Thread: Trump UK ban petition passes 329,000 signatures

Donald Trump's Plan for Muslims May Get Him Banned From Israel and the U.K.

BY REUTERS 12/9/15 AT 10:40 PM

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a campaign stop in Spencer, Iowa. MARK KAUZLARICH/REUTERS

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Israeli politicians and more than 370,000 Britons urged their governments on Wednesday to bar Donald Trump from their countries after the Republican presidential front-runner said Muslims should be denied entry into the United States.

The calls were part of a growing global backlash against Trump's proposal that cut across nationalities and religions, and began to hit the real estate mogul's brand in the Middle East.

Although Israeli politicians demanded Trump be blocked from a planned visit, a Dec. 28 meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was still on. In addition to the online petition calling for a ban on Trump from the United Kingdom, a Scottish university revoked his honorary degree.

A major chain of Middle East department stores halted sales of the real estate mogul's glitzy "Trump Home" line of lamps, mirrors and jewelry boxes.

Even China weighed in with indirect criticism of Trump's comments, which have been condemned by the White House, U.S. congressional leaders, the United Nations, the prime ministers of France and Britain, a wide array of human and civil rights groups and many of Trump's Republican rivals and potential Democratic opponents in the November 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Trump, who leads opinion polls in the Republican nominating race, on Monday called for blocking Muslims, including would-be immigrants, students and tourists, from entering the country following last week's deadly shootings in California by two Muslims who authorities said were radicalized.

Left- and right-wing Israeli politicians, as well as Israeli Arab lawmakers, condemned Trump's remarks and said he should be barred from visiting. Omer Bar-Lev of the main center-left opposition party, the Zionist Union, took to Twitter to call Trump a "racist."

"I recommend fighting terrorist and extremist Islam, but I would not declare a boycott of, ostracism against or war on Muslims in general," Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz, a senior Likud lawmaker and Netanyahu confidant, told Israel's Army Radio.

Netanyahu issued a statement saying he rejected Trump's remarks but the visit, set two weeks ago, would go ahead as planned and did not indicate support for Trump.

"The prime minister rejects the recent comments by Donald Trump with regard to Muslims. Israel respects all religions and diligently guards the rights of its citizens," a statement from Netanyahu's office said.

In Britain, the number of signatories to the petition demanding Trump be banned from visiting exceeded 370,000 and was growing fast. But the country's finance minister, George Osborne, said the former reality TV star should not be banned. (http://bit.ly/1ORSaRJ)

In the past, people have been banned from entering the United Kingdom for fostering hatred that might provoke intercommunity violence.

Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen, Scotland, revoked an honorary degree it had awarded Trump in 2010, saying on Twitter that his statements "are wholly incompatible with the ethos and values of the university."

In China, home to about 20 million Muslims, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said she could not comment on internal U.S. matters but said China believed "the international community should make a concerted effort to fight terrorism, and at the same time we have always opposed linking terrorism to any specific ethnic group or religion."

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In the Middle East, sales of "Trump Home" products took a hit.

The Landmark Group, one of the region's biggest retail companies with 190 stores in the Middle East, Africa and Pakistan, said it was pulling all Trump merchandise off its shelves. The company did not give any details on the value of the contract.

Although there were no other immediate announcements of business partners breaking with Trump, others made clear they were uneasy using his brand name in the Middle East, where he has been actively expanding his footprint in recent years, heavily concentrated in the Gulf business hub of Dubai.

A former Trump business partner in Dubai, construction billionaire Khalaf al-Habtoor, said Trump had wrecked his prospects for successful future collaborations in the region.

"He is really creating war. He’s creating hatred between Muslims and Christians," Habtoor, who at one time held the contract to build a later-canceled Trump International Hotel & Tower in Dubai, told Reuters.

"Muslims have invested hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars (in America), creating jobs for Americans. They can go invest it somewhere else."

Trump has courted controversy during his White House run with derogatory comments about immigrants and controversial proposals to deport undocumented immigrants and implement a database to keep track of Muslim Americans.

