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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    HOW ABOUT THE "LIE" TO PUT ALL REFUGEES IN SAFE ZONE ON THEIR SOIL.

    DO NOT FLY MORE IN...SEND THEM OUT!

    THEY CANNOT STAY FOREVER! MORE BACK DOOR AMNESTY!

    PUT THEM TO WORK BUILDING VILLAGES ON THEIR SOIL, THEY CAN OPEN BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND MEDICAL FACILITIES WITH THEIR OWN BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS!

    START DEPORTING THEM AND DEFUND REFUGEES, TPS AND ASYLUM PROGRAMS!

    TAKE THEIR OIL MONEY TO PAY FOR IT!
    Safe Zones in Syria

    Russia, Iran, and Turkey agreed Thursday to set them up, despite criticism from some Syrian rebels.

    Aria Bendix
    May 4, 2017


    Russia, Iran, and Turkey have agreed to a memorandum establishing four safe zones across the north, central, and southern parts of Syria, constituting a major advancement in the nation’s ongoing civil war. Russia released the memorandum Thursday at peace talks in Astana, Kazakhstan. Russia and Iran are allied with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, while Turkey is allied with some of the rebel groups fighting against Assad. By signing a memorandum, the three nations aim to establish a cease-fire that would mitigate conflict between Assad’s government forces and insurgent groups.

    In theory, safe zones offer refuge and humanitarian aid to displaced persons fleeing violence, though it is uncertain how the three nations expect to monitor the newly established zones. A safe-zone strategy has garnered criticism in the past for serving as a band-aid solution to the refugee crisis while failing to address the root of the Syrian conflict. Historically, safe zones have even become targets for increased violence. With Russia and the Assad government capable of intervening militarily at any given moment, many fear a “safe zone” designation carries little weight. Since the start of the Syrian conflict in May 2011, the Assad government has violated numerous cease-fire agreements.

    As president, Barack Obama opposed the use of safe zones due, in part, to the war’s unpredictable nature. President Trump, however, has frequently voiced his support for the strategy.

    On Thursday, U.N. Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura referred to the memorandum as an “important, promising, positive step in the right direction,” though not everyone involved in the peace talks agreed with this statement. Reuters reports that representatives from the armed Syrian opposition angrily stormed out of the room in response to the memorandum. In a statement, Osama Abu Zeid, a rebel group spokesman who was present at the talks in Astana, criticized safe zones for failing to guarantee “the unity of the Syrian territory.” Zeid also dissented to Iran’s participation in the memorandum, calling the nation and the pro-Assad militias it supports “aggressors.”

    Russian negotiator Aleksandr Lavrentyev shared a more positive view, informing Russian media that the nation will be sending observers to the newly created safe zones. Lavrentyev also expressed a desire to “work more closely” with the United States and Saudi Arabia to achieve peace in the region. Still, his language incited speculation regarding the terms of the memorandum.

    At a news conference, Lavrentyev said the Assad government would honor the memorandum, which becomes effective on Saturday, so long as rebel groups did not carry out attacks in the four safe zones. At the same conference, Lavrentyev said the Syrian Air Force would avoid the zones. According to the New York Times, critics viewed Lavrentyev’s comments as a “loophole that allows violations committed by Mr. Assad’s side.”

    In a statement, the U.S. State Department, which was represented at the talks by Acting Assistant Secretary Stuart Jones, said: “We appreciate the efforts of Turkey and the Russian Federation to pursue this agreement and have encouraged the Syrian opposition to participate actively in the discussions despite the difficult conditions on the ground.” The statement added: “We continue to have concerns about the Astana agreement, including the involvement of Iran as a so-called ‘guarantor.’ Iran’s activities in Syria have only contributed to the violence, not stopped it, and Iran’s unquestioning support for the Assad regime has perpetuated the misery of ordinary Syrians.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/news/arc...-syria/525486/
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    GOOD JUDY!

    NOW TRUMP NEEDS TO START LOADING THEM UP AND SEND THEM HOME!

    THEY CAN REUNITE WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND GET TO WORK BUILDING THEIR OWN VILLAGES!

    GET THEM OFF OUR WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS AND MEDICAL CARE!

    DO NOT SHIP MORE IN!

