Thread: UNC Chancellor Responds to Tancredo Protest

jw62, it was about 20 minutes after the top of hour and they used quite a bit of video footage from W. Eastern time, CNN reruns Dobbs at 4 am.

Originally Posted by Populist

Our Division of Student Affairs is also investigating student involvement in the protest. If that investigation determines sufficient evidence, participating students could face Honor
Court proceedings.

I believe the following may apply to this (there could be more in the link below; this is what I found after a brief review):

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C. Student Conduct Adversely Affecting Members of University Community or the University.

It shall be the responsibility of every student enrolled at the University of North Carolina to refrain from conduct that impairs or may impair the right of all members of the University community to learn and thrive in a safe and respectful environment; or the capacity of University and associated personnel to perform their duties, manage resources, protect the safety and welfare of members of the University community, and maintain the integrity of the University. To these ends, no student or student group shall engage in conduct, or assist another in conduct, that adversely affects or creates a substantial risk of adversely affecting University interests including but not limited to the following:

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k. Engaging in violent, forceful, threatening, intimidating, or disruptive conduct, or inciting others to engage in such individual or collective conduct, that willfully disrupts any normal operation, function, or activity of the University or any of its organizations, personnel, or guests.

l. Engaging in conduct, or inciting others to engage in conduct that improperly restrains freedom of movement, speech, assembly, or access to premises or activities by any individual who is a member of the University community or guest of the University or of any of its organizations in connection with that individual’s performance of legitimate activities or duties within or at the University.

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2. Conduct Affecting Property.
a. Stealing, destroying, damaging or misusing property belonging to the University or another individual or entity.

http://instrument.unc.edu/instrument.te ... ngproperty

Good catch Populist! Thank you for posting this.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Yes! This is exactly what we hoped to hear. Yes, we need them to eventually focus in on the staff involved because I could tell at the event that many of the professors helping the protesters were ring leaders.

This is a major break through!

W

Absolutely, the teacher who was yelling about the taser and pepper spray was one of them.

"UNC graduate student Tyler Oakley, who had organized the protest, said he regretted the broken window but not silencing Tancredo. "He was not able to practice his hate speech," said Oakley. "You have to respect the right of people to assemble and collectively speak.""


Did that person really make this comment

You have to respect the right of people to assemble and collectively speak

which is exactly what he stopped Tom Tancredo from doing?

That Oakley person must not be playing with a full deck.

Originally Posted by Dianne

"UNC graduate student Tyler Oakley, who had organized the protest, said he regretted the broken window but not silencing Tancredo. "He was not able to practice his hate speech," said Oakley. "You have to respect the right of people to assemble and collectively speak.""


Did that person really make this comment

You have to respect the right of people to assemble and collectively speak

which is exactly what he stopped Tom Tancredo from doing?

That Oakley person must not be playing with a full deck.

He is like all leftist extremists, he believes only he and his gang have the right to free speech. They pretty much did themselves in when they pulled this stunt. I am very proud of Tom and W for the way they conducted themselves.

Originally Posted by apropos

UNC Chancellor Responds to Tancredo Protest

URL: http://www.unc.edu/chan/chancellors/tho ... speech.php

Free Speech at Carolina

Campus e-mail sent to all students, faculty and staff on Wednesday, April 15, 2009, by Chancellor Thorp

I want to express how disappointed I am in what happened last night when former Congressman Tom Tancredo wasn't able to speak when a protest got out of hand, and our Department of Public Safety had to take action. Congressman Tancredo felt threatened and left without making his remarks.

Mr. Tancredo was scheduled to speak about immigration. We expect protests about controversial subjects at Carolina. That's part of our culture. But we also pride ourselves on being a place where all points of view can be expressed and heard. There's a way to protest that respects free speech and allows people with opposing views to be heard. Here that's often meant that groups protesting a speaker have displayed signs or banners, silently expressing their opinions while the speaker had his or her say. That didn't happen last night.

On behalf of our University community, I called Mr. Tancredo today to apologize for how he was treated. In addition, our Department of Public Safety is investigating this incident. They will pursue criminal charges if any are warranted. Our Division of Student Affairs is also investigating student involvement in the protest. If that investigation determines sufficient evidence, participating students could face Honor
Court proceedings.

Carolina's tradition of free speech is a fundamental part of what has made this place special for more than 200 years. Let's recommit ourselves to that ideal.

Sincerely,

Holden Thorp

Well this is all nice and everything....after the fact. However, their department of Public Safety need to be investigated as well. They should have arrested people on the spot and avoid having it get this far out of control.

The real thugs and criminals show their face...they should be in jail and Tancredo should have the opportunity to come back and speak!

Its is hard to believe that school had no more control than that, they should have called in the police and let them arrest the trouble makers!

Tancredo deserves more than an apology. how about a free trip back and a chance to do what should have been allowed him in the first place....his freedom of speech.

