Thread: From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA WE LOST IN THE HOUSE

From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Wednesday 8DEC2010 10 p.m. EST


WE LOST IN THE HOUSE

Now We Have To Defeat DREAM Act Amnesty In The Senate Thursday Morning.

Start calling your own U.S. Senators at 8 Thursday morning until we announce the vote.

202-224-3121

* We will be providing you faxes of thanks and disgust to send to your U.S. Representatives later to make sure they know that you were watching.

For now, though, focus your attention on the Senate.

You can find the Senate target list on our www.NumbersUSA.com

* The House vote at 9:01 p.m. EST tonight was 216-198 in passing the amnesty in the House.

But the amnesty won't actually happen if if the Senate fails to get 60 votes for cloture Thursday. We only have to win once to win the whole thing.

* The Senate cloture vote is required to allow the debate to start on the amnesty. If it gets less than 60, the bill is dead.

If cloture DOES pass, there will be a debate on the bill and then another cloture vote in which we can again have a chance to kill the bill by keeping the vote below 60 (of the 100 Senators).

WE'LL WEBCAST SENATE VOTE AND OUR COMMENTARY LIVE

We invite you back into our conference room Thursday morning to watch the Senate vote with our NumbersUSA staff.

Note that the address is not dot com, but dot tv:

www.NumbersUSA.tv

The Senate schedule states that the amnesty will be taken up after the Senate convenes at 9:30. That could easily change, but we'll be live then in case things start happening that early.

OUR LIVE WEBCAST OF HOUSE AMNESTY VOTE
WAS NO. 1 USTREAM IN THE WORLD WEDNESDAY NIGHT

Thanks to all of you who joined us in our conference room via www.NumbersUSA.tv tonight.

We started at 3:30 p.m. just before Senate Majority Leader Reid had promised to have a Senate vote. We stayed live until we lost the House vote after 9 p.m. We were amazed how many of you stuck with us for hours.

During most of the early part, we were ranked No. 2 in the world. And during the final couple hours we were ranked No. 1 in viewership.

20 House Members Failed To Vote

The usual 218 vote majority was not needed tonight because 20 Representatives failed to show up to vote:

DEMOCRATS: Berry (Ark.), Cohen (Tenn.), Delahunt (Mass.), Kilpatrick (Mich.), Marshall (Ga.), Mollohan (W.Va.), Schiff (Calif.) and Wu (Oregon)

REPUBLICANS: Bilbray (Calif.), Blunt (Mo.) Buyer (Ind.), Fallin (Okla.), Gingrey (Ga.), Granger (Texas), Griffith (Ala.), Marchant (Texas), McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), Radanovich (Calif.) and Stutzman (Ind.)

It is doubtful that these absences affected the final outcome.

8 REPUBLICANS Broke With Their Party Leadership
And Voted FOR The Amnesty

Our chances to defeat the amnesty were sunk with the defection of these 8 Republicans in favor of amnesty:

DELAWARE - Castle
FLORIDA - L. Diaz-Balart
FLORIDA - M. Diaz-Balart
FLORIDA - Ros-Lehtinen
HAWAII - Djou
LOUISIANA - Cao
MICHIGAN - Ehlers
SOUTH CAROLINA - Inglis

38 DEMOCRATS Broke With Their Party Leadership And Voted AGAINST Amnesty

We almost did as well with Democrats as I had hoped. I had always said we needed at least 42 Democrats to vote for unemployed Americans and against the amnesty, although I felt 45 probably was needed. Because of so many Republican defections, we actually needed more.

These were both re-elected Democrats and Democrats who were defeated, all of whom went against incredibly emotional appeals from their Party's top leaders in floor speeches tonight.

It is quite rare for a Speaker of the House to go to the floor and make a speech. But Speaker Pelosi made it clear that passing this amnesty is one of the dearest things to her heart in an impassioned speech that seemed to laud as a hero every citizen of another country who is courageous enough to break our immigration laws.

Nonetheless, these Democrats OPPOSED the amnesty:

ALABAMA - Barrow
ALABAMA - Bright
ARKANSAS - Ross

ILLINOIS - Costello
ILLINOIS - Lipinski

INDIANA - Donnelly
INDIANA - Ellsworth
INDIANA - Visclosky

KENTUCKY - Chandler
MARYLAND - Kratovil
MICHIGAN - Stupak
MINNESOTA - Peterson

MISSISSIPPI - Childers
MISSISSIPPI - Taylor

NEW YORK - Arcuri
NEW YORK - Higgins
NEW YORK - Owens

NORTH CAROLINA - Kissell
NORTH CAROLINA - McIntyre
NORTH CAROLINA - Shuler

OHIO - Boccieri
OHIO - Kaptur
OHIO - Space
OHIO - Wilson
OKLAHOMA - Boren

PENNSYLVANIA - Altmire
PENNSYLVANIA - Carney
PENNYSLVANIA - Critz
PENNSYLVANIA - Dahlkemper
PENNSYLVANIA - Holden
PENNSYLVANIA - Kanjorski
PENNSYLVANIA - P. Murphy

UTAH - Matheson
VIRGINIA - Boucher
VIRGINIA - Nye
WASHINGTON - Baird
WEST VIRGINIA - Rahall

No matter what you may think about the rest of the politics of these Members, I hope those of you in their states will give them major pats on the back for taking this stand.

