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    Trump Sends in Feds to Battle Chicago’s Crime Wave

    Trump Sends in Feds to Battle Chicago’s Crime Wave

    The Constitution is supposed to ward against federal police powers.



    July 6, 2017

    The Trump administration wants to stop the gun violence in Chicago. To do that, federal officials announced on Friday that they are sending 20 agents from the Department of Justice’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), along with U.S. prosecutors, to serve in a new crime-fighting task force with city and state police there.

    “This new strike force will significantly help our police officers stem the flow of illegal guns and create a culture of accountability for the small subset of individuals and gangs who disproportionately drive violence in our city,” Chicago Police Department Superintendent Eddie Johnson said on June 30.

    President Donald Trump was much more blunt on Twitter, exclaiming “Crime and killings in Chicago have reached such epidemic proportions that I am sending in Federal help.”

    This “help,” as Trump calls it, should not be unreservedly welcome. “Sending the feds in” smacks of federal police or a domestic military, and that chafes against the very protections the Founding Fathers deployed in the Constitution from the country’s beginning. And they had good reason.

    Few propositions about American history are clearer than that the framers of our Constitution wanted to preclude the creation of a national law-enforcement authority in any way resembling the “thorough” dictatorship of the Earl of Stafford, or Oliver Cromwell’s “New Model Army” in England, or the national police of Louis XVI’s minister Fouche in France. T.B. Macaulay once wrote of the parliamentary creation of Cromwell’s army that “while the Houses were exercising their authority thus, it suddenly passed out of their hands. It had been obtained by calling into existence a power which could not be controlled. In the summer of 1647, about 12 months after the last fortress of the Cavaliers had submitted to the Parliament, the Parliament was compelled to submit to its own soldiers.”

    Thus, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution restricts army appropriations to two years, Section 14 empowers Congress to make rules for the governing of the military, Section 15 empowers Congress to call out the militia only for three specified purposes, and Clause 16 authorizes Congress to discipline the militia, “reserving to the states respectively the Appointment of the Officers and the Authority of training.” At the Philadelphia convention, Roger Sherman of Connecticut explained: “If the Executive can model the army, he may set up an absolute government.” Washington’s farewell address urged citizens to “avoid the necessity of those overgrown military establishments which, under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty and which are to be regarded as peculiarly inauspicious to republican liberty.”

    Madison said in Federalist No. 46: “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition.” The ratifying convention debates indicate that the power to regulate individuals was intended to replace the power to coerce states. For example, Oliver Ellsworth in Connecticut declared: “I am for coercion by law—that coercion which acts only upon delinquent individuals.

    This Constitution does not attempt to coerce sovereign bodies, states, in their political capacity. No coercion is applicable to such bodies but that of an armed force. [This] would involve the good and the bad, the innocent and guilty, in the same calamity.”

    In his opinion in Printz v. U.S. (1997), Justice Antonin Scalia referred to Federalist No. 20, in which the United Netherlands were held up as a terrible example—”a sovereignty over sovereigns … as counter distinguished from individuals, as it is a solecism in theory, so in practice it is subversive of the conduct and ends of civil polity”—and to Federalist No. 27, which said that “using the states as the instruments of federal governance was both ineffectual and provocative of federal-state conflict.”

    In New York, Hamilton declared that Congress could not “alter or abrogate civil and criminal institutions or penetrate the recesses of domestic life and control in all respects the private conduct of individuals.” Madison gave similar assurances in Virginia and described state police jurisdiction as ordinary and federal jurisdiction as exceptional in Federalist No. 45. In Cohens v. Virginia, Chief Justice Marshall declared in 1821 that Congress had “no general right to punish murder committed within any of the states” and further stated that it was “clear that Congress cannot punish felonies generally.”

    Both liberals and conservatives today disregard these teachings in several ways.

