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    Let Mexicans stimilate Mexico's economy.

    The great American give-away brings Mexicans to this country and not jobs waiting for them to fill that American will not do. If Mexicans stayed in Mexico and 10 million returned, they would stimulate Mexico’s economy and create jobs for themselves. They can open business and the buying would stimulate the economy and create more jobs.

    Allowing Mexico’s people to come here and given amnesty is doing a big dis-service to Mexico’s economy. Our immigration policies are hurting Mexico and Mexico has only to depend on the money that it’s people are sending back to Mexico. They come here and open business and create jobs and stimulate our economy (and take full advantage of the “great American give-away” )they can do the same for Mexico.

    It is like a town when the people leave. The town dies. I’ve seen it happen in the town that I grew up in southern Ariz. The same goes for a country when it’s people leaves.

    (I use Mexico because the majority of illegals here are from Mexico)

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    It is time for the US to pull back from assisting any foreign countries. There is never any gratitude and they continue to expect more and more from us, while condeming what we do. Let's help American citizens for a change. I am tired of getting beaten up. Our government makes ridiculous amounts of contibutions and so do our private citizens. What other country does that?

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    Allowing Mexico’s people to come here and given amnesty is doing a big dis-service to Mexico’s economy.
    I think you are right, dyehard39. It only makes sense and let's not forget some of the women in Mexico begging us to enforce our immigration laws because they are being left alone to fend for themselves.

    Illegals go home and face up to the responsibility that you have to your country and your families!!
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    I agree with you, Neese. But I also think that we are living in a time of globalism because of technology and that we cannot and would never become complete isolationists. (not the you were indicating that).

    But it is time that we pay a lot of attention to our country, our people and our problems!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen
    I agree with you, Neese. But I also think that we are living in a time of globalism because of technology and that we cannot and would never become complete isolationists. (not the you were indicating that).

    But it is time that we pay a lot of attention to our country, our people and our problems!!
    I am not implying to be an isolationist, but most other countries reap the benefits of globalism without giving their own countries away. There was a time when the US got repect and admiration for their efforts. Now, it is expected, and we are also chastised by our efforts...we can't win. Didn't you find it ironic that after the tsunami, Indonesia was bashing the US, for taking so long to help, when they were surrounded by countries that could have helped them more quickly because they were geographically closer? Not to mention they are a predominantly Muslim country. they don't mind assisting terrorism, but they want us to help too? Who was accountable for all of the supplies and assistance that we gave? Right into the corrupt government's pocket. Supplies were not even sent to the people who needed them. They were sold on the black market, and the orphans were recruited by terrorist groups. They need to make a choice and stop using us when it is convenient.

    How about the UN? We are footing the majority of that expense...again, they have no loyalty to us, and it is completely corrupt. Why bother with it any more? Did they help us with the war in the middle east?

    How about Darfur? The same people complaining about the war in the middle east, are also complaining about us not helping with the civil war there. It does not involve us. We need to stay out of it.

    Mexico seems to think that we owe them something...to fix their economy and support their citizens, both here and in their own country. Why don't they give us the income off of their drug business? That should clear up ourt Federal debt in about a week.

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    It doesn't hurt the Mexican GDP. Remittences from their work here are the second (some sources say #1) leading source of revenue for the mexican economy. THAT is the problem. Much like what our economy is turning into, there is much wealth in Mexico.......its just all in the hands of the few oligarchs at the top. I believe we would do a great service to Mexico by building the fence on all 2,000 miles, and sending illegals back to Mexico through attrition. Why? If these 12-20 million dispossesed people went back to Mexico and stayed there--the oligarchs face a huge problem. As Pat Buchanan put it: Mexico would stare revolution in the face. That is a big reason why the Mexican government is exporting its population here. If these illegals go back to Mexico, perhaps they can shift all of this anti-American activism towards the people who are actually responsible for them being poor in the first place. In the best case scenario, they would tear down the mexican oligarchy, build a Mexican middle-class, and stay in Mexico to make it a strong successful nation. I would very much like to trade with THAT mexico. REAL trade. Where we manufacture products and grow produce, and they do the same, and we exchange the goods for mutual benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearFlagRepublic
    It doesn't hurt the Mexican GDP. Remittences from their work here are the second (some sources say #1) leading source of revenue for the mexican economy. THAT is the problem. Much like what our economy is turning into, there is much wealth in Mexico.......its just all in the hands of the few oligarchs at the top. I believe we would do a great service to Mexico by building the fence on all 2,000 miles, and sending illegals back to Mexico through attrition. Why? If these 12-20 million dispossesed people went back to Mexico and stayed there--the oligarchs face a huge problem. As Pat Buchanan put it: Mexico would stare revolution in the face. That is a big reason why the Mexican government is exporting its population here. If these illegals go back to Mexico, perhaps they can shift all of this anti-American activism towards the people who are actually responsible for them being poor in the first place. In the best case scenario, they would tear down the mexican oligarchy, build a Mexican middle-class, and stay in Mexico to make it a strong successful nation. I would very much like to trade with THAT mexico. REAL trade. Where we manufacture products and grow produce, and they do the same, and we exchange the goods for mutual benefit.
    Sounds to me like you are talking about a mutually respectable relationship. That is impossible because Mexico already knows that it can get the milk for free. All they have to do is scream "racism", or throw the "kid card" in there, or any type of so called "abuse" from the US, and everybody starts running around trying to help them, for fear of not being politically correct. It is a joke and the world is laughing at us.

    My philosphy is this: help anyone until they show you disrespect or start making unncessary demands. Then... slowly pull away from the situation and let them fend for themselves. We should not allow anyone to control us. I know that I won't. Some people have to learn the hard way that one is the lonliest number.

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    I'm not for wasting our nation's money. If something doesn't work then don't fund it. And I can understand everyone's frustration with countries like Mexico. They don't provide a decent life for most of their people, and then expect the USA to be the safetly valve for millions of their poor. It angers me too. But bottom line is if most people don't have a decent life down there they will continue to come here. So we have to find ways to help these countries create more jobs, etc. You can say all you want "it's up to them to fix their own house", etc. But you know what - sometimes they can't without help. This is especially true with some of these Central American countries - Mexico might not be dirt poor, but places like Guatemala or Nicaragua are.

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