Thread: An article full of lies posted by fake alipac

Here is another foolhardy article posted in the alipac forum this time of which I will pick apart piece by piece in here:


http://www.wctrib.com/articles/index.cf ... on=Opinion

Editorial: Willmar and region benefit from our diversity; caution needed immigrant discussion
Tribune Opinion
West Central Tribune - 04/14/2007

Willmar is experiencing the front line of the immigration debate currently going on in America.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have been conducting investigations in Willmar in recent days. According to an ICE spokesman, the agency is searching for specific individuals and not conducting sweeping raids.

At the same time, Latino immigrants here legally and those without proper papers have lived in fear in recent days.

The community has also been dealing with rumors and considerable dialogue. Some are celebrating the ICE actions in Willmar. Others are criticizing the ICE actions here.

Care should be used by all concerned, and everyone should be cautious in their comments.

Many Latinos in Willmar are here legally. Many were born here in the United States and are citizens. Others have obtained legal immigration status.

Yes, there are some here illegally. If an individual is picked up by ICE, the individual then has to deal with his (or her) own immigration status. It is not reason for celebration.

To stereotype all Latinos as “illegals” or less than valuable people is just being racist. It is the same as making a derogatory comment about blacks or American Indians. It is the same as believing that “no Irish need apply” or that all people of Japanese descent were spies during World War II.

Racism is defined as a “hatred or intolerance of another race.” There is no place for such beliefs in Willmar.

To fear people just because they speak Spanish or Somali is not needed. Past immigrants have spoken Norwegian, German, Italian, Polish, Russian, French, Vietnamese, Hmong and other languages. Latinos and Somalis are no different than past immigrants.

Willmar and west central Minnesota have a long history of immigration going all the way back to the 19th century. This city has come a long way in embracing the new immigrants in the past decade.

Without new immigrants, the Willmar community would be hurting. Businesses would have fewer available employees, schools would have fewer students and there would be fewer customers.

The new immigrants are valuable employees, bright students and new customers. Willmar and west central Minnesota should continue to embrace our new diversity.

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Why would legal hispanics in this country not have papers? Who the hell stereotypes latinos as all being here illegally? No one, nada!

There is no "fear" of Spanish speakers in this country, it is just a matter of non-assimilation out in public. Yes, with the first immigrants there were many languages spoken but they all assimilated to the English language as their primary language in a short period of time. Yes, latinos are different in that respect compared to those first immigrants. Their numbers are a whole lot bigger too, a lot due to the millions that are here illegally so they feel no need to assimilate in that way, nor do many of them desire too.

Wilmar is embracing the "new immigrants"? This is obviously a code word for "illegal aliens". Any community that embraces such are un-American as it is against the laws of this country.

A community that says it couldn't thrive without an illegal alien population is also making un-American remarks. There would be fewer students in their schools? lol, thats a bad thing?

Embracing legal immgrants is one thing but embracing illegal aliens is quite another. What, we can't have diversity unless we have illegal aliens in our communities? This whole article is full of nothing but anti-American hogwash!

Racism is defined as a “hatred or intolerance of another race

Tell that to La Raza, Mecha, Aztlan.. Practice what you preach.


ALIPAC is not racist. Illegal immigration is a law and order issue! Any race that is here illegally has to be deported or leave on their own.

LOL, the idiots I posted this article because I agree with it? They really have reading comprehension problems over there. I posted it so I could break it down piece by piece and show what misleading lies there were in it!!!! And that is exactly what I did! How can anyone be that stupid as to not see the real purpose for posting it?

We already debated you in your little playground long ago and look what happened. So it is your turn now to debate on our terms this time. Again, why don't you cowards go over to the modbee forum and debate with us where there is no bias involved? Can you do that without using the words xeno, racists, white supremists, etc. Is that why you won't go over there because you can't do that? I can guarantee I will not call anyone any defaming names once the debate has begun. I can debate like an adult, can you?

Oldglory wrote:

LOL, the idiots at alipac(dot)net think I posted this article because I agree with it? They really have reading comprehension problems over there. I posted it so I could break it down piece by piece and show what misleading lies there were in it!!!! And that is exactly what I did! How can anyone be that stupid as to not see the real purpose for posting it?

