, 2011, in Pakistan in which Bin Laden was killed. Another CIA creation and former ally of the US taken care of in a country that claims to be our friend, Pakistan. A country that has received tens and tens of millions of dollars stolen from we the people for things like upgrading their energy systems.

The part I like the best is that the body of Bin Laden is then dumped at sea. What? Well, that was after his photograph was taken, of course.

As Ian Henshall wrote this morning:

"Was it really necessary to dump the body at sea? The reason given today on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme was the need to conform with Islamic practice. Sceptics are asking when has the CIA up to now been sensitive to Muslim practices of a speedy burial? Are the obvious suspicions justified: was the body someone else's? Or is the CIA as usual trying to foment off the mark conspiracy theories by acting as if the whole affair is a hoax when it is not?

"What was the role of the Pakistani authorities? Was the raid carried out by Pakistan as reported in the Pakistani press or was the raid a complete surprise because the CIA gave Pakistan no warning as reported on the BBC this morning? Is there a connection with the affair of the CIA contractor Raymond Davis?

"The then British ambassador to Washington Christopher Meyer told BBC listeners this morning that it was several days before they were sure that Al Qaeda carried out the 9/11 attacks. This contradicts the official 9/11 story that US officials knew this straight away, from analysing flight manifests of the apparently hijacked planes.

"These vital manifests have never been released to the public. On the internet self described conspiracy theory debunkers have circulated "leaked" manifests to "prove" the official 9/11 story, but these manifests appear to be faked. Some sceptics suspect the apparently hijacked planes on 9/11 were part of a reluctantly confirmed top secret anti-hijack exercise the Pentagon was running on the morning of the 9/11 attacks.

"How come the world's most wanted man could have been living in a huge, inevitably high profile compound in a Pakistani military city less than an hour's drive from the capital, asked bemused BBC reporters this morning."

A good question.

May I point out a few things?

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." September 13, 2001, President George Bush

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." March 13, 2002, President George Bush

June 18, 2006: FBI says, it has "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e13664.htm

September 11, 2006, I wrote in a column:

"Eric Haney who has stated that Bin Laden was killed in the massive bombing of Tora Bora, Afghanistan on December 15, 2001. I sent e-mail to Haney. He responded in the affirmative that Bin Laden was killed that day. Who is Haney? You can visit his web site: CSM Eric L. Haney, USA (Ret). "For more than twenty years, Command Sergeant Major (retired) Eric L. Haney served in the United States Army's most demanding combat units: As a Combat Infantryman, as a Ranger, and ultimately, as a founding member and eight-year veteran of the Army's super secret counter-terrorist arm, Delta Force." I would venture to guess that Haney has excellent contacts in the military."

Web site: http://www.erichaney.com/

Perhaps that's why Bush told us in March 2002, that Bin Laden wasn't important and not a priority.

According to news reports, DNA was checked. There were many reports Bin Laden was being treated for serious kidney problems in 2001:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO311A.html

Kidney disease is serious and kills a lot of people. Does the CIA have Bin Laden's DNA? After all, they did business with him for a long time. If Bin Laden was on dialysis, could he have lived another ten years roaming around mountains eluding our military? Why would Bin Laden hole up in a compound so easily discovered? Well, perhaps he was just getting careless in his old age.

Bush Administration knew the Whereabouts of Osama
by Michel Chossudovsky
www.globalresearch.ca
16 November 2003
(revised 17 November 2003)

The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO311A.html

"If the CBS report by Dan Rather is accurate and Osama had indeed been admitted to the Pakistani military hospital on September 10, 2001, courtesy of America's ally, he was in all likelihood still in hospital in Rawalpindi on the 11th of September, when the attacks occurred. In all probability, his whereabouts were known to US officials on the morning of September 12, when Secretary of State Colin Powell initiated negotiations with Pakistan, with a view to arresting and extraditing bin Laden.

"A recent Reuters report (11/13/03; scroll down) quoting Labeviere's book "Corridors of Terror" points to alleged "negotiations" between Osama bin Laden and the CIA, which took place two months prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks at the American Hospital in Dubai, UAE, while bin Laden was recovering from a kidney dialysis treatment.

"Enemy Number One in hospital recovering from dialysis treatment "negotiating with CIA"?

"The meeting with the CIA head of station at the American Hospital in Dubai, UAE was confirmed by a report in the French daily newspaper Le Figaro, published in October 2001. (See Alexandra Richard, at http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html"

Pakistan, our friend:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html

"On the morning of September 11, Pakistan's Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" behind the 9-11 hijackers, was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.