    First, there is vastly expanded federal drug jurisdiction, generating more than 10,000 Drug Enforcement Agency arrests a year and up to 100,000 detentions by Homeland Security border agencies, in addition to state and local arrests inspired by federal prohibitions that have gone as high as 1.5 million a year. In 2012, there were 96,260 new federal prosecutions, which up until Prohibition were measured in the hundreds each year. There are now about 100,000 federal law-enforcement personnel, as against one million state and local personnel. Although the Supreme Court in the Lopez case limited federal jurisdiction over drug offenses committed near schools, it later upheld, in the 6–3 Gonzales v. Raich decision, the application of an all-encompassing drug regulatory scheme as a regulation of interstate commerce.

    Contrast this with the history of Prohibition. The commerce power was once deemed inadequate to support the national prohibition of alcoholic beverages, recourse being had to the war power and then to constitutional amendment. The constitutional amendment extended only to “manufacture, sale or transport” of alcohol; a provision extending it to “use or purchase” was rejected in the Senate 62–4. It was necessary for Prohibition agents to witness a sale; people drinking at a bar or a visible inventory was insufficient.

    This gave rise to questionable searches, wiretapping, and entrapment, and to legal doctrines circumscribing them. But even the Volstead Act was confined in ways contemporary federal drug legislation is not. There was an exemption for medicinal alcohol, which kept distillers in business. There was an exemption for near-beer of not more than 0.5 percent alcohol, which kept brewers in business. Wine growers sold dried fruit, easily used in home fermentation; producers of cider were accorded an exemption for home use; and provision was made for production of industrial alcohol. Enforcement was reposed in the Treasury rather than Justice Department; Prohibition agents were underpaid and appointed on a patronage basis.

    The 18th Amendment provided for concurrent enforcement and was never thought to require the states to enforce the law. Maryland, under Gov. Albert Ritchie, refused to enact an enforcement statute; five or six other states, including New York under Al Smith, repealed their enforcement statutes in the mid-1920s.

    An effort by President Calvin Coolidge in 1926 to appoint by executive order “any state county or municipal officer … as a prohibition officer of the Treasury Department” caused a national uproar. Sen. Albert Beveridge of Indiana, best remembered as a biographer of John Marshall, declared that the order would “radically and fundamentally change our form of government and change it at once. … If this military and bureaucratic exposition of constitutional law is sound, then the planners and builders of American institutions wrought in vain.” Sen. Joseph Robinson, the minority leader, attacked the order as “a colossal blunder … the most far-reaching disregard of what we have come to know as State rights that has occurred during the present century.” Sen. Walter George of Georgia declared that “it can destroy the officer of the opposite sovereign … it will not be accepted by the common sense of the American people.” The president backed off and no appointments were ever made.

    Second, an ill-advised 1992 law, flouting the constitutional design of non-coercion of subordinate governments, allows federal injunctions and consent decrees against state policing agencies. (The most recent such decree, in Baltimore, precludes that city from making arrests for nonviolent offenses that have a “disparate impact” on any “Demographic Category,” which in practice limits the ability of police to focus on high-crime neighborhoods.) And aside from the constitutional issue, there are unappreciated limits on such injunctions and decrees, such as that they are frequently changed after being signed (or even entered) for political reasons.

    The years between 1890 and 1932, which saw controversy over labor injunctions issued by federal courts, are instructive here. The federal military was deployed to support employers in controversies frequently involving loss of life, including the suppression of the Pullman Strike in 1894. Agitation against the labor injunction gave rise to the Clayton Act of 1913, which included a provision aimed at the “John Doe” injunctions that had been used to fine union members in the Danbury Hatters case. The Norris-La Guardia Act in 1930 limited labor injunctions to cases of proven violence; labor clashes in the
    Great Depression thus involved state and local police and national guardsmen rather than federal troops.

    Without the Norris-La Guardia Act, the United States would have entered World War II with an army sullied by domestic bloodshed; the only episode of this kind during the 1930s was the still-remembered “Battle of Anacostia Flats” involving the eviction of veterans’ bonus demonstrators, in which bloodshed actually was minimal. This experience counts heavily against a regime of federal plenary police power or the ability to direct state and local officers.

