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    Senate defeats gun background check proposal

    Breaking: Senate defeats gun background check proposal


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    CNN Political Unit (CNN) – In a major defeat for supporters of tougher gun laws, the Senate on Wednesday defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on firearms sales.
    The bipartisan compromise was championed by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and backed by President Barack Obama in his push for a package of gun laws in the aftermath of the Newtown school massacre.
     
     
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    Some good news for a change!!

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    OBAMA THROWS TANTRUM OVER GUN CONTROL DEFEAT



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    by JOEL B. POLLAK
    17 Apr 2013

    President Barack Obama lashed out defiantly and viciously at political opponents who defeated his efforts to expand federal gun regulations today. Standing with families of victims of the Newtown school shooting at the White House, the president claimed that opponents of expanded federal background checks had "no coherent arguments" for their position, and that the "gun lobby" had "willfully lied" in the course of the debate.

    Ironically, while accusing others of lying, President Obama resorted to false claims and statistics about current laws, including the repeatedly debunked argument that 40% of gun sales are private, and that guns can be bought over the Internet without background checks. It was partly the dishonesty of those very arguments that had led potential supporters of new bipartisan legislation to doubt the administration's motives in supporting the bill.

    The administration's defeat came earlier Wednesday, when the Senate failed to pass a cloture motion to end debate on a bipartisan proposal introduced by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-WV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA). Only 54 votes of the
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    votes could be found to support an expanded federal background check system (among other changes), partly because of fears that extending such checks would require the creation of a federal gun registry that could lead to confiscation.

    The failure brought an end to four months of fervent campaigning by the president during which he used the Newtown disaster--or, in the eyes of many critics, exploited it--to make an argument about the urgent need for new laws, even if such laws would not have prevented the Newtown atrocity itself. Many Democrats rallied behind him, hoping at first to pass a new assault weapons ban, then abandoning that effort for more modest regulations.

    Along the way, the administration lost the support of Democratic Senators in conservative states, many of whom will face re-election in 2014. President Obama made clear his intention to use Wednesday's defeat to rally supporters against Republicans, whom he blamed directly and angrily, suggesting that they had defied the will of the American people and attempted to silence the families of Newtown victims who had a "right" to be heard in the debate.

    Forced to cover a rare political defeat for the president, the mainstream media largely echoed his emotions. Virtually all of CNN's correspondents agreed that the Manchin-Toomey bill had been defeated because of the power of the National Rifle Association and the fear of politicians afraid to take on Second Amendment activists. None considered that support for gun control has been declining, or that the legislation itself was deeply flawed.

    Again and again, President Obama noted that 90% of Americans, and a majority of National Rifle Association members, supported expanded background checks. The former constitutional law lecturer seemed to expect that that majority's will should be self-executing, ignoring the fact that constitutional rights like the Second Amendment exist precisely to protect minorities against majoritarian passions and presidential demagoguery.

    Indeed, while the president described the failure of the legislation as a failure of "Washington," it was also--and primarily--a failure of his administration. A White House operation and Obama campaign apparatus that is regarded as brutally effective ought to have been able to sell a proposal allegedly supported by 90% of the voting public.

    Yet persistent troubles in execution and failures of policy raise questions about whether Obama secretly preferred failure to success.

    His opponents, the president insisted, refused to make it more difficult for "dangerous criminals" to buy weapons--ignoring one of the core arguments of the other side, namely that dangerous criminals frequently ignore the law to obtain weapons, while law-abiding citizens bear the burden of new rules and restrictions. He reduced his opponents' motives to pure politics, accusing them of being afraid of being punished by an organized, determined minority.
    Rarely have Americans ever seen a president attack his opponents so viciously, expressing and evoking such visceral emotions--especially at a time of mourning. President Obama's tirade contrasted with his reserved, measured response to the Boston Marathon bombings, in which he urged Americans to speak and act with restraint. If this has been, as he claimed, "a pretty shameful day in Washington," the president's tantrum was the most shameful moment of all.
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    DEFEATED OBAMA RAGES: 'MEMORIES OF THESE CHILDREN DEMAND' MORE POWER FOR DEMOCRATS



    by BEN SHAPIRO 17 Apr 2013

    With the failure of the Democrats’ attempt to exploit the Newtown school shooting to press forward gun control measures, President Obama took to the microphones along with the relatives of Sandy Hook victims to demonize his opposition. This, of course, was his strategy all along: knowing that he did not have 60 votes in the Democrat-controlled Senate to pass his gun control legislation, he pressed forward anyway, hoping to paint Republicans as intransigent, immoral tools of the gun lobby who don’t care about dead children. After demonizing Republicans, Obama hopes, he can press Americans into voting Democrats back into power in the House of Representatives.