"When the news [of the attacks on the World Trade Center] came, the two Florida lawmakers who lead the House and Senate intelligence committees were having breakfast with the head of the Pakistani intelligence service. Rep. Porter Goss, R-Sanibel, Sen. Bob Graham and other members of the House Intelligence Committee were talking about terrorism issues with the Pakistani official when a member of Goss' staff handed a note to Goss, who handed it to Graham. "We were talking about terrorism, specifically terrorism generated from Afghanistan," Graham said."

Chossudovsky is a highly respected writer and researcher.

Do I believe the real Bin Laden was killed during this operation? That would mean I believe a pathological liar like Obama/Soetoro and the CIA. When pigs fly.

The media will spend all day on the Bin Laden story and how the brilliant Obama/Soetoro got the most wanted man in history, but they won't be covering this event today:

9th Circuit will hear eligibility arguments

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293005

By Bob Unruh
© 2011 WorldNetDaily

"Only days after the White House released a copy of Barack Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" from Hawaii, claiming to have put to rest the dispute over his eligibility to hold the office, attorneys will argue on Monday before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that the requirements of the U.S. Constitution simply are too important to ignore for the sake of political expediency, even when they involve a sitting president."

Done with the birth certificate and on to taking high fives for killing Bin Laden. Who cares about some old court proceeding today?

http://www.rense.com/general93/timing.htm

Prove It!

By Jim Kirwan
5-2-11

Sunday Night Obama went on nationwide Television to announce that "Osama bin Laden is Dead." His speech is below, with my comments and other articles interspersed which challenge everything that Obama said. Obama has lied about everything he's done since he took office. He's broken every campaign promise he made prior to getting elected: But since he repeats this series of lies every time he speaks about 911 - it just seemed like a requirement to answer this fool with some of the facts concerning this topic.

O: "Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaida, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children."

k: That is a Lie! There was an attack on 911 but it was not planned or directed from caves in Afghanistan; It was planned and carried out by agents of CIA, Mossad and M I-5, with cover from the FBI, the Pentagon, the White House and the Shadow Government of Dick Cheney who all assisted in the planning and execution of the attacks on 911.

O: "It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory -- hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction."

k: There was no evidence of human-remains in Shanksville, no remains of an aircraft, no engines, nor aircraft parts of any kind were ever found, there was only a scratch in the earth, no evidence of any fire or explosion: The ditch was filled with junk metal that had been dumped in it-there was no evidence of any aircraft or even of a real crash, and of course there was no black-box ever found.

O: "And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child's embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens

k: A nearly identical number of empty chairs and grieving hearts were also present in the aftermath of Pearl Harborthat killed almost the same number of Americans; for yet another LIE. That was on December 7, 1941 to forceAmerica's entry into WWII. 911 was the trigger needed, by the White House; in the words of Project for the New American Century: "America needs another Pearl Harbor."

O: "On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family."

k: What the public was unaware of on 911, and for the most part are still unaware of today; is that on 911 the people of the United States were illegally being SPIED UPON by their own government and that had been going on at that time for seven months-by order of The Decider, George W. Bush.

O: "We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al-Qaida -- an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaida to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies."

k: That is a series of lies that has no foundation whatsoever in fact-and never has, since day one! Al Qaida is a drawer in the CIA that on 9-10-2001 was an agency of the CIA in good standing; there was no "organization" just a list of names. Osama was involved in a number of Black-Ops Operations:

'Al-Qaeda embarked on a trail of attacks, beginning with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that killed six and first raised the specter of Islamist extremism spreading to the United States. Bin Laden was the prime suspect in bombings of US servicemen in Saudi Arabia in 1995 and 1996 as well as attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 that killed 224.

In October 2000, suicide bombers rammed into the USS Cole warship in Yemen, killing 17 sailors, and al-Qaeda was blamed. Disowned by his family and stripped of Saudi citizenship, bin Laden had moved first to Sudan in 1992 and later resurfaced in Afghanistan before the Taliban seized Kabul in 1996.' From Al Jazeera

k: Everything that was blamed on Osama bin Laden, prior to 911 was committed by Mossad and CIA, with the full approval of the government and the Pentagon.

O: "Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al-Qaida safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al-Qaida terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot."

k: Pure unadulterated BS. Bush said 'He can run but he can't hide!' and then he was killed in Bora-Bora on December 13, 2001; but the government chose to keep his death SECRET, so that they could issue the requisite HOAX tapes whenever the public became nervous. It was much the same as now when Obama's popularity is beginning to fall heavily in the polls-like magic 'It's Osama bin Laden to the rescue once again!' The brain-dead public that has no idea of what happened in and to the world, eleven years ago is now enthralled with joy, over something that is just another Obama Lie atop that mountain of such lies that he continues to espouse whenever he is near a microphone.