Some supporters rallied to his defense. Evangelist Franklin Graham, son of legendary evangelist Billy Graham, posted on Facebook that Trump was echoing his own longheld belief that Muslim immigration should be stopped until "we can properly vet them or until the war with Islam is over." The post had nearly 75,000 likes on Facebook. (http://on.fb.me/1OS3iQE)

Qatar Airways Chief Executive Officer Akbar Al Baker said he disagreed with the proposed ban but voiced support for Trump, saying the proposal was meant to gain political mileage.

"I don't think he means it. He has many Muslim friends. He has investments in Muslim countries. And at the same time he has only put this out of context just to gain some more votes," he said.

Closer to home, former boxing champion Muhammad Ali took an apparent jab at Trump without mentioning him by name in a statement to NBC News headlined "Presidential Candidates Proposing to Ban Muslim Immigration to the United States."

"We as Muslims have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda," Ali said in the statement, according to the network.

Trump defended his proposal on Tuesday, comparing his plan to ban Muslims to the U.S. government's World War Two detainment of Japanese-Americans. He said President Franklin Roosevelt had overseen the internment of more than 110,000 people in U.S. government camps after Japanese forces bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941.

Trump told CNN on Wednesday in reply to a question about how the ban would work that there would exceptions in cases such as diplomats and Muslim athletes, and that it might be short-lived.

"Exceptions will be made. We're not going to say, you can't come into the country. ... It could go quickly. It's a subject that has to be discussed," he said.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump...-and-uk-403359

Mayors look to 'ban' Trump from their cities

By Gregory Krieg, CNN
Updated 8:56 PM ET, Tue December 8, 2015

Story highlights

• Local officials in Florida and Pennsylvania fight fire with fire
• The mayor of St. Petersburg, Florida, calls Trump's plan to ban Muslims 'ridiculous'

(CNN)Donald Trump's plan to temporarily halt the immigration of Muslims to the U.S. is being met with a mini-wave of mayoral backlash.

"If I had the power, the only banning that would be done is that I would ban [Trump] from Philadelphia," said that city's mayor, Democrat Michael Nutter,on Tuesday. "We don't have any room for that kind of stupidity here."




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Hours earlier, another Pennsylvania mayor (and longshot Senate candidate), Braddock's outspoken John Fetterman, released a statement calling Trump a "jagoff," a western Pennsylvania slang expression that means stupid.


In a Monday night tweet, Rick Kriseman, the mayor of St. Petersburg, Florida, cheekily declared he would ban the GOP front-runner from entering his city "until we fully understand the dangerous threat posed by all Trumps."


Kriseman's riposte landed Monday night a few hours after Trump's controversial call for "for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

Trump added, "Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."

By 8 a.m. on Tuesday, Kriseman's response had been retweeted nearly 7,500 times and received more applause than not.
"HA HA - is this sarcasm?" asked one person.


"Yeah," the mayor responded. "Answering ridiculousness w/ridiculousness."


"That's obviously not something I would try to do," Kriseman told the Tampa Bay Times later, again explaining he had no intention of formally barring Trump.

"But his statement was kind of ridiculous, so I thought that it deserved an equal response."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politi...urg-mayor-ban/

Two Obama-supporting California cities approve of Donald Trump’s Muslim immigrant ban

By Philip Bump December 9 at 11:15 AM


Donald Trump talks to media from his car wearing a "Make America Great Again," hat. (Matthew Busch/Getty Images)

If you're not familiar with the geography of California, it can be broken into roughly three pieces. There's northern California, anchored by San Francisco. There's southern California, anchored by Los Angeles. And there's the Central Valley/Inland Empire, the parts not on the coast that are home to a lot of agriculture and a lot of open space.

San Bernardino sits at the southern end of this stretch, just east of Los Angeles. Among the many reasons that it was an unlikely spot to expect the most deadly domestic terror attack since Sept. 11 is that its an afterthought even in California -- the 17th-largest city in the state behind a number that you've likely never heard of.

