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    VT Judge may have to toss Cruz, Rubio & Jindal off of state's ballot

    This is from Jan. 1 but I just saw it for the first time. I'm looking for followup articles.

    Breaking: VT Judge may have to toss Cruz, Rubio & Jindal off of state's ballot

    January 1, 2016 7:20 PM MST

    Could there be 2 less candidates on the ballot in VT?
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    Although Bobby Jindal has already dropped out of the race, the 3 Republican contenders for the GOP nomination for President were all originally listed in an eligibility challenge filed in Vermont back in December.


    The plaintiff, H. Brooke Paige had previously filed court challenges against the alleged ineligibility of Obama in reference to the natural-born citizen requirement contained in the US Constitution.

    That case eventually found its way to Vermont's State Supreme Court. According to a report in the Burlington Free Press on October 13, 2013, "The high court ruled 5-0 that Paige’s contention was moot, because Obama won re-election in 2012 and by law is prevented from running for a third term." Paige alleges that the state's Attorney General, William Sorrell, may have played a role in causing that case to be dragged out so long.

    This time, Paige included Sorrell as a plaintiff both personally and in his official capacity as Vermont's AG in this new lawsuit against Cruz, Rubio and Jindal.


    This new lawsuit has been closely followed and reported on at Citizen Wells which appears to be getting direct updates from the plaintiff. After the Secretary of State and Attorney General were duly served on December 11, 2015, they had 20 days in which to file a response to the court which made the deadline December 31, 2015 by close of business at 4:30 pm. According to the latest interesting development reported by Citizen Wells:

    Mr. Paige waited until the bailiff came by to lock up the courthouse – no timely response was by A/G Sorrell’s office on behalf of the State, Secretary of State Jim Condos or Attorney General William Sorrell (who is himself named as a co-defendant as a result of his intentional misconduct in Mr. Paige’s prior ballot challenge before the court)

    Paige now intends to file a "Notice of Default" to the court on Monday morning. Could we finally see ineligible presidential candidates thrown off a state's primary ballot due to default on an eligibility challenge? The American people by now will not believe it until they actually see it. Let's hope there is finally an inkling of some shred of justice in this matter.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/brea...state-s-ballot
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    You probably haven't heard much about it because no one is taking it seriously.

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    Vermont Cruz Rubio eligibility lawsuit update January 18, 2016,

    Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio served summons and amended complaint, H. Brooke Paige hired process servers Baker Investigations



    Posted on January 18, 2016 | 14 Comments

    Vermont Cruz Rubio eligibility lawsuit update January 18, 2016, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio served summons and amended complaint, H. Brooke Paige hired process servers Baker Investigations.

    “To his kind of judge, Cruz ironically wouldn’t be eligible, because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and ’90s required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a “natural born” citizen. Even having two US parents wouldn’t suffice. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.”


    Just in from Mr. H. Brooke Paige, plaintiff in the complaint against the State of Vermont, Secretary of State James Condos and Attorney General William Sorrell.

    “Superior Court Judge Timothy Tomasi granted Plaintiff’s motion to file an amended complaint. The State filed an opposition brief limited to the issue of the Motion for a TRO, they have yet to Answer the Verified Complaint and have been given until January 26 to answer or be found in default. Plaintiff filed his amended brief naming Cruz and Rubio as indispensable parties since their Petitions and Consent Forms were confirmed by the Secretary of
    State. ”


    “Wednesday
    the Judge scheduled a hearing on the TRO for Friday the 15th. On Friday the Plaintiff filed his Response to Defendant’s Opposition Brief and the Hearing was attended by Plaintiff and State Defendants who had summoned the Director of Elections to testify.

    Substantive evidence was provided by the Plaintiff and confirmed under oath by the Director of Elections under cross-examination revealing numerous defects and errors in the process and procedures including counting signatures of many individuals who were not registered.

    In dozens of instances were not even residents (or inhabitants) of Vermont including the citizens of CT, NY, NJ, MA and even FL who because the Petitions were not labeled as for the Vermont Primary did not required the signatories to certify that they were in fact registered Vermont voters.

    Incredibly the Director of Elections testified that his office did not believe they were required to confirm that the petition signatories were on the voters rolls in Vermont, rather that they were only required to determine that the signatures were legible and nothing more. Welcome to
    Vermont’s Wild West of Elections where few care about the integrity of the election process, in fact most probably do not even understand the
    concept.

    In the end the Judge did not grant the TRO citing that the public interest and concerns over voter disenfranchisement outweighed the injury to the Plaintiff. Plaintiff will receive the Return of Service and
    the executed Summonses on Tuesday for the new Defendants and will file them with the Court that day, starting the 20 day clock for the new Defendants to answer or otherwise file a response with the Court.”


    Mr. Paige hired Baker Investigations and Process Servers to serve the Summons and Amended Complaint on the out-of-state Defendants Cruz and Rubio during their visit to Charleston SC in advance of their appearances on the Fox Business News Republican Debate. Owner Elizabeth Baker personally served both Cruz and Rubio on Wednesday January 13, as they arrived in Charleston.

    Photos courtesy of Baker Investigations and Process Servers.





    According to Mr. Paige, Elizabeth Baker described the Rubio campaign folks as very accommodating and congenial while the Cruz folks were willing to
    cooperate although they seemed less cordial and Boston lawyers contacted
    the Plaintiff attempting to substitute “electronic service” for personal
    service required by the Court.


    Original complaint:

    Ted Cruz Rubio and Jindal eligibility challenged in Vermont, H. Brooke Paige complaint filed December 9, 2015, Natural born citizen status requires US birth and 2 citizen parents, Attorney Mario Apuzzo explains founding fathers intent

    http://citizenwells.com/2016/01/18/v...nvestigations/

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    Vermont Voter Files Lawsuit to Keep Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio Off Vermont Presidential Primary Ballots


    Posted on January 4, 2016 by Richard Winger

    Early in December 2015, Vermont voter H. Brooke Paige filed a lawsuit in state court against the Vermont Secretary of State, arguing that the Secretary of State has a duty to investigate the qualifications of presidential candidates before placing them on the March presidential primary ballots. Paige does not believe that Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio are eligible because of their parents’ citizenship status. See this story.

    The case is Paige v Condos, in Superior Court, Washington County, 780-12-15.

    http://ballot-access.org/2016/01/04/...imary-ballots/
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    FWIW, that robocall from Cruz regarding Carson withdrawing was a low down trick. He probably won't get nailed for it----unless it turned into a wire fraud investigation, which could be very serious b/c it involved an election. He would have to tell a tall tale to get out of that one.
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    The only way to get the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on these birther issues is to first get any judge to rule on it in any way. Then the side that loses can take it to a higher state court. That loser can then take it to a federal court and hopefully end up in the U.S. Supreme Court. Then IF the Supreme Court agrees to hear it we get a final ruling. I don't really care what ruling they give, I just want a final ruling.

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