Thread: Cost of Illegals To Floridians!!

For anyone who lives in Florida, you better read this!

Costs of Illegal Immigration to Floridians: Executive Summary (Revised 10/05)


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Analysis of the latest Census data indicates Florida’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers nearly two billion dollars per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated taxes collected from illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to nearly one billion dollars per year. The annual fiscal burden amounts to about $315 per Florida household headed by a native-born resident.

This analysis looks specifically at the costs to the state for education, health care and incarceration resulting from illegal immigration. These three are the largest cost areas, and they are the same three areas analyzed in a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which provides a useful baseline for comparison a decade later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.

There are other significant costs associated with illegal immigration, and federal and state officials should take these into account as well. Even without accounting for all of the numerous areas in which costs associated with illegal immigration are being incurred by Florida taxpayers, the program areas analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.

The nearly two billion dollars in costs incurred by Florida taxpayers annually result from outlays in the following areas:

Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in Florida and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Floridians spend more than $1.5 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. About 8.7 percent of the K-12 public school students in Florida are children of illegal aliens.


Health Care. Taxpayer-funded, unreimbursed medical outlays for health care provided to the state’s illegal alien population amount to about $165 million a year.


Incarceration. The uncompensated cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in Florida’s state and county prisons amounts to about $155 million a year (not including local jail detention costs or related law enforcement and judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration).
State and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments can generously be estimated at about $910 million per year.

The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost areas. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas such as special English instruction, welfare programs used by the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were also calculated.

I could have guessed this. I really did not need to read it. More of my tax money, my children's future down the drain to people who do not appreciate it, definitely do not deserve it, and in the end they very well might get my country too. It is truly disgusting.

Florida is no vacation paradise. More like a sore thumb!

There are homes for sale down here all over the place. People can't afford the taxes which have shot up so high. Some choose to rent their homes out I guess, and then guess what happens to neighborhoods, most especially if they don't care who they rent to? In some instances, people have rented villas, apartments, etc., which have now turned into condos. So, a lot of people can't afford to buy the "condo" they've lived in for years and they move into some of these stick farms which are sprouting continuously. Oh and we need to build schools. More and more schools.
Looking at the children waiting for the school bus here, it's like looking at the United Nations.

I could go on, but I'll spare you.


Suffice it to say, Florida isn't what it's cracked up to be. If the hurricanes don't get us, the illegals might. If we can survive another four years, then we're outta here! There is no utopia or shangrila, but there's gotta be something better than this!

Yup, sure is a problem down here. And all our stores are loaded with them, and the beaches etc. They are all over the place working on houses here in Charlotte county. Bill and I were saying that we are going to start going to a fruit/veg stand and get a hold of a farmer and buy a cow/pig/chicken, well not a whole one for just the two of us and not get anything that may be picked or slaughtered by an illegal. We do have two meat markets in town and I may check that out to see if they do their own meat. Makes me laugh about the cheap labor in the fields, yeah right not when one orange is .50 and today at Publix a tiny little green pepper was 1.49. Come next Feb a garden goes back in, missed this year, probably would have lost it all anyway with the drought we had. Love salad but am not buying any lettuce at least not from the stores, let it rot in the stores before I will help support an illegal picker. Maybe we should boycott lettuce from the stores like Cesar Chavez did in the fields in 1972. Instead of fightning for the rights of the farm workers like he did, we can fight for the rights of Americans by not buying it.

Originally Posted by swtncgram

Yup, sure is a problem down here. And all our stores are loaded with them, and the beaches etc. They are all over the place working on houses here in Charlotte county. Bill and I were saying that we are going to start going to a fruit/veg stand and get a hold of a farmer and buy a cow/pig/chicken, well not a whole one for just the two of us and not get anything that may be picked or slaughtered by an illegal. We do have two meat markets in town and I may check that out to see if they do their own meat. Makes me laugh about the cheap labor in the fields, yeah right not when one orange is .50 and today at Publix a tiny little green pepper was 1.49. Come next Feb a garden goes back in, missed this year, probably would have lost it all anyway with the drought we had. Love salad but am not buying any lettuce at least not from the stores, let it rot in the stores before I will help support an illegal picker. Maybe we should boycott lettuce from the stores like Cesar Chavez did in the fields in 1972. Instead of fightning for the rights of the farm workers like he did, we can fight for the rights of Americans by not buying it.

Yep .. you're on the right track. Having been a past farmerette, there is nothing like home grown. Can it, freeze it, make pickles, jams, jellies, you name it. Home grown pig isn't bad either. Better than any pork that can be bought in any store, and you know it hasn't been fed any kind of meat scraps.

