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Of course, the vast majority of illegal aliens do not now, nor will they ever make enough money to even qualify for income taxes, they will simply join the 45 percent of Americans who currently pay nothing and our National Debt will continue to soar.

For every low-skilled worker U.S. citizens pay $20,000 in taxes in benefits and entitlements.

Factor the low-skilled, 8th grade education illegal aliens + their families that will enter the USA through chain migration.

Good-bye USA.

The real reason Obama wants to grant the mostly Hispanic population amnesty is to secure the vote that they would then have as American citizens. Obama believes that doing so would assure Democratic control of the White House and Congress for the next several generations.

The real reason is much more sinister.

It is to destroy this country by ensuring an end to the United States Constitution by an invasion of individuals with no desire to assimilate.

They will create a massive majority taking over our political process under the direction of radical Hispanic organizations.

No more USA.

Some of you may remember 5 years ago when I posted that I believed there was 50 million illegal aliens in the US including their offspring. Today the number would be 60 to 70 million just as the article claims.

Some of you may remember 5 years ago when I posted that I believed there was 50 million illegal aliens in the US including their offspring. Today the number would be 60 to 70 million just as the article claims.

And if only one fourth of them were employed, and were deported, the 10 to 15 million jobs freed up could go to unemployed of US citizens, which would drop unemployment to within normal limits, probably to full employment levels.

Also, I don't buy the notion that Hispanics make up the large majority or that all of these illegals are doing low paying jobs. Roughly 40% of the illegals came here legally on visas, many from India, Asia, Western Europe, Eastern Europe and Australia. The visas expired, but they did not. Many of these jobs were in high tech (Microsoft and Intel are two of the bigger users) as well as construction, nursing and health care, and transportation. While the majority may be Hispanic, I do not believe it is overwhelmingly so. I also believe if the top 10 to 15 million job holders were deported, over half the jobs would be in the 35K to 40K range and up, not at the 20 K level. They could be in that upper range and still be 20 per cent or more lower than the standard rate for the work they are doing, which is why Microsoft, Intel, and the Junior Chamber of Commerce are the biggest advocates for the visa progam as well as open borders.

4th horseman you are so right Gates wanted unlimited visa's so he could bring as many people from India as he wanted saying that he can't get qualitity workers here. What BS. Did you ever call any of these so called "call centers" most don't even speak enough English to understand what your problem is! All thes Corporate greed, Ceo's who take millions yet send their neighbor's job abroad and of course special interest groups who want to take over our country. Don't politicians realize that if amnesty is given that illegals will vote for their own so they will lose their job and we will have no voice at all! Americans should be in the streets but they now have to work two or three jobs to support their families because the illegals have brought wages to an all time low. Illegals are not in the fields anymore like Washington says. They are in the higher paying roofing, construction, dry wall, framing houses and landscaping.
Sure they start out in the fields then get a little English go to fast foods and on to bigger and better jobs. That's why we always need farm workers cause no one stays. Remember the job you save may be your own!

Originally Posted by 4thHorseman

Some of you may remember 5 years ago when I posted that I believed there was 50 million illegal aliens in the US including their offspring. Today the number would be 60 to 70 million just as the article claims.

And if only one fourth of them were employed, and were deported, the 10 to 15 million jobs freed up could go to unemployed of US citizens, which would drop unemployment to within normal limits, probably to full employment levels.

Also, I don't buy the notion that Hispanics make up the large majority or that all of these illegals are doing low paying jobs. Roughly 40% of the illegals came here legally on visas, many from India, Asia, Western Europe, Eastern Europe and Australia. The visas expired, but they did not. Many of these jobs were in high tech (Microsoft and Intel are two of the bigger users) as well as construction, nursing and health care, and transportation. While the majority may be Hispanic, I do not believe it is overwhelmingly so. I also believe if the top 10 to 15 million job holders were deported, over half the jobs would be in the 35K to 40K range and up, not at the 20 K level. They could be in that upper range and still be 20 per cent or more lower than the standard rate for the work they are doing, which is why Microsoft, Intel, and the Junior Chamber of Commerce are the biggest advocates for the visa progam as well as open borders.

I think you're right about that, although the Pew Hispanic Center, the entity whose numbers all these politicians rely upon, why I don't know since their numbers are clearly wrong, claim that 57% of illegal aliens are from Mexico and another 24% are from Latin American countries, based on the 11 million the Pew Hispanic Center "counts". Since they're off by at least 50 million in my opinion, there are no figures on the uncounted illegal aliens or their country of origin, so I think you've got a good handle on the reality of where they're coming from. I've always thought they were coming from every nation in the world and like you with a majority from Hispanic -speaking and Latin American countries, simply because they can just walk or drive in, the others are entering legally and not leaving when they're supposed to or pursuing the more difficult entries on boats and planes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_im ... ted_States

The millions of citizen anchor children should be included in any estimation of illegals in this country.

Originally Posted by hattiecat

The millions of citizen anchor children should be included in any estimation of illegals in this country.

Absolutely. I agree 100% and included them in my 50 million estimate 5 years ago from studying our population growth and birth rates. That's when I knew we were in a heap of do-do, totally infiltrated and completely surrounded.