Thread: Turkey decided to cancel German Immigration Laws

This month German president signed new immigration law. Turkey claims that the new law is discriminatory and decided to use all available means to cancel this law.

Just a mirror situation to the USA versus Mexico.

Sorry, the text is in German:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/I...art123,2363435

And yes, new German law finally does something with their very unfortunate situation. Big business and Turkey are angry!

Good for Germany. Hopefully all of the West follows suit.

TODAY'S ZAMAN
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=120198

Turkish groups frustrated over German immigration law The reaction of Turks living in Germany ranged from disappointment to pure fury yesterday after German President Horst Koehler approved a contentious immigration law which they say is discriminatory.
Tuesday's approval, which made the law final, dashed any remaining hope that the law might be prevented from going into effect on the grounds of lack of compliance with constitutional principles. A spokesman for the presidency said on Tuesday that no non-compliance between the law and the Constitution had been detected.


"It was what we expected," said a spokesman for the Association of Turkish Entrepreneurs in Germany, speaking to Today's Zaman on the phone. Expressing deep concern about the future effects of the law, he said, "This will really make integration difficult." Remzi Kaplan, director of the association, said: "Of course we don't appreciate what happened. But now we have to cope with it. Life will become very difficult in particular for those people who don't know the details of the law and those who can't pay attorneys to defend their interests." Asked whether the Turks are planning any appeal against the law, he said he did not expect any such move to get it annulled.


In a statement the Turkish Foreign Ministry expressed disappointment yesterday that Turkish efforts to prevent the law from going into effect did not produce any result and called on the Turks to seek legal remedies against the law in international courts, ostensibly referring to the European Court of Human Rights.


The main point of contention in connection with the new law is a provision that makes a foreigner who wants to bring his or her spouse to Germany prove that the partner can earn a living and has some knowledge of German. The rules do not apply to German nationals bringing a foreign spouse into the country or to immigrants from within the EU or countries like Australia, Israel, Japan and the United States.
"To be honest, Germany simply no longer wants to have further migration from the East -- and especially from Turkey," said Celal Altun, president of the Turkish Community in Berlin. "This law was not intended to better integrate immigrants in German society as the government claimed; this law is simply used to reduce immigration in general." According to Altun, the Turks in Germany are "very scared" now as the law seriously undermines "trust" in the German government.


"There are certain provisions in the law that were clearly addressed only to Turks. How do you think a poor woman from eastern Anatolia can find a language course to learn German in her hometown? And even if she does, how can she pay?" he asks, referring to the provision that makes it compulsory for partners from Turkey and some other countries to have basic German skills.


Altun said fears over "Turkification" of German society were gaining ground and warned that political steps like this law could have risky outcomes for social peace.


Appeal to the European court
Contrary to other Turkish representatives who say they are unwilling to lodge an appeal against the law in Germany or at the European Court of Human Rights, Altun said his organization was determined to fight back. "Now we will take the legal path to stop this law. We will begin drafting a legal appeal," he said.


Altun said the Turkish Community in Berlin was planning to go directly to the European Court of Human Rights because of the legal obstacles facing an association in applying to the German Federal Constitutional Court. He also said he saw a good chance that the Turkish group's appeal would be successful. "The point is that the law obviously contains rules that are discriminatory; they introduce exceptions just for Turks. Thus, they violate the principle of equality and are not in accordance with the European Convention on Human Rights," he said.

23.08.2007 News
KRISTINA KAMP

Turkey isn't part of the EU is it Lugundum? They shouldn't be considering they
still oppress people of other faiths and deny the armenian genocide.

Good luck stopping them Lugundum, I'm sure the Turkish government doesn't have the best interests of the German people at heart.

It's funny how all islamic countries oppress or murder people of other faiths
(e.g. N. Africa, Eritrea, Lebanon) yet demand everyone else respect their faith.

Looks like we're not the only one having trouble. What is it, anyway, a fad lately to invade another country. Any country should have the right to control immigration if they feel it is necessary.

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am

Turkey isn't part of the EU is it Lugundum? They shouldn't be considering they
still oppress people of other faiths and deny the armenian genocide.

Good luck stopping them Lugundum, I'm sure the Turkish government doesn't have the best interests of the German people at heart.

It's funny how all islamic countries oppress or murder people of other faiths
(e.g. N. Africa, Eritrea, Lebanon) yet demand everyone else respect their faith.

Turkey is not an EU member. Not yet. But EU leaders, Turkish govt. and your govt. are pushing hard for accession.

If they join we are finished. Simple as that. This would be like US-Mexico merger for you. There would be no tomorrow for our civilization then.

Turkey is not a European country, simple as that case closed. They only have a small amount of territory that is technically considered to be in Europe, but is in no way culturally European.

Why the hell don't they stay in their own country? If my neighbor doesn't want me at her home, I can respect that. IT'S HER HOME!!!

Originally Posted by Lugundum

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am

Turkey isn't part of the EU is it Lugundum? They shouldn't be considering they
still oppress people of other faiths and deny the armenian genocide.

Good luck stopping them Lugundum, I'm sure the Turkish government doesn't have the best interests of the German people at heart.

It's funny how all islamic countries oppress or murder people of other faiths
(e.g. N. Africa, Eritrea, Lebanon) yet demand everyone else respect their faith.

Turkey is not an EU member. Not yet. But EU leaders, Turkish govt. and your govt. are pushing hard for accession.

If they join we are finished. Simple as that. This would be like US-Mexico merger for you. There would be no tomorrow for our civilization then.

Are you from Europe Lugundum? Looks like the European gov'ts care about their people about as much as Washington cares about us. Europeans don't want Turkey in the EU. End of argument. And Washington should stay the hell out of it. Bush and his CFR cronies are pushing for world government everywhere. We really need to squash this.