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    Trump caves on wall

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    4/30/17

    (CNN)Bipartisan congressional negotiators reached a critical agreement late Sunday on a massive spending bill that if approved by the House and Senate would fund the government through the end of September, senior aides from both parties told CNN.

    The plan would add billions for the Pentagon and border security but would not provide any money for President Donald Trump's promised border wall with Mexico...

    Trump's demand for the border wall down payment was rejected by Democrats. They decried the controversial project -- and key Trump campaign promise -- as immoral and premature since Trump has not detailed plans for building the multibillion dollar wall he had vowed Mexico would pay for anyway.

    Talks were also stalled over a threat by Trump to cut off Obamacare subsidies paid to insurance companies to reduce the out-of-pocket expenses of some lower-income users of the Affordable Care Act, but Trump backed off that demand in the face of harsh criticism from Democrats.

    Full story here:http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/30/politi...-negotiations/

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    I for one am glad Trump snared another $1.4 billion early funding for border security, specifically to fund more BP Agents, ICE agents, and more Immigration Judges. Plus I think there's some equipment in there, too. So I'm good with what Trump got out of the CR supplemental funding. I wish he could have also gotten the additional $1.6 for the 62 miles of wall needed in the San Diego and Rio Grande Valley Sectors, but he'll get that in September with other wall funding.

    For the wall funding, we need a plan that includes how we're billing Mexico on trade, remittances and so forth to pay for it. How Mexico is paying for it needs to be part of the wall funding bill seems to me. Most Republicans probably don't care how its paid for, I don't anyway, but the campaign promise was Mexico will pay for it, so for that reason I think it should all be part of one bill in the regular appropriation process.
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    The actual title of the CNN article is:

    Congressional negotiators reach deal on government funding through September

    By Manu Raju and Ted Barrett, CNN
    Updated 10:34 PM ET, Sun April 30, 2017
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/30/politi...-negotiations/
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    We want a real wall (or the double-layered fence that was promised back in 2006), not detention beds, drones and "surveillance technologies" etc.

    Come September, I won't be surprised if Trump caves again and has another excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I for one am glad Trump snared another $1.4 billion early funding for border security, specifically to fund more BP Agents, ICE agents, and more Immigration Judges. Plus I think there's some equipment in there, too. So I'm good with what Trump got out of the CR supplemental funding. I wish he could have also gotten the additional $1.6 for the 62 miles of wall needed in the San Diego and Rio Grande Valley Sectors, but he'll get that in September with other wall funding.

    For the wall funding, we need a plan that includes how we're billing Mexico on trade, remittances and so forth to pay for it. How Mexico is paying for it needs to be part of the wall funding bill seems to me. Most Republicans probably don't care how its paid for, I don't anyway, but the campaign promise was Mexico will pay for it, so for that reason I think it should all be part of one bill in the regular appropriation process.
    He has not "snared" anything yet. The budget has not been signed.

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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    I for one am glad Trump snared another $1.4 billion early funding for border security, specifically to fund more BP Agents, ICE agents, and more Immigration Judges. Plus I think there's some equipment in there, too.
    That doesn't jive with the article you recently posted:

    Trump will get $1.5 billion for border security, but it can’t be used for the border wall or additional Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, according to one congressional aide. There are also no new restrictions on money going to so-called sanctuary cities that don’t fully enforce federal immigration laws.
    https://www.alipac.us/f9/congress-in...rities-346613/

    Obviously none of the money can go for new ICE agents.
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    "We don't expect there will ever be a wall," said William Gheen, founder of the Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee. "We think that he lied to all of us."

    Immigration Hawks Blast Border Wall Retreat


    Border-security advocates warn iconic pledge a symbol of Trump's ability to get things done.


    @ Congress Inks Spending Deal That Jettisons Trump Priorities
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Judy wrote (excerpt):



    That doesn't jive with the article you recently posted:



    https://www.alipac.us/f9/congress-in...rities-346613/

    Obviously none of the money can go for new ICE agents.
    That's right. The Dems restricted the border security money so that none of it can be used for the wall or for more ICE agents. Bloomberg posted that fact in their article that I posted this morning.
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    trump needs to be informed, he need not talk further @ an 8yr presidency if he can't come close to his promises we voted for.

    We want deportation of all illegals and central american "fear" border crossers. Get them off our $$$$backs. We want E-verify IMMEDIATELY!

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