The automated polling firm SurveyUSA just completed two surveys in cities near San Bernardino, with a focus on Donald Trump's declaration that the United States should block any Muslims from entering the country. SurveyUSA talked to people in San Diego, at the very bottom of the state, where voters in 2012 supported Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by more than seven points. They also polled people in Fresno and Visalia, up in the Central Valley, where Obama only barely won more votes than Romney.

In California politics, these are relatively moderate and relatively conservative regions, respectively.

And in both places, the majority of adults polled supported Trump's proposal.

In fact, more than a third of adults in both cities strongly agreed with the idea that Muslim should be barred from entering the country. In both places, more people strongly agreed with the idea than strongly disagreed. There was a partisan split, but even among Democrats, more than a quarter of those answering the poll strongly agreed with Trump's idea.




Fresno, as you might expect, is generally more sympathetic to Trump's position than San Diego. But not by much.

We'll note here, as we did when assessing the iffy poll that Trump used to justify his policy, that in an "agree-disagree" polling framework, people tend to lean toward "agree." But when asked if they agreed or disagreed with Hillary Clinton's response to Trump (she called it "reprehensible, prejudiced and divisive"), majorities in both cities disagreed with her comments.

SurveyUSA also asked for people's opinions of the Islamic religion. In most cases, pluralities of voters indicated that they considered the religion more violent than peaceful.




It's not clear what function the proximity of San Bernardino to the cities plays in these results (which we are highlighting solely because they’re the first for which we have polling on Trump’s proposal). Fresno lies a few hours up Highway 99 from the site of the terror attacks, while San Diego is relatively close. Given the results above, it's more likely that politics is the driving force, and that even in a relatively liberal area (from a national perspective), Trump's plan is hardly anathema to residents.

We noted on Tuesday that Trump's proposal was pretty unlikely to alienate his supporters. This is one pair of surveys from two cities, but it seems completely possible that Trump won't end up alienating too many other potential supporters, either.

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LOL!! I think it's great that foreign countries want to "ban" Trump. We'll save a fortune on travel expenses while he's President and another fortune on foreign aid, after all it's pretty hard to beg for money from a President you've banned from your country. It's a relief really because best I can tell, no good comes to America from all these trips the last several Presidents have made.

President Trump will be more than delighted to stay home in the United States and work on fixing our country leaving Bibi, Cameron and all the rest to work on theirs at their expense.

The UK has given in to Islam and allows Sharia law and Moslem no go zones. It appears that the liberals here finally see an opening that they think they can use to shut Donald Trump down. One should ask themselves why these people feel so threatened..Donald is upsetting their little corrupt apple carts. IMO

Met blasts Donald Trump for 'London police in fear' claim

After controversial remarks about Muslims in US, presidential hopeful criticised for saying UK capital’s streets are so radicalised officers ‘are afraid for their lives’

London’s Metropolitan police have said Donald Trump “could not be more wrong” when he claimed parts of London were so radicalised that officers feared for their lives.

Politicians also weighed in, with a Downing Street source saying the US presidential hopeful’s comments were “totally inaccurate” and London’s mayor, Boris Johnson, describing them as “utter nonsense”.

In a withering statement, the Met, responsible for policing the British capital, said: “We would not normally dignify such comments with a response, however, on this occasion we think it’s important to state to Londoners that Mr Trump could not be more wrong.”

Donald Trump's Muslim hatred doesn't deserve a counter-argument

The statement continued: “Any candidate for the presidential election in the United States of America is welcome to receive a briefing from the Met police on the reality of policing London.”

In a bid to justify his controversial comments that Muslims should be barred from entering the US, Trump had said parts of London and Paris were so “radicalised” – seemingly a reference to Islamist extremism being rife – that police officers were scared.

“Paris is no longer the safe city it was. They have sections in Paris that are radicalised, where the police refuse to go there. They’re petrified. The police refuse to go in there,” he told MSNBC, refusing to name specific neighbourhoods in the city.

