Thread: Selective Service Shoots Homeland Security in Foot

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by butterbean

I bet you still have to be a US citizen. This was posted on the DA portal.
Since the DRAFT has been abolished, I don't think you still are required to register anyway. I'm confused.

There is no draft in place at this time, but every male citizen must register with the armed forces at the age of 18, they can go to jail if they fail to do this. Does that help??

"but every male citizen" - So it is required by CITIZENS, not illegal aliens, right?

Originally Posted by butterbean

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by butterbean

I bet you still have to be a US citizen. This was posted on the DA portal.
Since the DRAFT has been abolished, I don't think you still are required to register anyway. I'm confused.

There is no draft in place at this time, but every male citizen must register with the armed forces at the age of 18, they can go to jail if they fail to do this. Does that help??

"but every male citizen" - So it is required by CITIZENS, not illegal aliens, right?

Right!!!

Creating a Mexican army inside the U.S.A. is a hell of a lot easier than just trying to bring them across the border. They are going to need that army to fight the American people for control of this country. American soldiers are not going to follow orders to fire on Americans when the time comes. I guess if they finally figured that out they are not as stupid as their speeches make them appear.

All government agencies should be interacting with one another on this issue and others that affect our national security.

Doesn't say much for a government agency to state such.

By law, illegal aliens have to register with Selective Service.

http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm

WHO MUST REGISTER

Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces.

A chart of who must register is also available. http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm

NON-CITIZENS
Some non-citizens are required to register. Others are not. Noncitizens who are not required to register with Selective Service include men who are in the U.S. on student or visitor visas, and men who are part of a diplomatic or trade mission and their families. Almost all other male noncitizens are required to register, including illegal aliens, legal permanent residents, and refugees. The general rule is that if a male noncitizen takes up residency in the U.S. before his 26th birthday, he must register with Selective Service. For a more detailed list of which non-citizens must register, see Who Must Register - Chart .

"Fences make good neighbors."

"My America" Thanks for the correction, I have never heard of such a stupid thing in my life.

Wouldn't you feel safe out there not knowing if our government has trained one of our enemy's with no loyalty to America to fight beside you or have an opportunity to shoot you in the back at close range. This is so pathetic I can't even find the right words.

I stand corrected though and my husband who went to Nam twice is shocked also, he had never heard this either.

Don't you think it is odd that this add does not say undocumented aliens are "required" to register......they make it sound like you have a choice.

Selective Service does not collect any information which would indicate whether or not you are undocumented. You want to protect yourself for future U.S. citizenship and other government benefits and programs by registering with Selective Service. Do it today.

So is this another law they have broken?????

SOSADFORUS wrote:

So is this another law they have broken?????

Yes if a male age 18 to 26 enters the U.S. illegally:
Crime one--entering U.S. illegally
Crime two--failure to register with Selective Service if he fails to do so.

The penalties for failing to register are WONDERFUL and apply equally to all citizens, documented aliens, and illegal immigrants: $250,000 fine and/or 5 years in prison; ineligible for student aid, U.S. citizenship, federal job training, and federal jobs.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defensean ... aftreg.htm

During deportation hearings, draft registration status should be checked and those who didn't register, fined $250,000, and told they can never be an American citizen. Realistically will never see a cent of money but is good incentive to stay south of the border.

When this law was drafted, illegal immigrants were of a different characterist. Believe this law was originally meant as a tracking device so they could keep track of the names and locations of illegal aliens in the event of war with their home country so they could be watched or deported.

I believe finger-printing should be required when registering with Selective Service and that would help eliminate fraud and idenity changes. Selective Service is aiding and abetting illegal immigrants by failing to share it's information with other federal agencies and guilty of a felony.

The Law:
1. It is 'aiding or abetting' to "encourage or induce an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law." 8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv).

2. It is 'aiding or abetting' to "conceal or attempt to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, illegal aliens, including any building or any means of transportation."
8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii).

3. It is also 'aiding or abetting' to "engage in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts."
8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(v)(I).

4. It is a felony to 'aid or abet' in the commission of the above acts.
8 U.S.C. § 1324(a)(1)(A)(v)(II).

You are right they should finger print when they register not just when they enlist.

That is a pretty hefty fine, eh! It might help keep them south of the border.

This is incredible!