Notice how they are from all over the country.

Special thanks to all of you Pennsylvanians who outdid yourself with 7 Democrats voting NO.

And how often do you New Yorkers have something to be proud about when it comes to immigration voting? But you did well tonight. So did those of you from Indiana, Ohio and North Carolina.

I'm especially proud of all the Democrats who lost their seats in the November elections and still voted against their Party leaders and against the amnesty tonight.

Most Senate voicemail boxes are full. So, you won't be able to leave messages. You need to start calling after 7 a.m. EST Thursday for a last chance to affect the outcome.

SEE YOU ON THE LIVE WEBCAST THURSDAY MORNING,

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Roy Beck, President NumbersUSA


Kathyet

Friends of ALIPAC,

The US House just passed Dream Amnesty and they have not done anything on this scale since 1986! The last time they gave 3 million illegals Amnesty, it got us 12-20. Please envision what the ramifications will be for you and the nation should we fail in the defense of our nation today.

Your immediate volunteerism is needed.

Please click on this link below to access ALIPAC's targeted Senators list. We have selected mostly Senators that are up for reelection in 2012.

Your call should be firm and passionate, but not over the top. Call, call, call and then follow up your message by email and/or fax.

Call as many of these offices as you can filling the voice-mails and ears of staff. Staff needs to report to Senators that angry Americans are calling in droves to OPPOSE DREAM AMNESTY CLOTURE. Call the DC offices first then call the district offices.

"I'm calling to ask Senator _____ to vote NO on CLOTURE for the Dream Amnesty TODAY. I plan to make it my mission in life to throw any politician who votes for CLOTURE on this bill OUT OF OFFICE IN THE ELECTIONS! Please listen to and represent Americans, instead of illegal aliens by voting NO on CLOTURE."

Yes, I am ready to click this link and call the Senate using ALIPAC's messages and targeting now (clicking Here)
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-219596.html
_________________

LET"S GET THE JOB DONE PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by working4change

LET"S GET THE JOB DONE PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!

Together we CAN DO THIS!!!! UNITED WE STAND!

FROM THE ILLEGALS

NYSYLC Senator Collins: Biddeford State Office: (207)283-1101 Portland State Office: (207)780-3575 Call & urge them to vote Yes on Dream Act! #fb

1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone .

NYSYLC Senator Collins: Augusta State Office: (207) 622-8414 Lewiston State Office: (207) 784-6969 #fb

2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

NYSYLC: Senator Susan Collins: Caribou State Office: (207) 493-7873 Bangor State Office: (207) 945-0417 #fb

less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone .

Just called Bart Stupak's office (MI). He was one of the Dems that voted no. Thanked him and asked his aide if there was any news about how things would go in the Senate this morning. She basically said no one knows. Keep calling, folks!

Live from NumbersUSA Conference Room



http://www.numbersusa.tv/



The vote is now at 11AM and Reid isn't going to go for cloture just a vote..


http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

Republicans have stopped the game by the Democrats and are forcing them to vote in the Senate today. Vote is still at 11AM. This is confusing and a lot of stuff is going on back and forth..... There will be an email coming from Roy Beck on this ...it is very confusing.....but I am watching numbersusa.tv I hope some one here can explain it better than me..


Kathyet

The republicans want the vote today...Ried lost his bid to force the House bill through the Senate....this is great watching ...they are explaining it very well....

http://www.numbersusa.tv/



From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: 09 DEC 2010 10:07 EST

Our News Coverage Now on NumbersUSA.tv

Dear Member,

Click this link to go to NumbersUSA.tv NOW where we are on the air with live news coverage on the Senate vote on the DREAM Amnesty, which is going to happen later this morning.

NumbersUSA.tv

Roy


Kathyet

The first vote is imminent ...

http://www.numbersusa.tv/


this is what has happened so far

Updated: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 10:53 AM

The House passed the DREAM Act amnesty (H.R. 5281) last night by a 216-198 margin. This morning, Sen. Reid moved to vitiate (i.e., cancel) a cloture vote on S. 3992 (Senate DREAM Act), hoping to later move to a vote on H.R. 5281. However Senate Republicans refused in order to force Democrats into two votes, the first of which they are likely to lose because of unified Republican opposition prior to passage of tax cut/government funding legislation. Today's cloture vote will occur at 11 a.m. Please continue to call the Senate at 202-224-3121 and urge a NO on the DREAM Act.

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Still waiting for the vote...they need 60 votes lets hope they don't get them....this is a quorum call..meeting etc....this is a dangerous time to me this is when they make deals...I worry about this time....



Reid is trying to stop the vote now it is a motion to table I think ...if this happens, it gets pushed off till next week ..not good for us ....



Kathyet

CNN just announced the Democratic will not go for the Tax cuts bill next week...

And they are now voting to table the the vote for the dream act..the dream act may be a casualty of the tax bill fight.....this is what I was hoping....before...very confusing....might be good....we still have another week and anything thing can happen till the 5th of January..but so far so good...the vote is tabled....it is vitiated...this is very confusing


Back to calling and faxing busy week and we have to pay attention they are sneaky, lots of things can happen........things being pushed off doesn't mean a thing nothing is over till it is over....Reid does not want this brought to the Senate floor next week....big fight ahead....



Kathyet