    WE WANT THEM SHIPPED OUT AND SET A QUOTA AND GET THEM OUT!

    TAKE THEIR OIL TO PAY FOR IT!
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    TO BECOME AN AMERICAN YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR VALUES ...NOT YOUR LOCATION

    STAY HOME AND BUILD AMERICA ON YOUR SOIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    GOOD JUDY!

    NOW TRUMP NEEDS TO START LOADING THEM UP AND SEND THEM HOME!

    THEY CAN REUNITE WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND GET TO WORK BUILDING THEIR OWN VILLAGES!

    GET THEM OFF OUR WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS AND MEDICAL CARE!

    DO NOT SHIP MORE IN!

    WE WANT THEM SHIPPED OUT AND SET A QUOTA AND GET THEM OUT!

    TAKE THEIR OIL TO PAY FOR IT!
    Yes, that's why he's setting up the meeting with Putin to put the final deal into place in Syria so we can pull our troops and resources out of there and start sending these Syrians back home. Trump wants to make sure Iran stays out of control of Syria and thinks Russia can assure that, and they can and probably want to do that as well. Russia hates terrorists as much as we do and doesn't want crazy Iran messing in Syria where Russia has that huge Naval Base. Saudi has also agreed to help with money.
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    . . . "Trump seems to lie for the pure joy of it.
    A whopping
    70 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked during the campaign were false, while only 4 percent were completely true, and 11 percent mostly true. (Compare that to the politician Trump dubbed “crooked,” Hillary Clinton: Just 26 percent
    of her statements were deemed false.)" . . .

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/donald-trump-lies-liar-effect-brain-214658
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    When we are overwhelmed with false, or potentially false, statements, our brains pretty quickly become so overworked that we stop trying to sift through everything.

    Our brains are particularly ill-equipped to deal with lies when they come not singly but in a constant stream, and Trump, we know, lies constantly, about matters as serious as the election results and as trivial as the tiles at Mar-a-Lago. (According to his butler, Anthony Senecal, Trump once said the tiles in a nursery at the West Palm Beach club had been made by Walt Disney himself; when Senecal protested, Trump had a single response: “Who cares?”)

    When we are overwhelmed with false, or potentially false, statements, our brains pretty quickly become so overworked that we stop trying to sift through everything. It’s called cognitive load—our limited cognitive resources are overburdened. It doesn’t matter how implausible the statements are; throw out enough of them, and people will inevitably absorb some.

    Eventually, without quite realizing it, our brains just give up trying to figure out what is true.


    But Trump goes a step further. If he has a particular untruth he wants to propagate—not just an undifferentiated barrage—he simply states it, over and over. As it turns out, sheer repetition of the same lie can eventually mark it as true in our heads. It’s an effect known as illusory truth, first discovered in the ’70s and most recently demonstrated with the rise of fake news.

    In its original demonstration, a group of psychologists had people rate statements as true or false on three different occasions over a two-week period. Some of the statements appeared only once, while others were repeated. The repeated statements were far more likely to be judged as true the second and third time they appeared—regardless of their actual validity.

    Keep repeating that there was serious voter fraud, and the idea begins to seep into people’s heads. Repeat enough times that you were against the war in Iraq, and your actual record on it somehow disappears.


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    Poor Dems, Trump is scrambling their brains! I swear they'll all be in a psych ward before 2020.
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    6/19/18

    Trump to House GOP: Send me an immigration bill

    Trump told the GOP Conference during a closed-door meeting that he would accept either of two competing immigration bills slated for a vote this week. Many Republicans said they interpreted his words as support for a measure negotiated among GOP leaders, moderate Republicans and conservatives. Leaders were to whip votes for the carefully crafted package on Tuesday night.



    "I'm with you 100 percent!" Trump told them, later adding, “I will not leave you in the wilderness.” . . .
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    There you have it! He didn't leave them, he gave them each a Tweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Safe Zones in Syria

    Russia, Iran, and Turkey agreed Thursday to set them up, despite criticism from some Syrian rebels.
    From what I have seen they became concentration camps where Russian and Syrian could drop bombs and nerve agents.

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    I don't care. They started this evil civil war, maybe it's time to pay a little price for all the deaths they caused.
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