It is like everything else they do, they know they are in the wrong but try to make it appear that they are victims. Yeah, they are victims alright, victims of their own lack of respect for the law and stupidity at crossing the border illegally. They need to go back to square one and that happens to be in their homeland of Mexico.

April, the thing is that most of the members of those two forums are legal U.S. citizens! That is what is so disgusting about it.

Here is a hot one posted in the HB forum today. Two of their members are claiming that the 280 million Americans alive today are foreigners in our own land! They were born here, how can they be foreigners? If they are trying to claim that our ancestors were illegal aliens, well you know the 14th Amendment that these pro-illegals cling to so that children of the current day illegals can gain birthright citizenship, doesn't that apply to everyone then? Oh, maybe it is only for the brown illegals? Hypocrites!

Funny about me being here illegally....My Grandfather was an American Major General in the American Revolutionary War and a Congressman from Massachusetts. President Adams described him as "universally esteemed, beloved and confided in by his army and his country." He was born in Shrewsbury, MA, in 1727 to Nahum (1684-1754) and Martha Ward.
He graduated from Harvard in 1748 and taught there briefly.

In 1775 the militia was restructured for war, and Ward was made a major in the 3rd Regiment. In the growing sentiment favoring rebellion, the 3rd Regiment resigned en mass from Birish service on October, 3, 1774. They marched to Shrewbury to inform Colonel Ward that they had unanimously elected him their leader and setting up a colony-wide Committee of Safety. One of first actions of the Committee was to name Ward as General and commander-in-chief of the colony's militia.

Meanwhile, the Continental Congress was creating a Continental Army. On June 16 they named Ward a Major General, and second in command to General Washington. He helped convert the assembled militia units into the Continental Army.

Even during his military service, Ward served as a state court justice in 1776 and 1777. He was President of the state's Executive Council from 1777-1779, which effectively made him the governor - before the 1780 ratification of the Massachusetts Constitution. He was continuously elected to the Massachusetts House of Representatives for each year from 1779-1785. He also served as a delegate to the Continental Congress in 1780 and 1781. Ward was speaker of the Massachusetts House in 1785. He was elected twice to the United States House of Representatives, serving from 1791 to 1795.

So, someone that broke the law and crawled into this country an recently tells me I am here illegally and should leave....not in this life time!

This is another article I found posted in the fake alipac forum. It isn't about lies but it just goes to show you how they and other pro-illegals defy our laws that are already in place about illegal aliens. They think any form of government should be sued for following the law.

Breaking News: Woman denied marriage license sues county official 3:45 p.m.

http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/ne ... 5898&rfi=6
BY: WADE MALCOLM
STAFF WRITER
04/18/2007

A West Hazleton woman has filed a federal lawsuit against a Luzerne County official who denied her a marriage license Monday because her fiancé is an illegal immigrant, according to a press release.


The American Civil Liberties Union is representing Heather Buck, a 30-year-old U.S. citizen, who says the county's Register of Wills, Dottie Stankovic, denied her a license to marry Jose Arias-Maravilla, the father of her infant son and an illegal immigrant from Mexico.

Stankovic has said her office refuses to issue marriage license to non-citizens if they do not show a current visa or green card because state law requires her to positively identify all applicants. The office can not verify a person's identity if his or her immigration documents are expired or non-existent, she has said in the past.

Stankovic's policy is based on an interpretation of the state marriage law, which does not explicitly say illegal immigrants cannot obtain marriage licenses. As a result, counties throughout the area and the state have different rules. Lackawanna County has a similar policy, while Pike
County has no policy, officials in those counties have said.

The ACLU said it filed the suit today in the Scranton federal courthouse before issuing the press release this afternoon.

Stankovic was not immediately reached for comment.
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Note in paragraph three where the country official is only following the laws in place in granting marriage licences which is what they should do but the pro-illegals in alipac are all for the ACLU (another traitorous group) suing government officials for following the law!

Originally Posted by Americanpatriot

Funny about me being here illegally....My Grandfather was an American Major General in the American Revolutionary War and a Congressman from Massachusetts. President Adams described him as "universally esteemed, beloved and confided in by his army and his country." He was born in Shrewsbury, MA, in 1727 to Nahum (1684-1754) and Martha Ward.
He graduated from Harvard in 1748 and taught there briefly.

If your grandfather was in the revolutionary war, wouldn't that make you about 200 years old? Now thats more immpressive than your article.