Thread: Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

CBS News June 23, 2017, 8:16 AM
Last Updated Jun 23, 2017 11:31 AM EDT

A report Friday morning claims Russian President Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Donald Trump president.

According to a Washington Post investigation, former President Obama received a secret CIA report in August.

That report "captured Putin's specific instructions on the operation's audacious objectives - defeat or at least damage the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton."

CBS News confirmed last year that U.S. intelligence officials knew that the Russian government operation to interfere in the U.S. election had been approved by Putin himself, but they were reluctant to reveal how much they knew out of concern that sources and methods could be compromised, CBS News justice and homeland security correspondent Jeff Pegues reports.

The Post reports that U.S. intelligence agencies had sourcing deep inside the Russian government capturing Putin's direct instructions in the operation.

The Post also reports that before he left office Mr. Obama set in motion a secret program that authorized the deployment of "implants" in Russian networks - digital bombs that could be triggered in a retaliatory cyberstrike in the event of Moscow aggression - and that it would be up to President Trump to decide to use the capability.

CBS News confirmed that Obama officials felt that their effort to expel Russian diplomats in retaliation was undermined by the incoming administration.

Determining whether that is true is part of the ongoing investigations. CBS News has confirmed that congressional investigators are looking into whether Trump campaign associates obtained information from hacked voter databases during the election.

So far there is no evidence of that, but it is a sign that the congressional investigations are expanding.

So? It's obvious why Putin would prefer Trump over Clinton. The majority in 30 states of the United STates preferred Trump over Clinton. Trump made it clear during the campaign he wants a better relationship with Russia. Why wouldn't Russians and their leaders want that as well? I don't think anyone in this country would need a deep inside the Kremlin mole to figure out that the Russian people supported Trump because Trump wanted to improve our relationship in ways that would benefit our country as well as theirs.

Honestly, until the 2016 election I had no idea how Anti-Russia the DemoQuacks really are. Makes you wonder why Hillary approved Russians with "close ties to the Kremlin" to buy 20% of our uranium deposits, because that sure sounds like "to Russia with love"to me, which then raises the question why would Putin not want to continue that cozy relationship with Clinton? All he had to do for her was find someone to make a big fat donation to the Clinton Foundation and hire Bill to make a speech and she would have sold them the Lincoln Memorial.

Which then raises the question, why is the CIA spending its time on political gossip? If Russia really wanted to mess with US, they would involve themselves not in the White House but in the Congress and bump those characters McCain and Graham who wake up every day with one objective to Hate on Putin. Why don't they "meddle" in those elections? They'd get a lot more bang for their byte if they did.

Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

Originally Posted by Judy

So? . . .

Foreign intervention in any U.S. election is ILLEGAL.

Trump: Obama 'did nothing' about Russia election meddling

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Vladimir Putin gave direct instructions to help elect Trump, report says

Foreign intervention in any U.S. election is ILLEGAL.

Do you have a statute? I'm not aware of any law about that, any statute about that, in fact, I've never heard of this before.

What is the Law on Foreign Influence in US Elections?



By workingwords
Wednesday Dec 14, 2016 · 2:36 PM PST
12 Comments (12 New)

We’ve been hearing a lot about Russian hacking of Democratic (and perhaps Republican) email — with the apparent intent to influence the US election. Recently, US intelligence services were reported to have presented evidence of this. In response, some are proposing this information be provided to members of the Electoral College before they cast their votes.

Others have suggested postponing the Electoral College vote until a Congressional investigation takes place.

These kinds of proposals beg the question whether the Russian hacking and/or intent to influence the US election are illegal under existing law.

(This may be a tricky question as other countries may object to a US law against foreign influence in US elections — unless the US definitively ends US efforts to influence other nations.)

I don’t claim to know the answer about US law, but it’s worth some thought.

If there is no existing law against foreign hacking of US email accounts and/or influence in US elections, should there be? Why isn’t there?

What is reasonable for the Electoral College or Congressional investigators to do if nothing illegal was done?

If it isn’t illegal, why don’t the Democrats get someone to hack the Republicans?

If it is illegal to hack email and/or for foreign countries to influence US elections, will charges be filed before Jan. 20? If these are illegal and if there is proof that Trump made statements in favor of those crimes, what crimes can he be prosecuted for?

