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    Quote Originally Posted by 17patri76 View Post
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    The business that only racists use the term “white pride” is not correct. That you think everybody will believe the phrase somehow makes a person a racist (race hater) only shows how effective the political thought police have been in controlling our language and the ideas words invoke in people’s minds. We are talking George Orwell here. “White pride” is a benign term that demeans nobody.

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    That's crap and you know it.

    So tell me, do you think the swastika could qualify as a good luck symbol?
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    And yes, most illegals are hispanic, but there are also illegals from Europe. They must go as well.

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    Charlottesville, In My Own Words

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    A candid response in the wake of my on-the-ground reports from the so-called Unite The Right rally in Virginia this weekend:

    But before I begin, a word to the hundreds of individuals who reached out expressing concern and gratitude for my reports. I am now safe and sound, and I can’t take credit for having done anything extraordinary. I simply kept my camera rolling.

    It breaks my heart that a young woman left her house on Saturday morning and will never return. It’s horrific. Her family is in my prayers.

    And I condemn James Field’s alleged actions in the strongest possible terms. I thank God for having been spared from the carnage.

    Now, a word to the growing chorus of haters who have called me every slanderous name, threatened to dox those closest to me, and many of whom have wished me dead:
    You do not define me.

    So, allow me to define myself:

    I do not bathe in tears of white guilt. That does not make me a white supremacist.

    I oppose state multiculturalism and affirmative action. That does not make me a racist.

    I reject cultural relativism. That does not make me a fascist.

    I think the false song of “social justice” has rotted the West from the inside out. But I have never called for violence against any of their adherents.

    I love my country and want its borders protected. That does not make me Alt Right.

    And for Pete’s sakes, I work for a Jewish boss and am a Christian advocate for the one-state solution for Israel— I am not a damn neo-Nazi.

    When I said that the Charlottesville Statement was a thoughtful document, it was not an endorsement. It was my sense that there were grounds upon which to engage in conversation — NOT PHYSICAL COMBAT — with the Alt Right, something I made very clear in my interviews, even encouraging the left to make a rebuttal to the 20 point manifesto.

    When I said there is a rise in white racial consciousness, it is because I believe that to be true.

    It is an observation I have made and one that laid bare on the streets of Charlottesville this weekend. An observation that neither side of US politics seems to want to admit: the promotion of identity politics combined with the declining white super majority has led to a new movement; I am not endorsing it, only pointing to the fact that it exists.

    This weekend, I intended to report on the facts wherever they led — and there were many that the mainstream media missed in their own reports; too busy condemning the Alt Right and accusing me of being one of their ilk.

    Now, a word to the corporate media: What happened in Charlottesville was a stark violation of not only a group’s first amendment rights, but a federal court order.

    The police failed to uphold the law. They failed to keep the opposing groups separate even when tensions ran red hot, and they failed to be present in the moments before the scene became deadly.

    You see, the car attack was not the only horrific scene that day. There were countless incidents of illegal deployment of mace, guns drawn, sticks and flag poles used--and from left-wing demonstrators more often as right. Alt-left violence is nothing new - we’ve seen it at countless protests over the past year.

    And yet, only one group is protected by you the media— not to mention the politicians & and some police forces, too.

    Left-wing violence at Trump rallies in Chicago, San Jose, Trump’s inauguration, Berkeley— you all just turn a blind eye. You’re happy to loop the b-roll of the handful of idiots with swastika flags but don’t say a damn thing about the scores of Antifa and BLM donning the emblem (associated with even more blood) of the hammer and sickle.

    And then, you try to tie the whole thing to Trump! Well, newsflash: this isn’t Trump’s fault. It’s the whole damn culture’s fault. Decades of identity politics rammed down the throats of our young in their classrooms, now permeates our corporate culture.

    Several months ago, I predicted a civil war was coming to America. Today, it’s without hesitation that I can say: That civil war has begun.

    No one in their right mind can look at the images to emerge from Charlottesville this weekend and deny it… From mace, shields, and flagpoles to gas masks, kevlar and firearms — America is experiencing an escalating civil war à la 2017.

    Sure, neighbour might not be fighting neighbour in the street without warning but, what we have seen are organized battlegrounds, every few weeks, where a right wing group (be they Alt Right or Alt Light) organizes a rally only to be stormed by the instigating, violent Alt Left-- let down by the police, and condemned by politicians.

    It’s a dangerous cycle we have entered — one that many of us in the alternative media have been warning about for months. And I’ll be damned if a single person out there wishes to label me a sympathizer of violent behaviour.

    I’m one of the many trying to put a stop to escalating tensions and America’s cultural and political civil war.

