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    Senate won't vote on House-passed healthcare bill

    Senate won't vote on House-passed healthcare bill

    by Susan Ferrechio
    May 4, 2017, 2:59 PM

    Senate Republicans will write their own legislation that will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, but won't use it as a starting point. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

    Senate Republicans said Thursday they won't vote on the House-passed bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, but will write their own legislation instead.

    A Senate proposal is now being developed by a 12-member working group. It will attempt to incorporate elements of the House bill, senators said, but will not take up the House bill as a starting point and change it through the amendment process.

    "The safest thing to say is there will be a Senate bill, but it will look at what the House has done and see how much of that we can incorporate in a product that works for us in reconciliation," said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

    "We are going to draft a Senate bill," added Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. "That is what I've been told."

    The working group has been meeting for weeks, said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, a member of the group.

    "What we have to do is build a consensus among our conference and that is what the working group is designed to do," Cornyn said.

    "To get to a compromise we can agree to and then present it to the larger conference."

    Cornyn said there is "really no deadline" for the group to produce a bill. "We are just working toward getting 51 votes," he said.

    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., did not indicate how the Senate would act. "As Congress considers this legislation, the administration will continue working to deliver relief and stabilize health markets, and Congress will continue to act on legislation to provide more choices and freedom in healthcare decisions," he said.

    "Senate consideration will be scheduled following the completion of procedural and budgetary scorekeeping reviews," a top GOP aide added.

    The working group is made up of members of the three committees that have jurisdiction over healthcare: Finance, Budget and the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions panel.

    Cornyn said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who has co-authored her own Obamacare replacement measure, "has been an integral part of the discussions."

    Collins has written a proposal with Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La., that would allow states to keep Obamacare or provide an alternative that would entail auto-enrolling residents in a basic health insurance and pharmacy plan.

    Cornyn said talks so far have centered around what the House might do, amid some doubts that the House would ever be able to pass a bill.

    That changed Thursday, when House GOP lawmakers passed their Obamacare repeal and replace plan that allows states to request waivers for the Obamacare mandates and provides money and a high-risk pool for those with pre-existing conditions.

    "It was kind of a moot issue if the House wasn't going to be able to pass a bill, and now they have and I'm proud of them for doing it," Cornyn said. "Now it's up to us to pass a bill 51 senators can agree to."


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    That's fine. The reconciliation compliance is very important so it's important the bill the Senate votes on meets all of its Senate Budget Reconciliation Requirements. Just get it done, but repeal all the mandates, so we can move on to tax reform, so we can move on to bringing our jobs back.
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    This will take months back and forth hopefully they can get it right this time instead of rushing through like Obamacare. And for god sake take time to read the dam thing this time.

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    They actually had years to read the bill the House passed. This is the bill they passed in 2015, the same bill they introduced this session, then they had 2 amendments in March, weeks ago, and then a short 2 page amendment yesterday. They and their staffs have read and studied and understand the bill. The media has had the exact same amount of time. In this instance unlike Obamacare, the whole bill was readily available to everyone for years, the amendments for weeks, and the 2 pager about the additional $8 billion yesterday.

    The people who need to read the bill are the people in the media so they can stop lying about it.

    I do hope the Senate does a good job with their part, the main thing is to make sure it meets all the Budget Reconciliation requirements for it can pass with 51 votes. I guess Pence can be the tie-breaker, but on budget reconciliation bills, I don't know, the rules might be different. Hopefully not. I think Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will probably not be team players, that's just sense of them based on previous votes on confirmations and such. They're all wound up in "misogyny" issues instead of fixing our country, so we'll see what happens.

    There's 20 million Americans waiting for it pass so they can be free of these tax penalties they pay because they can't afford health insurance. The tax penalty of $800 to $2000 for a family may not seem like a lot to some people, but it's a lot when you don't have it. And these 20 million Americans are in this position because of 11 million people who purchase insurance on the individual market.

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