Thread: The Russian Crime Organization That Operated in Trump Tower

I can't believe we waste precious federal resources on investigations like what was described as going on in the Trump Tower from the rich people money poker games to telephone sports betting. The FBI tapped these people's phones and apartment unit for 2 years. One guy was sentenced 5 years on a plea bargain and another one was sentenced ... 1 year. And the sad thing is no one cares if rich people play money poker in their apartments, who cares? No one cares. And half of the people of the United States are betting on sports of one kind of another. It's a total waste of money and a violation of their rights to play cards, watch sporting events and place wagers on the outcome. It's fun, it's entertainment, best I can tell, it's some type of excitement, something to look forward to, a competition with regards to the cards, a prediction game with regards to the sports. Why would it be illegal in the first place? I don't get it.

Time to review all those laws and get rid of the frivolous investigations.

Originally Posted by Judy

I can't believe we waste precious federal resources on investigations like what was described as going on in the Trump Tower from the rich people money poker games to telephone sports betting. The FBI tapped these people's phones and apartment unit for 2 years. One guy was sentenced 5 years on a plea bargain and another one was sentenced ... 1 year. And the sad thing is no one cares if rich people play money poker in their apartments, who cares? No one cares. And half of the people of the United States are betting on sports of one kind of another. It's a total waste of money and a violation of their rights to play cards, watch sporting events and place wagers on the outcome. It's fun, it's entertainment, best I can tell, it's some type of excitement, something to look forward to, a competition with regards to the cards, a prediction game with regards to the sports. Why would it be illegal in the first place? I don't get it.

Time to review all those laws and get rid of the frivolous investigations.

GOLUBCHIK and TRINCHER were also each ordered to forfeit more than $20 million in cash, investments, and real property. They were charged in April 2013 along with 32 other alleged members and associates of two Russian-American organized crime enterprises in an indictment that included racketeering, money laundering, extortion, and various gambling offenses.

GOLUBCHIK and TRINCHER were sentenced by U.S. District Judge Jesse M. Furman.
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said: “The sentences meted out to Anatoly Golubchik and Vadim Trincher are just and appropriate penalties for the roles the defendants played in this far-reaching, Russian-American organized crime ring.

So where did their money go that they "forfeited"? Who got it? Sounds like a federal theft ring to me. Did they send it back to Russia? Did they send it to Ukraine? Where did it go? Who got it?

Originally Posted by Judy

So where did their money go that they "forfeited"? Who got it? Sounds like a federal theft ring to me. Did they send it back to Russia? Did they send it to Ukraine? Where did it go? Who got it?

Money ordered forfieted by a federal judge for crimes committed in the U.S. go into the Federal Fines and Forfeitures Account. This money is used for grants to city, county, state and federal law enforcement agencies for law enforcement purposes.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Money ordered forfieted by a federal judge for crimes committed in the U.S. go into the Federal Fines and Forfeitures Account. This money is used for grants to city, county, state and federal law enforcement agencies for law enforcement purposes.

Theoretically --- maybe.

Forfeitures in Criminal Sentencing

Where's the Money Go?

The sale proceeds from forfeited real and personal property, or the cash turned over by the defendant, are usually used for law enforcement projects, such as buying new equipment. Some of the money may go into the federal Crime Victims Fund, which is run by the Office for Victims of Crime. Most states have similar funds. These funds provide things like medical services and emergency shelter for victims of crimes.


http://criminal.lawyers.com/criminal...entencing.html

21 U.S. Code § 853 - Criminal forfeitures | US Law | LII / Legal ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/853
(a) Property subject to criminal forfeitureAny person convicted of a violation of this .... the obstruction of justice provision of the Federal Sentencing Guidelines.


Rule 32.2 Criminal Forfeiture | Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_32.2
A court must not enter a judgment of forfeiture in a criminal proceeding ... regarding that property under Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 4 (b). .... Other courts also ask the jury if the defendant has a legal interest in the forfeited property.


18 U.S. Code § 981 - Civil forfeiture | US Law | LII / Legal Information ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/981
(1) The following property is subject to forfeiture to the United States: .... Notwithstanding the provisions of rule 41(a) of the Federal Rules ofCriminal Procedure, ...


Types Of Federal Forfeiture | AFP | Department of Justice

https://www.justice.gov/afp/types-federal-forfeiture
Feb 1, 2017 - Criminal forfeiture is an action brought as a part of the criminal ... for State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies, U.S. Department of Justice, ...