    So, sorry guys, just because you label everyone you disagree with “a Nazi”— doesn’t make it the truth.

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    Charlottesville Police Chief: There Were 'Mutually Combating Individuals In The Crowd'

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    On Monday, Charlottesville Police Chief Al Thomas held a press conference at which he addressed the incidents that occurred over the weekend during the alt-right protest.

    Thomas noted that “around ten o’clock, the #UniteTheRight attendees began arriving and entering Emancipation Park. We had a plan to bring them in at the rear of the park. They had agreed to cooperate with the plan. Unfortunately they did not follow the plan. They began entering at different locations in and around the park and we had to quickly alter our plans to help facilitate that process.”
    He continued, mentioning “other groups”:
    Other groups also began amassing along the street and in the park. Gradually, the crowd sizes increased along with aggressiveness and hostility of attendees toward one another. Shortly before 11 a.m., individuals in the crowd began throwing objects and spraying chemical agents into the crowd. The city and county then made a declaration of “local emergency.” The crowd size became increasingly violent, with mutually engaged combatants, with one-on-one attacks following.

    When a reporter asked: “Do you believe that one side was more responsible than the other for instigating the violence?" Thomas replied: “This was an alt-right rally.”

    The reporter pressed further: “Do you believe that they're the ones who instigated the fighting?”

    Thomas answered: “We did have mutually combating individuals in the crowd.”

    It seems utterly ridiculous to have to say this, but the alt-right weren't the only violent individuals at the Saturday rally. However, suggestions to the contrary have been harshly condemned.

    As The Daily Wire’s James Barrett reported, when New York Times reporter, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted that “the hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park,” she was strongly rebuked.

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    Stolberg backed off, correcting herself in a subsequent tweet: “Rethinking this. Should have said violent, not hate-filled. They were standing up to hate.” Still, this was not enough.

    Those criticizing Stolberg are guilty of the “false dilemma” argumentative fallacy. In their binary thinking, because the alt-right is hateful and violent, any who oppose them must be loving and non-violent.

    Acknowledging the violent behavior of the leftist extremists somehow either nullifies one’s recognition of the violent behavior of the alt-right, including the terrorist actions of James Alex Fields Jr., or places it on an equal plane.

    This, of course, is ludicrous. Human beings have the capacity to recognize and admonish different levels of brutality while understanding their ranking on the scale of grotesque behaviors. This is not a false equivalency; it’s an intellectually honest assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
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    I do not bathe in tears of white guilt. That does not make me a white supremacist.

    I oppose state multiculturalism and affirmative action. That does not make me a racist.

    I reject cultural relativism. That does not make me a fascist.

    I think the false song of “social justice” has rotted the West from the inside out. But I have never called for violence against any of their adherents.

    I love my country and want its borders protected. That does not make me Alt Right.

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    I can agree with all of that.

    This is crap:

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    When I said there is a rise in white racial consciousness, it is because I believe that to be true.

    It is an observation I have made and one that laid bare on the streets of Charlottesville this weekend. An observation that neither side of US politics seems to want to admit: the promotion of identity politics combined with the declining white super majority has led to a new movement; I am not endorsing it, only pointing to the fact that it exists.

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    There is no such thing as white racial consciousness. White people do not represent some sort of monolithic ethnic identity. I am of northern European descent. I am not French, Italian or even German. I reject utterly and completely being lumped together with any of these.

    This whole notion of white pride or white consciousness clearly sponges off the political momentum of black pride and black consciousness that emerged in the sixties during the civil rights struggle of African Americans.

    African Americans consider black consciousness as being monolithic among all African Americans, only because their own distinct cultural roots among African ethnic groups has been utterly erased through the cultural homogenization of slavery.

    Furthermore the whole notion of "white pride" has its roots among neo-nazis. Don't believe otherwise. Not all of us were born yesterday.
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    to pkskyali:

    You say, “There is no such thing as white racial consciousness.” Well actually there is. The question is, is it good or bad?
    You say, “White people do not represent some sort of monolithic ethnic identity.” Sorry, you are wrong again. There is a Caucasian race; it is not a NAZI or a “racist” invention. The concept is a category of humans identified by scientists. White people have certain “marker genes” that they all share in common. Such genes are not found in the pure Negro, Orientalor other races etc. Of course when there are interracial marriages the children will be a blend of racial genes, but that does not nullify the existence of distinct racial groups. And within the Caucasian race there are sub-species of German, Italian etc. But these are subtle variations of a greater, basically homogeneous Caucasian race.

