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    Trump's wall: How much has been built so far?

    Trump's wall: How much has been built so far?


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    In March last year Mr Trump secured $1.6bn from Congress for projects at the border.

    The US Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) has said this raised enough money to build approximately 100 miles of "border wall system".

    In the months that followed, the CBP said it has replaced about 14 miles of scrap metal barrier with a "bollard-style wall" in San Diego, built two miles of "primary wall" in California and 20 miles of "new border wall" in Santa Teresa, New Mexico.

    And in December 2018, the CBP contracted the US Army Corps of Engineers to construct up to 14 miles of "secondary wall" and up to 15 miles of primary pedestrian replacement wall in San Diego, Yuma, and El Centro Sectors.

    The bill approved by Congress stipulated that funds could go on primary and secondary "fencing", barrier planning and design, and border security technology. And money could be spent on new and replacement barriers that had been approved in a previous spending bill.

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    Also, in addition, the long-awaited Levee Wall in the Rio Grande Valley:

    Texas contractor wins $145 million contract to build border wall in Rio Grande Valley

    Updated on: November 5, 2018 / 5:33 PM / CBS/AP

    MCALLEN, Texas — Federal authorities have awarded a $145 million contract to a Texas company to build 6 miles of wall along the U.S.-Mexico border in the Rio Grande Valley. U.S. Customs and Border Patrol said Friday that SLSCO will begin construction of an 18-foot reinforced concrete levee wall in February in the agency's McAllen Station region. The company will also increase the height of existing fences.

    It will be the first section of President Trump's border barriers in the Rio Grande Valley, the busiest corridor for illegal crossings.

    The government recently completed construction of a 2-mile, 30-foot tall section of fencing along the border in California.

    Mr. Trump has been ramping up anti-immigration rhetoric heading into Tuesday's midterm elections and has ordered troops to the border to meet a caravan of Central American migrants slowly traveling through Mexico.

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo defended Mr. Trump's plan to send troops to the southern border, dismissing criticism that the move is motivated by politics ahead of the midterm elections.

    "We've made clear to them they need to undertake every effort they can to stop this illegal migration from entering the United States, and the president's made very clear they will not be permitted to enter our country unlawfully," Pompeo said on "Face the Nation" Sunday.

    He disputed that Mr. Trump's emphasis on hardening his immigration policies in recent weeks was aimed at rallying his base.

    "I've been involved in scores of conversations about stopping illegal immigration from Mexico and never once has there been a discussion of the political impact in U.S. domestic politics," Pompeo said. "It has always been about securing the safety of the American people and securing our southern border."

    First published on November 5, 2018

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/border-...grande-valley/
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    Then there's another 115 mile stretch of wall for Texas that he approved in late December for which ground-breaking is supposed to occur sometime in late January, I think January 29th.
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    These are important wall projects at high priority, high traffic areas, multiple locations across the 4 states of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas that are what Border Patrol, CBP and DHS want and need, and have wanted and needed for a very long time. This is great progress in my mind. Every high priority, high traffic area that gets a taller, stronger, better steel fence or a concrete levee wall that's sorely needed and long over-due is a big plus for our country, because BP says that where they put up these tall strong steel walls and concrete levee walls, illegal border crossings are reduced by 90-94%.

    And there will be more built this year that we don't know about yet. BP knows about them, they have a list, there's 10 more priority projects they want built within the next 2 years if possible, and I think Trump will find a way to get them the money, one way or another, to build them.

    So, I'm very happy with Trump's wall projects, and I don't think people should feel disappointed or let down by this. The big tall steel fences are beautiful. I prefer them over the concrete prototypes myself. I fully understand why BP wants the steel slat type fence so they can see through them. Makes perfect sense to me. If I were them, I'd want that, too.

    So, be happy, America! Everything is going very very well!! (Except for this eternally stupid shut-down, which has stopped everything .... UGH! Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!)

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    FACT CHECK: Trump Claims “Much Of The Wall” Has Been Built, “Mexico Is Paying For It”

    January 2, 2019 10:00 pm3


    President Donald Trump is, at once, demanding billions of dollars from the U.S. Treasury for a border wall and insisting the wall won’t really cost America anything.


    As he’s done before, Trump argued Wednesday that Mexico is footing the bill thanks to a revised trade agreement. That’s not true. If the wall is to be built, the money will need to come from Washington’s coffers and be approved by Congress. There is no mechanism in the trade agreement or anywhere else for Mexico to pay back the U.S. or for the money to be refunded to the Treasury.