There are times when the American public is told charges are not filed and trials not held because the evidence is from intelligence sources which might be compromised in a trial.. Would this be a valid reason for not taking legal action against criminals who changed who the US president was?

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...n-US-Elections

No federal election crime occurred in connection with the Russians, JD2. Did Russia want Trump to win? Probably, why wouldn't they? Trump wanted to improve our relationship to end problems in Syria, North Korea and Iran. Trump also wanted to open up better trade with Russia in ways that benefit our country and theirs. Trump wants more support to end this world-wide migration and refugee mess usually caused by civil war conflicts, most of them apparently started by the United States INTEL community. So there is nothing "criminal" or "interventionist" about Russia helping Trump if they did. I think they were pulling for him in certain circles, they made soft but rather positive and hopeful comments about Trump, but that was guided by his statements about them and a better relationship, did they have spies searching for information, well, duh, same was we do. Did they have US citizens of Russian descent or legal Russian immigrants who also wanted a new and improved relationship with Russia to support Trump? Possibly, why wouldn't they?

Did they hack the DNC computer? No, they didn't. I'd bet my last dollar that if anyone gained unauthorized access to the DNC computer, it was the FBI. That's just my personal opinion. I think someone in the DNC, downloaded the DNC emails released to WikiLeaks, the FBI saw it while they were surveilling the system, and that's what prompted the FBI agent to pop up at DNC headquarters asking the DNC, "have you been hacked" and the DNC says "uh what, not that we know of."

Absolutely none of this Russia story makes any sense. There's no evidence, no proof, no nothing but these phony leaks from the INTEL community. I mean the CIA has just leaked a report that some US spy "deep inside the Kremlin" has reported that Putin wanted Russia to help elect Trump. Now I wonder how many people who were in that room are not in jeopardy for spying? If Putin said it, he'll know when it was and who was there. Seth Rich has been murdered over this, I believe, so how many more people's lives do you really want to compromise with INTEL leaks to try to prove Trump is a crook and was in cahoots with the Russians to win his election, that even his haters admit didn't change a vote. Hillary won the popular vote, she was winning in every nationwide poll by 10% or more points, the polls were fake and the methodology rigged to show that lead, but everybody believed it except a few of US who bothered to read the methodologies of the polls that were overweighted with Democrats by oh guess what 10 to 15 percent more DemoQuacks than exist in our electorate.

I don't believe the INTEL report from August is INTEL. Anyone with two live brain cells still connected would assume that Putin would want Trump to win the election because of Trump's Agenda to improve relations with Russia. You don't need an August CIA "INTEL" report from "deep inside the Kremlin" to know that, any hung-over drunk who woke up in the morning with Putin on the mind would say "hey, I think Putin will want Trump to win the election." Just like Nigel Farage wanted to help Trump win the election. Just like a lot of foreign leaders wanted Trump to win the election. They wanted Trump to win the election because they're fed up with terrorism crap, unwanted immigration BS, UN influence in their countries, EU influence in their countries, civil wars and government coups going on all over the world that interrupt business, peace and secure borders and ... globalism. There are other leaders who are in on the globalism crap, they want open borders, free trade deals and socialism that debilitate the United States. They of course wanted to help elect Hillary Clinton.

This idea that a foreign nation can't express a view on a US election, have an opinion, or try to help one candidate versus another in their own self-interest is a ..... HOAX, just like Trump said.

Federal Prosecution of Election Offenses - Seventh Edition - May 2007

That 344-page PDF is the Justice Department manual for prosecuting Federal election crimes, in excruciating detail.

If there is no existing law against foreign hacking of US email accounts and/or influence in US elections, should there be? Why isn’t there?

What is reasonable for the Electoral College or Congressional investigators to do if nothing illegal was done?

If it isn’t illegal, why don’t the Democrats get someone to hack the Republicans?

If it isn’t illegal, why don’t the Republicans get someone to hack the Democrats?

Because Republicans prefer to just hold really great fun RALLIES and win the votes of the people on election day. It's a lot more fun and it sticks.

But if you want to play this stupid game, here's a back at you:

If it isn't illegal, why didn't the DemoQuacks hack the Republicans and steal Trump's emails?