    But your worse assertion is “…the notion of ‘white pride’ has its roots among neo-NAZIS. Don’t believe other wise. Not all of us were born yesterday.” Considering the English language is very old it is certain that somebody put together the words “white” and “pride” to verbalize that ideal long before there were NAZIS. But perhaps that is splitting hairs. The Nazis probably used that phrase a lot more than other people -- so damn what? Hitler praised the “German mother” are we not allowed to verbalize the idea that German women have children? Just because you and your ilk have decided that the phrase “White pride” equals racism, equals Nazi, equals pure evil, -- does not mean it is the one and only way to think about that phrase. Who appointed you the final authority on what “White pride” means? When did you develop the ability to read peoples minds?

    You keep trying censure the use of the term “White pride.” Words express thoughts. When we hear them we form ideas. If we can not speak the words, we can not exchange thoughts, understand others or develop ideas. When you control the language you control what people think. And that is the most insidious form of despotism.

    Because most people associate the term "White pride” with racism, it is important to break the anti-White abuse of our language. We can not be free to think when the definitions of words are manipulated to conform to an ideology.

    I repeat, why is it that every other group can have pride in their race except Whites? Why is it wrong for Whites to be proud of who they are?

    Concerning the swastika, it is in fact very old, found in different cultures and is still used today and sometimes it is asymbol of good luck. Just because Hitler co-opted it and Westerners associate it with NAZIS does not preclude it meaning something different to another person. Apparently you can read other people’s minds. I can not. If somebody says it is a symbol of good luck to them, I will take them at their word.

    Are you paranoid about White racism? You apparently will not even consider the idea that a White person can be proud of his race and not feel animosity toward other races. Well once again you are wrong. Many proud Whites do not hate other races.

    Now go away you annoying, stubborn little man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 17patri76 View Post
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    Now go away you annoying, stubborn little man.
    I'm not going anywhere unless the administrators boot me out. So quit whining and get used to it.

    You are not obliged to respond to my posts.
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    I love white people, and I am very proud of the Americans of so many different races and walks of life we have brought together through the work of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC. White Americans do not deserve all of this anger and dispaced accusations of racism being aimed at everyone these days. I take great heart in the fact, so many non-white Americans stand with us on the current laws, principles, and Constitution of the United States.

    We have spoken out against racist groups, constantly disassociated from them when they or their supporters are detected, and fought back against them when those on the left and the right (and people pretending to be one or the other) have attempted to force us into association with racially intolerant groups.

    ALIPAC has restated our commitment to peaceful political processes and activism and racial inclusiveness thousands of times, but none of that matters to the socialists intent upon overthrowing the United States with their growing ranks of minions imported legally and illegally from other parts of the Earth.

    In their eyes, every white person is a racist and intolerant person because in their eyes white people can only exist if they exclude non-whites from their DNA, reproduction, and sexual habits.

    These leftists in the streets, media, and Democrat party have no real interest in Nazis or KKK fringe groups, half of which are federal agents and SPLC/ADL and other Soros group operatives! See Hal Turner.

    Their interest is taking down Trump and the sixty million Americans that supported him and anyone that is loyal to our existing values and Constitution which they deem to be a relic of white European colonialism and a hindrance to their goals of Global domination and totalitarian control.

    It is true that anti-white bias is a big factor in the US that is growing and we have simultaneously spoken out against racism and violence at ALIPAC while denouncing the violent leftist's mobs and anti-white bias that is responsible for so much injustice, death, and destruction in the US.

    When we go to any inner city area that is the most blighted by drugs, property and violent crimes and criminals we will find ourselves in the political strongholds of those screaming loudest against "racism" and "white privilege". Wherever these globalists and socialists reign supreme, free speech and the Rule of Law give way to gang rule and the tyranny of the mob like what we saw in Charlottesville. (See Detroit, Baltimore, etc...)

    Socialist and Communist governments have killed over 100 million of their own citizens that disagreed with them in the last 100 years and here in the US thousands of innocent citizens are brutally assaulted, raped, or murdered each year due to the policies and culture promoted by the Alt-Left while incidents of violence coming from the small right wing fringe groups can be counted on one hand.

    The murder or injury of any person through a criminal act is something we all should oppose. But when it comes to injuries and murders, Democrats and leftists are responsible for the vast majority of such crimes in both their criminal deeds and their political culture that fosters a socio-political-economic climate where violence and murder are much more prominent.

    The safest areas in America and the world according to actual crime data are in man homogeneous areas of Asia and the predominantly white, lawful gun owning, Republican and Donald Trump supporting precincts that the left and MSM are abusing with Charlottesville.

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