    On Wednesday afternoon, Obama played his part to perfection. Mark Barden, father of a first-grader murdered in Newtown, introduced him. Flanking Obama were other Newtown victims; Vice President Joe Biden, face creased in supposed emotional agony, his arm around the mother of a Sandy Hook victim; and former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who has been one of the lead advocate for gun control on behalf of the administration.

    “On behalf of the Sandy Hook parents, I would like to thank President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden,” said Mark Barden, father of a first-grader murdered in Newtown. “We will not be defeated. We are not defeated and we will not be defeated ….. I’d like to end by repeating the words by which the Sandy Hook promise begins: Our hearts are broken. Our spirit is not.”

    He then introduced President Obama, who blasted away in a carefully calculated and calibrated assault on gunowners, Republicans, and all those with the temerity to disagree on his gun control proposals. Lashing out with more emotion than he has on any issue of his presidency, Obama played up to the cameras, all the while using gun violence victims as a backdrop.

    Obama said that he had acted in response to the shooting of Congresswoman Gabby Giffords and Sandy Hook. “Families that had known unspeakable grief,” Obama said, reached out “to protect the lives of all children …. A few minutes ago, a minority in the Senate decided it wasn’t worth it.” Standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook has become rote for this president.

    “The American people are trying to figure out how can something have 90% support and nothing happen,” Obama raged. “Nobody could honestly claim that the package [Toomey and Manchin] put together infringed on our Second Amendment rights …. Their legislation showed respect for gunowners and it showed respect for the victims of gun violence. And Gabby Giffords, by the way, is both …. She supports these background checks.” Actually, opponents of the Toomey-Manchin bill rejected by the Senate have made their rationales clear repeatedly. It is President Obama who has failed utterly to provide evidence that would suggest that the bill would prevent gun violence in any material way. But no matter: the political show was on.

    Obama launched into an assault on the NRA. “The current leader of the NRA used to support these background checks …. But instead of supporting this compromise, the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. They claimed that it would claim some sort of Big Brother gun registry, even though the bill did the opposite. This legislation actually outlawed any registry … unfortunately, this pattern of spreading untruths about this legislation served a purpose.”

    Obama then ripped legislators who voted against Toomey-Manchin as tools of the gun lobby: feckless, spineless, and devoid of all logic. “Most of these Senators couldn’t offer any good reason why we wouldn’t want to make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to buy a gun. There were no coherent arguments why we wouldn’t do this. It came down to politics … They started looking for an excuse, any excuse to vote no.”

    Obama continued, “This didn’t make our kids safer. Victory for not doing something that 90% of Americans, 80% of Republicans, the vast majority of your constituents wanted to get done? It begs the question: who are we here to represent?”

    Then Obama turned to his own exploitation of victims of violence using guns. He defensively set up straw men and then wildly chopped them down. “A prop, somebody called them. Emotional blackmail, some outlets said. Are they serious? Do we really think that thousands of families … don’t have the right to weigh in on this issue? Do we think their emotions, their loss is not relevant to this debate?” Nobody has argued that victims don’t have the right to weigh in. But President Obama has used victims as backdrops, openly stated that those who disagree with him do not care about victims of gun violence, and put forward victims as the chief advocates for his policy prescriptions. He has indeed exploited tragedy. And he would do so here, too.

    All of this was setup for the coup de grace: a request for more power. Because, after all, Obama was never going to win this debate. He didn’t have the votes, he didn’t have the evidence, and he didn’t have a decent piece of legislation to propose. What he did have was unbridled faux moral indignation and a compliant press.

    But he needs more. He needs a majority in the House. And he asked for it. “So all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for Washington. But this effort is not over,” said Obama. “If this Congress refuses to listen … the real impact is going to have to come from the voters.”

    “The memories of these children demand [gun control],” Obama concluded.

    What he meant was obvious: the memories of dead children in Sandy Hook demands that voters give Obama more Senators and more Congresspeople. How convenient for him.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ess-conference



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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredrage View Post
    Some good news for a change!!
    Yes, it is and our next goal is to stop S.744. Not too long ago Alipac unleashed its fury on Washington, shutting the phone lines down, filling email boxes up, causing fax machines to run outta of paper and overload. We need to do the same thing this time around. Prepare yourselves. We must win this fight.
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