O: "Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al-Qaida continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world."

k: The Pentagon, the CIA and Mossad are the real-world figures that do the deeds blamed on Osama and while they are assisted by a few local rebels in the countries in which these "attacks" supposedly take place-there is NO INTERNATIONAL "AL Qaida." This entire farce was part of the report from the 911 Commission when Richard Clark testified that he, as the CIA Counter-terrorism Officer created Al Qaida, to use throughout the Middle-East as one of the CIA assets in the field.

O: "And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al-Qaida, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network."

k: Leon Panetta is not smart enough to tie his own shoelaces, much less to be responsible for anything of consequence. He just got promoted for his lackey-services to the administration, by being moved up to head the Pentagon: "Panetta said that his mission was 'to make certain that the United States remained the world's most powerful military in the world; to "PROTECT the SECURITY that is so important to this country." Excuse me; what is supposed to be protected is not "SECURITY" but "FREEDOM" Â* because without Freedom the only point of having "excessive-and totally protected-security" is to maintain the Police-State that we are all now living in!" (1)

O: "Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we

developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice."

k: "The embarrassment of having Secretary of State Clinton talk about bin Laden in Pakistan was horrific. He has been dead since December 13, 2001 and now, finally, everyone, Obama, McChrystal, Cheney, everyone who isn't nuts is finally saying what they have known for years.

However, since we lost a couple of hundred of our top special operations forces hunting for bin Laden after we knew he was dead, is someone going to answer for this with some jail time? Since we spent 200 million dollars on "special ops" looking for someone we knew was dead, who is going to jail for that? Since Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney continually talked about a man they knew was dead, now known to be for reasons of POLITICAL nature, who is going to jail for that? Why were tapes brought out, now known to be forged, as legitimate intelligence to sway the disputed 2004 election in the US? This is a criminal act if there ever was one.

In 66 pages, General Stanley McChrystal never mentions Osama bin Laden. Everything is "Mullah Omar" now. In his talk at West Point, President Obama never mentioned Osama bin Laden. Col. Pappas makes it clear, Vice President Cheney let it "out of the bag" long ago.
Bin Laden was killed by American troops many, many years ago.

America knew Osama bin Laden died December 13, 2001. After that, his use was hardly one to unite America but rather one to divide, scam and play games. With bin Laden gone, we could have started legitimate nation building in Afghanistaninstead of the eternal insurgency that we invented ourselves." (2)

O: "Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound inAbbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."

k: As they had to know that this was a matter of supposedly massive importance (assuming that they did NOT know that Osama has been dead since December 13, 2001) why did these super-killers not take photographs of the corpse, or get a DNA sample from the body? If they were "hunting Osama with such ferocity for over ten years," then why were they not interested in having any PROOF whatsoever of what they say they did? That doesn't make sense, given that according to Obama these people ought to be acclaimed national heroes for their service to their country Â* or something like that. WHERE'S THE PROOF THAT WHO THEY KILLED WAS INDEED OSAMA BIN LADEN!

O: "For over two decades, bin Laden has been al-Qaida's leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat al-Qaeda."

k: All you have to do Obama, to "Defeat Al Qaeda, is just open the file drawer and tear up the file. We could sure use the multiple-Trillions that you and Bush have managed to totally waste, chasing the shadows you and the Pentagon along with Mossad & the FBI created.

O: "Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There's no doubt that al-Qaida will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must -- and we will -- remain vigilant at home and abroad."

k: Of course, how else would anyone expect a completely cowardly nation to react, especially now that we have all but SURRENDERED OUTRIGHT to Homeland Security-wherever they choose to raise their serpentine heads.

O: "As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not -- and never will be -- at war with Islam. I've made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al-Qaida has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity."

k: Maybe Obama might want to ask himself about the millions upon millions that we've already maimed, tortured and killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as Pakistan and now Libya? And if you add in what we've done to the Palestinians under Reichfurer Netanyahu; but that's another story. What should he say "Oops Â* sorry about that?" Anyone that understands what they are looking at today in the Middle-East would have to conclude that if we are not "at war" with Muslims then we are certainly giving a very good imitation of that apparent fact.

O: "Over the years, I've repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we've done. But it's important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people. Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al-Qaida and its affiliates."

k: More propaganda, more disinformation and lots more lies to add to the already overflowing barrels of lies that both Obama and Bush have been spreading everywhere now for the last eleven years.

O: "The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded.

k: Yeah we are beginning to understand the costs of this war, that we are paying for while the rich have both their get-out-of-jail-free cards and their massive bonuses, and we continue to get the shaft. Stuff the speech Obama that might have worked in World War Two, but now it's just another huge portion of swill for the fools and suckers to swallow whole.