    Trump also vastly overstated the number of people who are thought to be in the country illegally, retroactively declared that his defense chief who resigned was pushed out and raised what appear to be thin hopes for cheaper drug prices.
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    Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback!


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    A look at some of his statements Wednesday on Twitter and at a Cabinet meeting:

    IMMIGRATION

    TRUMP, on the number of immigrants living in the U.S. illegally: “I used to hear 11 million all the time. It would always stay right at 11. I said, ‘Does it ever increase or go down?’ ‘No, it’s 11.’ Nobody knows. It’s probably 30, 35 million people. They would flow in, mostly from the southern border, they’d come in and nobody would talk about it, nobody would do anything about it.” — Cabinet meeting.

    THE FACTS: It’s nowhere close to 30 million to 35 million, according to his own Homeland Security secretary as well as independent estimates.

    The nonpartisan Pew Research Center estimates there were 10.7 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally in 2016, the most recent data available. Advocacy groups on both sides of the immigration issue have similar estimates.

    At a House hearing last month, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen acknowledged the number was “somewhere” between 11 million and 22 million, significantly lower than Trump’s claim of 35 million.

    According to Pew, the number of immigrants in the U.S. illegally had reached a height of 12.2 million in 2007, representing about 4 percent of the U.S. population, before declining in part because of a weakening U.S. economy.
    ———
    TRUMP: “The coyotes are using children to gain access into this country. They’re using these children. They’re not with families. They’re using the children. They’re taking the children. And then they dispose of the children after they’re done. This has been going on for years. This isn’t unique to us. But we want to stop it.” — Cabinet meeting.
    THE FACTS: This does happen, though it’s not as common as Trump suggests by talking about it so often.

    He is referring to adults who come with children they falsely claim to be theirs, so that they won’t be detained under a no-child-separation policy.

    But such cases of fraud are rare. According to the Homeland Security Department, about 500 immigrants were found to be not a “legitimate family unit” and thus separated upon detention from April 19 to Sept. 30 of last year. That’s a small fraction of the 107,000 families apprehended in the last budget year, which ended Sept. 30.
    ———
    DRUG PRICES

    TRUMP: “I think you’re going to see a tremendous reduction in drug prices.” — Cabinet meeting.

    THE FACTS: Prices continue to rise. Administration policies announced last year and currently being completed don’t seem to have shifted that trend.

    Figures on U.S. prescription drug price changes compiled by health data company Elsevier show that from Dec. 20 through Jan. 2, there were 1,179 product price changes. Of those, 30 were price cuts and the remaining 1,149 were price increases, with 328 of them between 9 percent and 10 percent. All but one of the rest were by lower percentages. Elsevier spokesman Chris Capot said more companies will be announcing price increases this month.

    Separately, a data firm whose software can help patients find the most cost-effective medications says its information shows price increases on many commonly used drugs for conditions such as high blood pressure and diabetes.

    “In the first two days of January, prices have increased on more than 250 different products,” said Michael Rea, CEO of Rx Savings Solutions. The average increase is about 6 percent, he added.
    ———

    MATTIS

    TRUMP, on Jim Mattis: “I wish him well. I hope he does well. But, as you know, President (Barack) Obama fired him and essentially so did I. I want results.” — Cabinet meeting.
    THE FACTS: Actually, Mattis resigned as defense secretary in protest over Trump’s decision to pull U.S. troops from Syria.

    The retired Marine general announced on Dec. 20 in a resignation letter that he was stepping down after Trump’s decision to withdraw 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria. Mattis said he would stay on the job until the end of February. Three days later, Trump abruptly said he was replacing Mattis with the second-ranking defense official, Pat Shanahan, on Jan. 1.

    As to the tenure under Obama, Mattis served as commander of the military’s Central Command. He departed a few months earlier than expected in 2013, in part because of disagreements over Iran.
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    THE WALL

    TRUMP: “Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback!” — tweet.

    THE FACTS: Mexico isn’t paying. It’s also not true that there’s been much construction beyond fencing erected during previous administrations; some renovation of the existing barrier has been achieved.

    Trump is arguing, in essence, that the updated trade pact with Mexico and Canada, known as the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement, will yield economic benefits to the U.S. that, years from now, will cover the unrelated costs of the wall today. That assertion doesn’t hold water even with those who support his push for a wall. He went further at a Cabinet meeting Wednesday, contending the wall will pay for itself on a “monthly basis.”

    The new trade deal won’t change that much from the previous North American Free Trade Agreement. The three countries would continue trading in an environment of mainly low or no tariffs, with certain improvements for all three partners from the terms of NAFTA. Moreover, the new deal isn’t in effect. It’s awaiting ratification from legislative bodies in each country, and that is not assured.