After they tried to silence Mr. Tancredo, I bet that rabid, angry mob met up somewhere, waved their fists shouting something like "we showed him!" while waving Mexican flags.The only thing these idiots have shown is that instead of having a peaceful protest or some type of friendly debate, they resorted to violence as most pro-illegals do.

I honestly hope that Mr. Tancredo goes back there and speaks his mind letting these individuals know that they cannot use violence in order to silence someone from speaking the truth.

Originally Posted by Populist

Our Division of Student Affairs is also investigating student involvement in the protest. If that investigation determines sufficient evidence, participating students could face Honor
Court proceedings.

I believe the following may apply to this (there could be more in the link below; this is what I found after a brief review):

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C. Student Conduct Adversely Affecting Members of University Community or the University.

It shall be the responsibility of every student enrolled at the University of North Carolina to refrain from conduct that impairs or may impair the right of all members of the University community to learn and thrive in a safe and respectful environment; or the capacity of University and associated personnel to perform their duties, manage resources, protect the safety and welfare of members of the University community, and maintain the integrity of the University. To these ends, no student or student group shall engage in conduct, or assist another in conduct, that adversely affects or creates a substantial risk of adversely affecting University interests including but not limited to the following:

...

k. Engaging in violent, forceful, threatening, intimidating, or disruptive conduct, or inciting others to engage in such individual or collective conduct, that willfully disrupts any normal operation, function, or activity of the University or any of its organizations, personnel, or guests.

l. Engaging in conduct, or inciting others to engage in conduct that improperly restrains freedom of movement, speech, assembly, or access to premises or activities by any individual who is a member of the University community or guest of the University or of any of its organizations in connection with that individual’s performance of legitimate activities or duties within or at the University.

...

2. Conduct Affecting Property.
a. Stealing, destroying, damaging or misusing property belonging to the University or another individual or entity.

http://instrument.unc.edu/instrument.te ... ngproperty

There was MUCH more which seems to apply to this Populist.

It looks like these little know-nothings just may have bought themselves a whole lot of trouble they didn't bargain for.


II. Offenses Under the Honor Code

A. General Responsibilities.
It shall be the responsibility of every student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to:

1. Obey and support the enforcement of the Honor Code;

3. Conduct themselves so as not to impair significantly the welfare or the educational opportunities of others in the University community; and

4. Refrain from conduct that impairs or may impair the capacity of University and associated personnel to perform their duties, manage resources, protect the safety and welfare of members of the University community, and maintain the integrity of the University.

1. Conduct Affecting Persons.
a. Fighting or other conduct that unreasonably endangers or inflicts physical injury upon another.


c. Harassment or intimidation that abuses, disparages, or otherwise interferes with another so as to adversely affect their academic pursuits, opportunities for University employment, participation in University-sponsored extracurricular activities, or opportunities to benefit from other aspects of University life.


e. Discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, creed, sexual orientation, gender expression, age, or disability that impairs or may impair an individual’s University working conditions, privileges or opportunities for University employment, educational opportunities, participation in University-sponsored extracurricular activities, or opportunities to benefit from other aspects of University life.


Remember all of the garbage about White Supremecists/Supremecy they were spouting and had on their signs? Also, what about the minority students who were directing disparaging remarks toward Tom and other non-minorities?

. Engaging in recklessly dangerous, disorderly or obscene conduct affecting University interests, students or other personnel.

o. Misusing, removing, tampering with, or otherwise making less effective, equipment (including but not limited to, fire extinguishers, fire alarms, smoke detectors, and emergency call boxes), intended for use in improving or protecting the safety of members of the University community, either on University premises or on the premises of a student organization officially recognized by the University.


They set off the fire alarms Aside from violating UNC rules and policies, this could also result in criminal charges, fines, etc. because, when they triggered the alarms it automatically brought the Fire Dept. out to the campus on a false alarm.


3. Conduct Affecting the Integrity of the University.

a. Knowingly abusing a position of trust or responsibility within the University community.

f. Knowingly violating officially adopted University policies designed to protect the integrity and welfare of the University and members of the campus community.

4. Group Offenses. Societies, clubs, or similar organized groups in or recognized by the University are subject to the same standards as are individual members of the University community. The commission of any offense within this section by such a group or its members acting in concert, or the failure of such a group to exercise preventive measures relative to violations of the Honor Code by its members shall constitute a group offense that may be sanctioned in addition to sanctions imposed for offenses by individual students.

D. Application to Students Acting in Capacity of University Instructors or Employees. Where conduct prohibited by provisions of Section II involves a student acting in the capacity of University instructor or employee, such conduct may be addressed under pertinent University policies such as those relating to sexual misconduct, discrimination, harassment, falsification of information, or misuse of University resources, rather than under this Instrument, if handling under such applicable University policies is deemed to be more appropriate by responsible University officials in their sole discretion.