    Third, the federal government increasingly threatens to withhold federal funds to influence state and local law enforcement. During the Obama administration, state colleges were told they would lose funds if they did not agree to deprive persons accused of sexual assault of basic due process rights such as confrontation and cross-examination in suspension or expulsion proceedings. The Trump administration, for its part, has made vague threats of fund withholding against “sanctuary cities” that decline to assist in the apprehension of illegal immigrants. A judge in California has quite properly invoked the Rehnquist court’s anti-commandeering cases to question these efforts.

    Fourth, the federal government has made unprincipled use of both traditional and recently enacted “civil rights” legislation. Such legislation was conceived as a backstop against willful non-enforcement of laws by state and local authorities. Instead, it has often been treated as a preferred mode of prosecution. It has been applied in jurisdictions like Puerto Rico, Massachusetts, and New York to seek capital punishment in states that do not allow it. In the Boston Marathon and Oklahoma City bombing cases, and in recent cases involving a police shooting and the South Carolina church massacre, it has been invoked in spite of the fact that the relevant arrests had been made by state authorities committed to vigorous prosecution.

    Both the Roosevelt court in Screws v. United States (1945) and the Warren Court in United States v. Guest (1965) stated that federal criminal civil-rights laws would be unconstitutionally sweeping and vague unless circumscribed by a requirement that the defendant have a specific intent to deprive a victim of a federal constitutional right. Justices Frankfurter, Jackson, and Roberts added that even as limited, the statute has dangers: “a ‘policy of strict self-limitation’ is not accompanied by assurance of permanent tenure and immortality of those who make it the policy. Evil men are rarely given power; they take it over from better men to whom it had been entrusted. There can be no doubt that this shapeless and all-embracing statute can serve as a dangerous instrument of political intimidation and coercion in the hands of those so inclined.”

    Both admirers and critics of the Trump administration should heed this admonition.

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    Where 50,000 Guns Recovered in Chicago Came From

    (GREAT GRAPHICS AT LINK.)

    The Chicago Police Department traced the origins of about 50,000 guns that it recovered between 2001 and March 2012.

    More than half of those guns came from outside the state.

    Close to Home
    Chicago is seen as having some of the most restrictive gun ordinances in the country. Gun shops are banned, and no civilian gun ranges exist. There is a ban on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. But more than 15,000 of the guns traced by the police came from just outside the city limits in Cook County and in neighboring towns that permit gun stores.

    States with the most guns
    recovered in Chicago

    Illinois 22,051
    Indiana 7,747
    Mississippi 4,296
    Wisconsin 1,647
    Kentucky 1,226
    Ohio 1,121
    Tennessee 1,090
    Alabama 1,070
    Arkansas 944
    Texas 937



    Close to Home
    Chicago is seen as having some of the most restrictive gun ordinances in the country. Gun shops are banned, and no civilian gun ranges exist. There is a ban on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. But more than 15,000 of the guns traced by the police came from just outside the city limits in Cook County and in neighboring towns that permit gun stores.


    States with the most guns
    recovered in Chicago

    Illinois 22,051
    Indiana 7,747
    Mississippi 4,296
    Wisconsin 1,647
    Kentucky 1,226
    Ohio 1,121
    Tennessee 1,090
    Alabama 1,070
    Arkansas 944
    Texas

    Guns Came from Every State
    The Chicago police traced the origin for more than half of the guns seized since 2001. The guns whose origins were identified came from all 50 states and from more than 60 percent of the nation’s counties. Seven guns were traced back to Puerto Rico (5) and Guam (2).

    Close Ties to Mississippi
    More than 4,000 guns were traced to Mississippi, especially in the rural, western part of the state, more than any outside state other than Indiana. During the migration of families from the South in the 1940s and 1970s, Chicago was a top destination, according to James N. Gregory, a history professor at the University of Washington. In 1970 there were more people from Mississippi living in Illinois than in all other Southern states. Family ties may help explain why many guns bought in Mississippi ended up in Chicago.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...came-from.html

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    Perhaps Chicago should not have Federal help ($$$) in any area until they follow Federal law. Illegal immigration,from all over the world feeds street gangs.