He added: “We have places in London and other places that are so radicalised that the police are afraid for their own lives.

We have to be very smart and very vigilant.”

The Met initially had considered not making a statement but felt the claim was potentially damaging and false, and should be rebutted.

A Downing Street source, meanwhile, said: “For the second time today, we have to completely disagree with Mr Trump. His comments are totally inaccurate.”

Downing Street had taken the unusual step of criticising a potential candidate for the US presidency after Trump issued a campaign statement calling for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on”.

The statement, made after the San Bernardino shooting, prompted the prime minister’s spokeswoman to describe Trump’s comments as “divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong”.

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Johnson also ridiculed Trump’s comments, saying: “The only reason I wouldn’t go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.

“As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous.”

Trump’s comments came in the wake of last week’s attack in San Bernardino, California, where a Muslim couple believed to have been radicalised shot 14 dead at a health centre.

The business magnate’s outburst attracted criticism from both London mayoral hopefuls. Zac Goldsmith, the Conservative mayoral candidate and MP for Richmond Park, described Trump’s position as “repellent” and said the Republican candidate was “an appalling creature” and “one of the most malignant figures in politics”.

Sadiq Khan, Labour’s candidate and MP for Tooting, said Trump did not have a clue about London. “He is clearly ignorant about London’s tolerance and diversity and also about how unified we are as a city,” he said. “More importantly, he should apologise for pretending to speak on behalf of our police, who do such an incredible job keeping our city safe. Trump can’t just be dismissed as a buffoon – his comments are outrageous, divisive and dangerous – I condemn them utterly and hope his campaign dies a death.”
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Reaction in Paris has been similarly dismissive. Christophe Najdovski, a Green party deputy mayor in charge of transport in Paris, told the Guardian: “These comments are totally untrue. The best thing is to invite Donald Trump to Paris and show him what he’s saying is absolutely false. He can come here to Paris with us and walk around in complete security in every district.”

Colombe Brossel, the Socialist deputy mayor in charge of security and urban affairs, tweeted Trump from a “must-go” area of the 18tharrondissement in northern Paris, saying he did not know the city’s working-class neighbourhoods.

— Colombe Brossel (@CBrossel)December 8, 2015En direct d'une must go zone du #18eme . Cc @realDonaldTrump qui ne connaît pas les quartiers populaires de @Paris pic.twitter.com/vznqTlYI0H

A Paris city spokesperson said: “Clearly these comments show a lack of knowledge of Paris. Mr Trump is picking up an argument already used by Fox News, which is the subject of a legal complaint that has been filed by City Hall and which has already been disproved by numerous French and American media.”

When Fox News reported in the wake of January’s attacks on the magazine Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket that there were “no-go zones” in Paris where non-Muslims and police were afraid to go, Paris’s Socialist mayor, Anne Hidalgo, sued the broadcaster. Hidalgo said at the time “the image of Paris” and the “honour of Paris” had been harmed.

Paris City Hall said of Trump’s comments: “While terrorism knows no borders, hitting France just like the US, that has in no way taken away the fact that Paris is a safe and welcoming city.”

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Officials pointed out that numerous American personalities were able to see for themselves how safe Paris was last week when they came to a local leaders climate summit in the capital – including Michael Bloomberg, the mayors of Los Angeles and Chicago, a delegation of senators, Al Gore, Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert Redford.

A spokesperson for Labour’s shadow foreign secretary, Hilary Benn, also condemned Trump’s statement, saying: “Hilary was appalled by his comments which have caused deep offence and sought to divide communities for political gain when we should be bringing people together.”

The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, said: “Donald Trump’s latest utterances are politics at its worst – blaming whole groups and communities with sweeping statements. For someone who is trying to be president of America it frankly shows why he is utterly unsuited for the role.

