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    Laraza and the illegal voter.

    Everyone should have a Drivers License and that should be all the proof you need to vote? Shut this website down.

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    I had always thought that international driver's licenses were available throughout the world. Some countries don't recognize them but I think most do.
    http://www.aaa.com/vacation/idpf.html
    If they need a drivers license they should be able to get one in their home country that would list their true address.
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    The excerpt below from that site is the most outrageous. How do they have "voting rights".


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    The right to vote is a fundamental and basic right guaranteed to all U.S. citizens by the Fifteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Every voter has the right to cast an informed and effective vote. This right is extended to all people, including those for whom English is not their first language

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    saveourcountry wrote:

    The excerpt below from that site is the most outrageous. How do they have "voting rights".


    Voting Rights
    The right to vote is a fundamental and basic right guaranteed to all U.S. citizens by the Fifteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Every voter has the right to cast an informed and effective vote. This right is extended to all people, including those for whom English is not their first language
    They don't. The paragraphy you cited clearly says "right to vote is a fundamental and basic right guaranteed to all U.S. citizens." However, some U.S. citizens first language is not English.

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    MW - I see now after rereading it. Thanks

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    The part that gets me is the Government has no right to ask them for more then a Drivers License and they don't need to prove they are legal. Bull Crap. I think we need guards at the polling booths.
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    Amendment 15 - Race No Bar to Vote. Ratified 2/3/1870. History

    1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

    2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

    And slightly related...

    Amendment 26 - Voting Age Set to 18 Years. Ratified 7/1/1971. History

    1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

    2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

    One more...

    Amendment 24 - Poll Tax Barred. Ratified 1/23/1964. History

    1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

    2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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    This is the area where we should be fighting hard. These groups are gearing up to get these people to voting booths -- and SOMEONE in our government, our legal system, has got to get this stopped. It will completely destroy our election. No one will know the true outcome -- it would be utter chaos. Will make Florida and the Bush vote debacle look like kindergarten play.

    LEGAL hispanic citizens have probably been here for years and are probably already registered to vote. They didn't need LaRaza then and they don't need them now -- they CAN speak English and they have assimilated as Americans -- not "hispanic Americans" -- a special group that demands special priviledges and assistance.

    I think THIS is one issue where we need to write our reps NOW so they know we are aware of it and watching . . . They've got time now to prepare, and to make sure it doesn't happen.

    I think this is one area where citizens need to take it upon themselves to guard the polls.

    Gotta love this bit, too -- talk about creating a "disadvantaged" class:

    Compared to some of our venerable counterparts in the civil rights and advocacy community, we are a relatively young institution, representing Latinos, an historically disadvantaged and oft-misunderstood ethnic minority.
    Historically disadvantaged? Hmmm, I did not know that. I've never viewed them as disadvantaged ... WHO, if anyone is this country is disadvantaged? My God, there are special benefits and special incentives, special scholarships, special everything if you are a minority of any kind . ..

    Try being WHITE -- that's the REAL disadvantaged group in this country.

    My daughter attends a private college where she has to pay most of the full tuition. Several of her minority friends are there are free ride scholarships, from everything to violin to sports, to academic grants based on their various ethnicities. WE have to save and scrimp and take out multiple loans, while these kids go free .... believe me, there is no disadvantage that they don't create FOR THEMSELVES.

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    We need to have ICE and border patrol at each election site. Even if you just buy the hat or jacket and stand around, it may just stop some of them. Maybe?
    Geez, if we let this happen we are in deep doo doo.
    Rights? Seems everyone has rights except Americans. Keep on the phones, faxes and emails. We have to stop this now.
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    An international driver's license is only valid for one year and once immigrating here with a valid SS#, etc., you can apply for a proper DL. So one can drive here in the U.S. using the IDL.

    Thanks for the link because me being new did not know what the NCLR was. I was about to google it.

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