O: "So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al-Qaida's terror: Justice has been done."

k: You can say nothing of the kind Barrack. There is no Al Qaida; there is no justice in any of these twisted wars for corporate greed and global terror: there is only you and all your lies, acting as the MC for New World Order, and the elites whenever your presence is required. Understand this Mr. Imposter: You need to be impeached forthwith, and after you are found guilty you will be found swinging from a rope on national television for TREASON. You've lied about your Birth Certificate and now you're lying about bin Laden's Death Certificate. You are no longer of any use at all.

O: "Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day. Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores."

k: If you were serious about that you would insist upon imprisoning all those in this country that were complicit in the attacks of 911-because they are still here and wearing multi-thousand dollar suits, they don't live in caves and they aren't Saudi-Citizens: Most of them are Zionists but all of them are traitors to this country.

O: "And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today's achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it's the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place."

k: "The sheer arrogance of that statement given the differences between the truth and your lying-version of everything that has happened since 911: That statement is filled not just with hypocrisy, but it is virtually trolling for a system of values that if they were in effect today would have killed you outright long before now. "Prosperity and Equality"! And what about "Freedom, Responsibility, or Justice"? Guess they don't count any more- right Obama?

O: "Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America."

k: Maybe it was once true that Americans could do whatever they set their minds to: But it appears that with so much "help" from censors, monitors and spies, that's become a lot more difficult to do these days-but you wouldn't know much about that either, which is YET another reason to IMPEACH YOU NOW!

kirwanstudios@sbcglobal.net

1) Playing the HAARP Card
http://www.kirwanesque.com/politics/art ... art114.htm

2) Gordon Duff: Years of Deceit US Openly Accepts bin Laden Long Dead
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/12/05 ... long-dead/

http://www.rense.com/general93/prove.htm

Do I believe the real Bin Laden was killed during this operation? That would mean I believe a pathological liar like Obama/Soetoro and the CIA. When pigs fly.

The media will spend all day on the Bin Laden story and how the brilliant Obama/Soetoro got the most wanted man in history, but they won't be covering this event today:

9th Circuit will hear eligibility arguments

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293005

I am with you Devvy, Timing is everything.....

Cleric: Jihad coming to 'heart of America

Al-Qaida revenge attacks to have 'devastating effect'

Posted: May 02, 2011
7:41 pm Eastern

© 2011 WorldNetDaily

The death of Osama bin Laden will bring a "new era of jihad," predicted British extremist cleric Anjem Choudary.

Warning there are motivated jihadists "in the heart of America," Choudary said al-Qaida will likely carry out revenge operations with "meticulous accuracy" and "devastating affect" comparable to that of the 9/11 attacks.

Choudary is the founder and former chief of two Islamic groups disbanded by the British authorities under anti-terror legislation.

Get the inside story, in "Why We Left Islam: Former Muslims Speak Out"

Speaking today in an interview with "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" of New York's WABC Radio, Choudary said that while bin Laden was a "lion of Islam … there are many lions waiting to take his place."

"I do believe that the death of Sheikh Osama will bring in a new era of jihad," Choudary told Klein.

"Post-Osama bin Laden, I believe the mujahedeen around the world will have something to prove, that the jihad is not about an individual."

Choudary said instability for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan "will be a complete nightmare after this event."

Asked whether he believes al-Qaida is planning revenge attacks, the British extremist speculated the global jihad group "will have their own emergency meetings and they will plan their own response."

Continued Choudary: "It may be in the short-term or it may be in the long-term, but ultimately, we know that when they decide on an operation, that most likely it will be fulfilled with meticulous accuracy and with devastating effect."

"We saw that with 9/11," he added.

Choudary said worldwide jihad "at the current time is spread right from Australia all the way to the heart of Europe and into the United States."

"There are many people who believe in the phenomenon of jihad which has been franchised as well from al-Qaida. … And these people live in theheart of Europe and they live in the heart of America."

Choudary currently presents himself as an Islamic lecturer and a leader of Britain's Shariah Islamic court. He is a founder and former chief of Al Muhajiroun, a British group that sought to impose an Islamic state on the U.K. and that was allied with the goals of al-Qaida.

Al Muhajiroun was officially disbanded by the British government in 2004 under anti-terrorism laws, and its main leader, Omar Bakri Muhammad, was banned from the U.K. in 2005. Choudary then became a leader of Al Ghurabaa, which was reportedly a continuation of Al Muhajiroun. Al Ghurabaa was banned in 2006 by the U.K. for reportedly supporting terrorism.

Former Al Muhajiroun members led by Choudary reportedly continue their activism at public protests and on Internet forums under a new banner group called Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah.

Choudary in 2007 led a protest outside London's Central Mosque attended by WND. The protest called for the downfall of the British government for offering knighthood to novelist and essayist Salman Rushdie, who was accused by Muslims of defaming Islam and Muhammad in his 1988 book "The Satanic Verses."

Depictions of British flags were burned at Choudary's protest. Ralliers chanted, "Down with Britain, down with the Queen."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=294153