Thread: Suggested Policy to Replace illegal aliens with legal ones

The U.S. needs a reasoned policy of permitting legal entry into the U.S. while also returning unnwanted illegals to their country of origin.

There must be a political solution which takes advantage of Mexicos desire to have workers in the U.S. to help us to remove the unwanted millions of illegals that are already here .

The solution is : award a pre-defined (low number to start with) number of legal worker credits = 1 credit = 1 legal worker .
Additional credits can be awarded to any latin nation that aids the U.S. by passing useful immigration control legislation and assiting the U.S. in re-patriating unwanted illegals to their country of origin.

Basically the policy would be for the US to take an unwanted illegal of any national origin to the US southern border and ask Mexico to either escort the unwanted alien to their home town in Mexico or to their southern border and along the way partial credits and/or additional credits can be awarded to any countries assisting in the removal process.
There simply has to be an incentive for the latino nations to remove unwanted nationals of other countries - So ...
for instance .....
IF an unwanted Salvadoran is taken the the US/Mexico border Mexico would be awarded a parial worker credit and Salvador would be awarded a partial credit (.35 for Mexico ) and say (.25) for Salvador for their cooperation. .. and so on down the line of countries until the worker is finally repatriated to their home country.

Additional partial credits can be awarded to the home country for processing a criminal alien. In that way there is some additional incentive for receiving an unwanted criminal alien....


Anyway - The basic idea is a simple oone ...
I was hoping to start up a meaningful discussion on the topic - and perhaps garner more good ideas, etc...

I have already written to the president and the vice president on this idea and have received littel or no response ...

I am hoping that maybe some of the Scholars here would have some input or suggestions that might help to promote a similar idea - to our leaders - i have tried - alone and have met with little or no success.

We need to clean our country of all illegal aliens first and enforce our laws from border crossing to visa over stayers!!!

Then in a few years or decades of cleaning up all the messes that was caused by this then maybe we will permit more legal immigrants!!!

But right now our country permits more legal immigrants then every country combined per year! So a little scaling back wouldn't hurt to get our ducks in a row!

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smde,

I can't get past your first two assumptions.

The U.S. needs a reasoned policy of permitting legal entry into the U.S. while also returning unnwanted illegals to their country of origin.

There must be a political solution which takes advantage of Mexicos desire to have workers in the U.S. to help us to remove the unwanted millions of illegals that are already here .

The US has a reasoned policy for admissions. The US has a guestworker program. What the US needs is a way to easily deport and find illegal aliens that have gone out of status and are visa overstays. The President needs to enforce our existing immigration laws, not create new ones, to cover up the mess he has created.

There are jobs in Mexico. Lots of jobs. They do not have to come to America to work. That's just a myth.

Secondly, America does not need the illegal alien workers because our unemployment rate is not Zero. We don't need them. That's just another myth.

The President and Vice President are supplying the illegal labor for their fat cat business friends/campaign contrbutors or they own stock in their companies. Find a Republican in Congress that voted down the amnesty bill, you'll have better luck there.

Dixie

I have often thought the same thing. We are a nation of immigrants (way back) but mostly we are a nation of Americans. Absorbing immigrants of one culture/race throws off the balance in this culture. However allowing a percentage of immigrants from each country (say, 10%) gives us all a diversity and with so many cultures and languages, no one culture/race can monopolize the American culture. ...meaning Everyone must learn English to be successful here.

Originally Posted by Dixie

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smde,

I can't get past your first two assumptions.

The U.S. needs a reasoned policy of permitting legal entry into the U.S. while also returning unnwanted illegals to their country of origin.

There must be a political solution which takes advantage of Mexicos desire to have workers in the U.S. to help us to remove the unwanted millions of illegals that are already here .

The US has a reasoned policy for admissions. The US has a guestworker program. What the US needs is a way to easily deport and find illegal aliens that have gone out of status and are visa overstays. The President needs to enforce our existing immigration laws, not create new ones.

There are jobs in Mexico. Lots of jobs. They do not have to come to America to work. That's just a myth.

Secondly, America does not need the illegal alien workers because our unemployment rate is not Zero. We don't need them. That's just another myth.

Dixie

The fact is also American industry's have set up shops in Mexico and other nations so our jobs are being sold off to the lowest bidder! But right now the lowest bidder is China and now look what it caused to our toys, hygiene products, fish, pet foods, fruits and veges, and other unsafe products made by cheap laborers (almost slaves) and cheap inferior raw materials!!!

Our multinational corporate giants want to minimize there costs to almost nothing by destroying an entire class of people here in American to save a couple of bucks by enslaving third world countries citizens to horrible working conditions and well slave labor!!!

well - hmm - I hope that you haven't missed the fact that the whole idea of my suggestion is to come up with a way to help to remove some of the already here .... already illegal .... already unwanted..... and already a problem illegal aliens who are currently in this country .. and who . in my opinion pose a significant natioonal security risk -

Simply stopping all new immigration is a debatable notion and not really much of a solution for anything that I can think of actually .

My focus is on a specific topic and designed to address a measurable problem and to engender useful debate on the topic .

We need to clean up the mess we already have before we consider new immigrants and those new immigrants should come from European countries NOT south of the border,not India,not Haiti....It would be nice to welcome some emigrants who already speak English for a change !

So I say NO to your idea,in fact,I think ALL immigration should be halted for awhile and so does the Government Comptroller.

IF an unwanted Salvadoran is taken the the US/Mexico border Mexico would be awarded a parial worker credit and Salvador would be awarded a partial credit (.35 for Mexico ) and say (.25) for Salvador for their cooperation. .. and so on down the line of countries until the worker is finally repatriated to their home country.

Welcome Smde!
This is an interesting hypothesis, but why the credit difference between Mexicans and Salvadorians? The credit amount should be the same for ANY illegal alien.

If this were to be enacted, there should be a statement to include: "Any violation of any foreign government in promoting illegal immigrants to migrate illegally, will exempt that nation from this program."
It's no secret that Mexico prints literature and helps their people come here illegally.

I am also having a hard time with your first statement, "There must be a political solution which takes advantage of Mexicos desire to have workers in the U.S. to help us to remove the unwanted millions of illegals that are already here . " because American workers should be considered over illegals in ANY job.

We currently many guest worker programs in place, many of which have an unlimited cap, and this does include the H1-B AG visa.
The reason corporate farms are not using these visas is because they would be required to put up housing and health insurance for their workers and corporate farms--as is much of corporate America--are simply too greedy to do so.
Contrary to MSM belief, the immigration system isn't broken, the laws just simply haven't been enforced.

welcome smde.

I just find it hard to swallow that we should "reward" countries for doing their job. What would stop them from making that some sort business of shipping their unwanted here in order to get more points for taking them back after they've committed more crimes here?

We do not NEED these people. We do not have a shortage of people to do the work. The so called un-employment rate only counts those people who are getting un-employment checks........not all the people looking for work.

To be honest......I'm one that is fed-up with trying to think of any plan for these people. Abide by the laws written and enforce them. I would much rather deal with any of the fall-out for them being deported than to deal with the continuing chaos there presence here has caused.

Come here legally....there's TONS of guest worker plans and learn English. Not much to ask of anyone.

Right, there should be NO PLAN for illegals at all!!! The plan is enforcing our laws! The real plan should be is to get America back on track again!!!