Two problems down here which I see right off the bat: #1 I'd have to buy tons of good soil. We happen to have a sand pit! #2 Will they allow you to water or will they not?

breezy, don't I know that, had a farm up in Wisconsin, friends who had pigs, you got your pigs from them, same goes for beef, we had chickens, geese, turkeys, ducks and sheep. And ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh the veggies, I canned, and froze, had about 5 acres of a personal garden for our own use. Had apple orchards, plums, berries of all kinds, pears, rhubarb, asparagus, grapes, really pretty much self sufficent, and no chemicals. I cried when I had to buy that stuff in a store for the first time. Miss it, but oh sooooooooooooo much work, and so cold and snowy.
When the kids came for Easter, they almost passed out when they saw the prices of our veggies and fruit, could not beleive it is so high, said it was cheaper in Wisconsin....everytime I go to the store, I say, "in Florida?" and I get a look that could kill from produce people.Of course it has lots to do with the middle man, but if these people are cheap labor, that middle man must be some millionaire.
Don't get me wrong, we love Florida, but it is killing us, if it is hard for young working people, what do you think it is for us ancients?
We had orange, and lots of other fruit trees, was so nice, so good, and just go outside and pick, fresh off the tree oj can't be beat, that was until good old Charlie took everyone of our trees. Bill use to laugh and call it a citrus forest, now we just planted a couple new ones not ready to bear fruit yet. Oh yeah we did have one papaya left, but an illegal worker that our contractor hired drove over it with a backhole.

Haven't been here long enough to say I love it. For some reason though, I did not part with my "american canner." Perhaps I have hopes. Yes it's hard work. However, the pain from hard work gives some satisfaction. and a good night sleep. The pain from the current illegal invasion gives neither.

I don't know where our Sen. Mel Martinez parks his butt when down here, but if we're here long enough ... we're voting against him.

He was on the floor the other day, braggin' about his father & mother coming here. He totally evaded, forgot to mention, or purposely neglegected to say whether his folks were legal or illegal. Which poses another question in my mind, is he our anchor baby senator?

Ancient? Not yet.

I have been in Florida my entire life - 37 years of it, an original Florida native born and raised in Ft. Lauderdale. It has changed dramatically since I was a kid. It was actually very nice here when I was a kid but had to leave South Florida several years ago, just could not stand it anymore. Moved about 4 counties north. I yell at my parents at least a couple time a year for putting me here. I will not leave until the clan does though. All of the kids (5 of us) and grandchildren gather at Mom and Dad's every Sunday. I keep trying to convince everyone to pull up stakes and get out of here but no luck so far.

Mel is not an anchor baby, I do not think. Wasn't he part of the Cuban refugee boat lift? Maybe someone can answer that.

Mel Martinez (1947-)
http://www.lasculturas.com/aa/bio/bioMelMartinez.htm

Mel Martinez was selected to be Secretary for the US Department of Housing and Urban Development during George W. Bush's first term as president. During that term, he campaigned successfully to become a Senator representing Florida.

He was born in Cuba in 1947. At the age of 15, he and his brother were evacuated from Cuba with other children during Operation Pedro Pan (Peter Pan). Operation Pedro Pan was an operation organized by the Catholic Church and supported by the U.S. government that flew over 14,000 children from Cuba to the United States before the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 ended all travel. His parents made the decision to send them to the United States after such hair-raising events as seeing others shout chants like "kill them, they're Catholic" at the children.

With his parents still in Cuba and knowing very little English, Mel and his little brother first started life in the United States at Camp Matecumbe followed by another military Camp in Jacksonville, Florida. In Orlando, Walter and Eileen Young took them into their home for two years. Jim and June Berkmeyer would adopt them in for two years after that.

Finally, during the "Freedom Flights" in 1966, the Martinez parents were reunited with their children in the United States. Mel graduated from the Florida State University College of Law in 1973 and has been active participant in the community. He took a public stance during the Elian Gonzalez conflict, asserting that Elian Gonzalez should be given the chance to remain in the United States. He was elected Orange County Chairman in 1998, where he currently serves until he takes his place at HUD. He served as Chairman of Governor Jeb Bush's Growth Management Study Commission as well as Chairman of the Board of the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority and on the Orlando/Orange County Expressway Authority. This year, he also had the opportunity to serve Florida as elector in the Electoral College, casting one of the official votes for George. W. Bush in the 2000 elections.

Education

Florida State University Law School - J.D., 1973
Florida State University - B.A., 1969
Orlando Junior College - A.A., 1967
Bishop Moore High School - 1964
Public Service
Board of Directors, United American Bank
Chairman, The Alliance
President, Orlando Utilities Commission
Board of Trustees, United Arts
Chairman, Orlando Housing Authority
Vice President, Catholic Social Services
Coach, Delaney Park Little League
Camp Counselor, Camp WEWA

Elsewhere on the Web:

Mel Martinez for Senator
His campaign site for the Florida election.

Housing and Urban Development
Official Site of HUD.