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    Senior Member vmonkey56's Avatar
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    No to anchor babies and illegal parents

    But China and Mexico have forms of police state.

    Even though all illegal criminal need to be deported, the end point is the governments wants what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Question . Do ya'll really think "Now" is a good time for review ? With an Ex-ACLU leader sitting on the Court ?

    who is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Question . Do ya'll really think "Now" is a good time for review ? With an Ex-ACLU leader sitting on the Court ?
    YES!! I THINK SO. ESPECIALLY SINCE TODAY, 81% OF AMERICANS ARE FED UP WITH THIS.

    NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME.

    Any suggestions? Who is this ex-ALCU person you know?
    PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH. PRESS 2 FOR DEPORTATION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Question . Do ya'll really think "Now" is a good time for review ? With an Ex-ACLU leader sitting on the Court ?
    They won't do anything anyway...
    If Palestine puts down their guns, there will be peace.
    If Israel puts down their guns there will be no more Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone_Patriot
    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Question . Do ya'll really think "Now" is a good time for review ? With an Ex-ACLU leader sitting on the Court ?

    who is that?
    Ruth Bader Ginzburg

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    I read, don';t have a link, that Zoe Lofgren, is trying to modify visas so that more green cards are available.

    We really must turn to the courts for this whole issue is that is ultimately where it winds up.

    Too many immigrants go court shopping to the 9th Circuit where they are counting on a favorable ruling.

    If we try to re-litigate the 14th Amendment it MUST NOT BE in a state where an appeal could go to the 9th Circuit.

    Also I think a case can be made environmentally that too many immigrants cause global warming.

    But I really want to see a state take up a fight agains the original 19th century ruling. So we must hope that Obama does not win and appoint liberal judges like Ginzburg to the Court.

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    Natural Persons

    The 14th Amendment definitely needs to be amended - to replace the term "persons" with "natural persons." The former is what gives immortal corporations like Hilton, McDonalds, Tyson et al equal rights as bleeding humans as far as political speech, hence our inability to compete with multinational shareholders in Japan, England, Iran, Venezuela...

    Thom Hartmann wrote an excellent book "Unequal Protection" detailing the railroads' chicanery in corrupting the 14th Amendment in the 19th Century, and the aftermath suppresses American citizens political power to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judyweller
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone_Patriot
    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    Question . Do ya'll really think "Now" is a good time for review ? With an Ex-ACLU leader sitting on the Court ?

    who is that?
    Ruth Bader Ginzburg

    thanks, i didn't know that.

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    There is a couple House of Reps. bills which were introduced in 2007.

    H.R. 1940 Intro by Nathan Deal,GA

    4/19/2007.It has 103 co-sponsors and is

    buried in the Immigration &

    Citizenship sub committee since 5/4/2007.

    Ron Paul introduced a bill last year too but I don't have the H.R. number.

    I have emailed my Rep. to co-sign but hasn't happened.Guess I will try again since he is up for re-election this year.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    TOO BAD...

    TOO BAD ya'll didn't get behind RON PAUL...that was part of his platform to amend the 14th amendment and get rid of the birthright citizenship. Oh well..too late now.

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