“Trump says these things lightly; but his words have a consequence. They set the tone for public debate. Frankly, he should be ashamed of these comments, but sadly they are the latest in long line of utterances that would be considered by anyone to be completely reprehensible.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-muslims-claim

Donald Trump: UK 'should be thanking me' for Muslim comments but Muhammad Ali condemns politician

Telegraph.co.uk‎ - 13 mins ago

Petition to ban Trump from UK hits 400,000 •
Trump cancels Israel trip after dozens of Israeli MPs accused him of racism . . .

Good, I'm very glad he canceled his trip to Israel. Trump shouldn't leave the country, he should stay here and attend to our business, not theirs. If they want something when he's President, they can come here to beg to for it. And if they can't read the writing on the wall, let me make it clear for them. The day of "sharing the United States" with other countries will soon come to and end, January 2017. The days of our funding your failures at our expense is over.

If you have too many people in your country, then you need to curb the breeding. If you have too many Jihadists in your country, then you need to shut down the Mosques that train them, close the schools that educate them, and arrest and prosecute those who commit murder and mayhem in your nations, because we will not fund what is your national responsibility to your own people. You stupid countries responsible for all this terrorism and unwanted immigration caused by overpopulation into the United States are fools and idiots and the Americans will no longer fund stupid, here or abroad. We're done with all that.

So if you think for a minute that banning or condemning or criticizing our next President of the United States is going to get you anything from US or take you anywhere you want to go at our expense, then you need to wake up and smell the Reality that's about to cloud up and rain all over you, because when you attack him, you're attacking US.

Read it and weep. Your pay days and hand holding at the expense of the American People are ... over.

You may be able to buy up a bunch of our crooked politicians, but you can't buy US, because we're not for sale.

Banning Trump is now the UK’s most popular petition ever

by Sean Keach 16 December 2015
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Trump’s transatlantic antics aren’t going down too well here in Britain…

A move to block Donald J Trump from entering the UK has resulted in the country’s most popular petition ever.

Over 560,000 people have signed up to show their support, and the figure is rising daily.

That means it’s well past the 100,000 signature benchmark that means Parliament will consider the topic for a debate.

The petition follows a number of high-profile marks made by the US Republican presidential candidate, including a call to ban Muslims from entering the US.

Trump also hit out at the UK’s supposed “massive Muslim problem” in a tweet:

“The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech,” reads the anti-Trump petition. “The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.”

It continues: “If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.”
Here’s a list of the top ten most-signed petitions to Parliament (of a total 4,109 at the time of writing) in the UK:

1. Block Donald J Trump from UK entry – 560,598
2. Stop all immigration and close UK borders until ISIS is defeated – 453,809
3. Accept more asylum seekers and increase support for refugee migrants in the UK – 448,269
4. Make the production, sale, and use of cannabis legal – 233,751
5. To debate a vote of no confidence in Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt – 227,517
6. Vote no on military action in Syria against IS in response to the Paris attacks –226,367
7. Stop allowing immigrants into the UK – 212,354
8. Vote no confidence in David Cameron – 196,607
9. No UK airstrikes on Syria – 188,482
10. Introduce tax on sugary drinks in the UK to improve children’s health –153,104

What do you make of the block-a-Trump petition?

Let us know in the comments.


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UK Parliament criticises Donald Trump, but won't ban him

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British MPs from all parties have denounced US presidential candidate Donald Trump, but he will not be banned from entering the country as suggested by a popular petition.

Don’t turn him into a victim – British MPs debate Trump ba

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A debate is underway in the UK on banning Donald Trump from Britain.
Source: Associated Press

More than 575,000 people signed the petition to ban Mr Trump from the UK due to his proposal to prevent Muslim people from entering the United States.

During a debate today, many MPs derided him, but the overall consensus was that banning him from entering was disproportionate and would likely be counter-intuitive.

The debate was held outside of the main Commons Chamber, and was non-binding, but was a good indicator of MPs' sentiment towards the 69-year-old property magnate.

MP Paul Flynn questioned what the point of the debate was at all, if it was non-binding, saying "we may already be in error in giving [Donald Trump] far too much attention".

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/worl...t-wont-ban-him