    Street gangs in Chicago, Illinois

    Asian street gangs in Chicago

    1. Asian Boyz
    2. Black Shadow
    3. Black Widows
    4. Hop Sing
    5. Local Boys
    6. Wolf Boys
      Folk street gangs in Chicago
    7. Ambrose
    8. Allport Lovers
    9. Black Disciples
    10. Brazers
    11. City Knights
    12. Gangster Disciples (GD), branches include Eight ball Posse, Insane Gangster Disciples and Hellraisers
    13. Gangster Party People
    14. Harrison Gents
    15. Insane C-Notes
    16. Insane Campbell Boys
    17. Insane Cullerton Deuces
    18. Insane Deuces
    19. Insane Dragons
    20. Insane Guess Boys
    21. Insane Latin Lovers
    22. Insane Latin Jivers
    23. Insane Orchestra Albany
    24. Insane Popes (North Side)
    25. Insane Spanish Cobras
    26. Krazy Getdown Boys
    27. King Cobras
    28. La Raza
    29. Latin Dragons
    30. Latin Eagles
    31. Latin Stylers
    32. Latin Souls
    33. Maniac Campbell Boys
    34. Maniac Latin Disciples
    35. Milwaukee Kings
    36. Morgan Boys
    37. Racine Boys
    38. Satan Disciples (SD)
    39. Simon City Royals
    40. Spanish Gangster Disciples
    41. Spanish Gangster Two Six
    42. Two Two Boys
    43. Young Latino Organization Cobras
    44. Young Latino Organization DisciplesPeople street gangs in Chicago
    45. Bishops
    46. Black P Stones (braches include Apache Stones, Jet Black Stones, Titanic Stones, Ruben Night Stones, Jabari Stones, & Black Stone Villans)
    47. Four Corner Hustlers
    48. Familia Stones
    49. Gaylords
    50. Insane Popes (South Side)
    51. Insane Unknowns
    52. Latin Brothers
    53. Latin Counts
    54. Latin Pachucos
    55. Latin Stones
    56. Loco Boys
    57. Mickey Cobras
    58. Noble Knights
    59. Outlaw Bloods
    60. Party Players
    61. Ridgeway Boys
    62. Saints
    63. Spanish Lords
    64. Stoned Freaks
    65. Twelvth Street Players
    66. Vice Lords (Branches include the Conservative VLs, Unknown VLs, Insane VLs, Renegade VLs, Mafia Insane VLs, Imperial Insane VLs, Cicero Insane VLs, Spanish VLs, Traveler VLs, Outlaw Lunatic Traveler VLs, Ebony VLs, Gangster Stone VLs, Undertaker VLs, & 4VLs.)
    67. VillalobosStreet gangs in Chicago
    68. 12th Street Players
    69. Adidas Boys
    70. Akrhos
    71. Almighty Latin King / Queen Nation (ALKQN)
    72. Aztecas
    73. Aztec Souls
    74. Black Cobras
    75. Black Gangsters
    76. Black Souls
    77. Brown Pride
    78. Brothers For Life
    79. Cameron City Outlaws
    80. Crazy Gangsters
    81. Homicide Boys
    82. Imperial Gangsters
    83. La Onda
    84. La Primera
    85. Latin Mafia
    86. Latin Players
    87. Latin Pride
    88. Lynch Mob
    89. Netas
    90. Nike Boys
    91. Paulina Barry Community (PBC) [inactive]
    92. South Deering Boys
    93. Sawyer Boys
    94. The Arabian Posse
    95. Thugs Re-United
    96. Vatos Locos
    97. Whipple Boys
    98. Whipple Brothers
    99. Young Sinner
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    I'm telling ya, the whole south side of Chicago is a fricken war zone. And it's actually spreading to the rest of Chicago.

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