Thread: Updates on Elvira anyone?

I was looking for updates on Elvira Arellano. No new hits. They must be keeping her under wraps. But I decided to post a couple of them even though they're older. Because what's behind them is a big factor in what's going on with more problems in this country than just illegal immigration. I haven't seen much discussion about it here yet; but we know it pervades all of this. Socialism-Communism.

http://www.socialistworker.org/2006-...4_Elvira.shtml

http://rwor.org/a/058/arellano-en.html

Can anyone confirm that Elvira is still in Chicago?

Originally Posted by MW

Can anyone confirm that Elvira is still in Chicago?

Good question for ICE, MW.

I think she is still sitting in that church. If she was gone we would have heard about it by either side or both. it could not be kept quiet.

Why should she leave the church? she is setting being given everything and receiving taxpayer funds for her son (?). She doesn't have to work!Where is the father? She probably goes out to have her freedom but everyone including ICE isn't saying anything. If the American people found out that she is going out of the church, ICE would need to do something. She has her freedom, taxpayer dollars, and whatever she wants.

She was still there according to a 12/21/6 Chicago Sun Times article.

But, hey, she snuck across the border twice and border agents didn't catch her.

Who knows?

Maybe they've got her medicated and in a straight jacket after being cooped up in her room for so many months.

Beckyal wrote:

If the American people found out that she is going out of the church, ICE would need to do something.

Maybe it is time for we Americans to RUSH the church and escort her out while others of us drive ICE in their van to her location......maybe if we do it all for them it will get done! Dixie could help them fill out the paperwork to get her the he__ out of here. Had_enuf and MW could make the ride with ICE to make sure she gets dropped off in her homeland. TEAM EFFORT!!!! I love that visual!!!

April wrote:

Had_enuf and MW could make the ride with ICE to make sure she gets dropped off in her homeland. TEAM EFFORT!!!! I love that visual!!!

I'm game! Heck, I'll even bring coloring books to keep Saul busy. After all, isn't that what kids his age are supposed to be doing?

I wonder if the the state of Illinoise laws regarding "citizens arrest" are similar to California's.

CITIZEN'S ARREST - from Study Guide

A citizen's arrest is a formal arrest by a citizen has no official government authority to make such an arrest as an agent of the government. The California Penal Code gives any citizen the right to make a citizen's arrest of another citizen in three alternative situations:

A public offense was committed or attempted in the citizen's presence.

The person arrested has committed a felony, although not in the citizen's presence.

A felony has been in fact committed and the citizen has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested has committed it.

Why do we need a statute like this? Why do we need a "citizen's arrest"? Well, as the crime rate goes up, it becomes more and more important that good citizens come to the aid of one another in distress. Without such a statute, only government agents, such as police, would have the authority to stop a felon in progress. By creating the "citizen's arrest" statute we give ordinary citizens the authority to hold another citizen without fear of being sued for false imprisonment. Without the statute, the citizen who interfered in criminal activity would risk such a lawsuit.

Even with such a statute, the citizen still risks being sued if he/she is wrong on his assessment of the situation. Notice that the statute requires that the "public offense" be in the citizen's presence, or that the person arrested have committed a "felony," that is, a crime punishable by one year or more in state prison. Do you know which crimes are punishable by one or more years in state prison? Can you be absolutely sure the person you are arresting is the one who committed the offense? What if there were three people involved? Can you be sure which one is the one you should arrest? At the very least, a defense lawyer is going to argue that the requirements for citizen's arrest were not met and that the arrest, and any consequent seizure of contraband, were illegal.

Elvira is guilty of a felony because she returned to the country after formally being deported. Furthermore, she is guilty of SSN fraud.

A felony has been in fact committed and the citizen has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested has committed it.