    There is no credible way for Trump to forecast additional growth covering costs that are being charged to U.S. taxpayers if the wall is built. Trade balances depend on too many factors — consumer tastes, exchange rates, overall economic performance and the choices of thousands of companies, for example — and some are well outside any government’s control. Trump specifically promised in his 2016 campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall. It is not doing so.

    Trump’s case is also built on a mischaracterization of trade balances. Unlike economists and governments, he considers a trade deficit to be a payment to the exporting country. By that argument, if a trade deficit shrinks, the U.S. is saving money. But that’s not how trade works. Consumers create a trade deficit by buying products made abroad. They get value for their purchase — the products — and are not giving money away.

    Trump’s claim that much of the “Wall has already been fully renovated or built” is only supported when counting work done by past administrations and ignoring the fact that fences are not the towering walls he promised. The 2006 Secure Fence Act has resulted in about 650 miles (1,050 kilometers) of border barrier. Money approved by Congress in March 2018 is to pay for 84 miles (135 km), but that work is not done.

    Trump’s point that the national security benefits would outweigh the economic cost is a legitimate one to debate. But the notion that U.S. taxpayers would not be covering the cost is baseless.

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    Fox News' Laura Ingraham calls out Trump's big border wall lie: "There's no wall!"

    Laura Ingraham took issue with Trump claiming that much of the wall has been built when that isn't true

    https://www.salon.com/2018/12/12/fox-newss-laura-ingraham-trumps-big-border-wall-lie-stop-saying-its-a-wall-theres-no-wall/

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    ANN COULTER SAYS TRUMP MAY HAVE BEEN ‘SCAMMING VOTERS’ WITH WALL PROMISE, PREDICTS HE WON’T BE RE-ELECTED

    BY TIM MARCIN ON 12/19/18 AT 2:32 PM


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    Far-right commentator Ann Coulter insulted President Donald Trump on Wednesday over his inability to get his long-promised wall built along the southern border of the United States.

    In an interview with the conservative Daily Caller, Coulter—who has previously called out Trump about the wall—said she worried that the president might be missing his last shot to get his wall built, considering Democrats would soon control the House of Representatives.

    "Either Trump never intended to build a wall and was scamming voters from the beginning or he hasn’t the first idea in how to get it done and no interest in finding out," Coulter told The Daily Caller. "My prediction is his support will evaporate and Trump will very likely not finish his term and definitely not be elected to a second term."




    Ann Coulter speaks at the Los Angeles Convention Center on October 20, in Los Angeles. She slammed President Donald Trump over his inability to get his promised border wall funded, and predicted he wouldn’t finish term or be re-elected.RICH POLK/GETTY IMAGES FOR POLITICON The controversial Coulter—author of the books In Trump We Trust: E Pluribus Awesome! and Resistance Is Futile!: How the Trump-Hating Left Lost Its Collective Mind—has often attacked Trump over not getting the wall done. Earlier this month, she tweeted in response to a Washington Post article about the wall:

    "Even a Washington Post reporter knows that not 1 inch of Trump's wall has been built. Does Trump think his supporters are dumber than a WaPo reporter?"

    Trump, meanwhile, has insisted he'll get the wall built, even as Congress pushed forward legislation to fund the government despite the president threatening to shut it down over border wall funding.

    "In our Country, so much money has been poured down the drain, for so many years, but when it comes to Border Security and the Military, the Democrats fight to the death. We won on the Military, which is being completely rebuilt. One way or the other, we will win on the Wall!" Trump tweeted earlier on Wednesday.

    The White House had said it would look to redirect funds from elsewhere to build the wall, an idea Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi shot down quickly.

    “The House and Senate will not approve a wall from reprogrammed funds or anything else. It won’t happen,” Schumer said.

    https://www.newsweek.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-border-wall-1265332


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    LOL!! I can only imagine what the men and women of US Border Patrol, US Customs Border Police, US Customs and Border Protection, US Department of Homeland Security, and the US Army Corps of Engineers and the border wall contractors think when they read that stuff of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL!! I can only imagine what the men and women of US Border Patrol, US Customs Border Police, US Customs and Border Protection, US Department of Homeland Security, and the US Army Corps of Engineers and the border wall contractors think when they read that stuff of yours.
    Huh?? What stuff of mine are you talking about? Hey, I don't write the articles! Furthermore, I suppose the folks you're talking about will pretty much say what Trump directs them to say ..... pretty much anyway.

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    Yeah, that's right, everyone is a Trump Puppet, but you.

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