Thread: Warning of US Dictatorship From Ron Paul

An AMAZING interview with Ron Paul on the Alex Jones show today. Here is part of the transcript:


Presidential Candidate: U.S. In Danger of Dictatorship
Congressman Ron Paul warns elite believe they own us and are "always prepared" to take our liberties

Steve Watson & Alex Jones
Infowars.net
Wednesday, April 11, 2007 *

Presidential candidate Ron Paul has warned that the US is now at a crisis point because the people have been so neglectful of protecting their liberties and big government has been so effective in eroding them. He warned that the elite are prepared to concoct events to scare the American people and asserted that the 2008 Presidential election is a contest between the people who care about their freedoms and those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship.

Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air this week for a full hour to discuss his ongoing Presidential campaign and give his views on what he believes the fundamental issues are in America today.

The Congressman gave a candid interview in which he discussed many topics in depth including the economy, foreign policy, the North American Union, the possibility of a draft and the situations in Iraq and Iran.

Known for what many have described as his impeccable voting record, Ron Paul is a champion of individual liberty and a strong campaigner for restoration of a true Constitutionalist form of US government, a trait that has made him a rare and popular candidate amongst people from all across the political spectrum.

When asked what he believes the overriding issue in America today is the Congressman pointed towards the erosion of personal freedoms:

"Probably it's the threat to individual liberty. because our government is growing endlessly by leaps and bounds and nobody seems to want to put a hold on it. every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty."

The Congressman explained that freedom is the underlying issue because the consequences of such erosion of individual liberty have a knock on effect in many different areas. Economically, for example, the country is becoming dependent, less productive and less self sustaining.

"Economically the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to gold was broken, they still trusted the dollar as if it were gold, and therefore we can print the money and we can spend the money and foreign countries take our money, then loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap." Paul stated.

"They get a temporarily good deal but what it does is encourage us not to be productive, it encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer, we can let others do it cheaper, cheap labour, and then we buy it with cheap money. That is going to come to an end. That means later on there are going to be a lot of changes here. Domestically the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the price of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken, so we have some very serious problems ahead."

Turning to foreign policy the Congressman asserted that his first action if he were to be elected as President would be to start to bring American troops home from all over the world.

"As a Commander in chief you could certainly handle the troops around the world. I would start talking to all our allies and tell them what the plans were and start coming home. We are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy. It's a lot bigger than most people realise if you add up the Dod, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend and taking care of our veterans."

The Congressman made it clear that aggression abroad and America as a world police force has had a disastrous impact upon the very fabric of the country.

"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

Paul then turned to the issue of the North American Union and made it clear that he believes the plans that have been secretly laid in Washington to merge the US, Mexican and Canadian economies are yet again the fallout from the souring of liberty in America.

We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

Turning to discussion of his Presidential campaign, Ron Paul championed the alternative media and the internet as vital tools in allowing him to get his message across to a multitude of people that never could have been reached before without huge injections of money:

"The internet already has been very helpful and I think it's going to be more helpful as time goes on, and that's something that is becoming more so everyday, ten fifteen years ago it wasn't so significant. The other thing is radio talks shows like what you have are very important. Almost every place I go somebody will come up to me and I'll say 'how did you get involved' and it's through your show. So there are a lot of people who have joined our campaign and have already started to show up at our events because of your encouragement."

Paul emphasized that although the bigger candidates can raise millions of dollars through special interests, a lot of that money is wasted on private jets, huge salaries, advisors, advertising and the like. So there isn't as big a gulf between he and the other candidates as people may think.

The Republican Congressman, who has been dubbed "founding father material", by his supporters has surprised some with his initial success, having gained widespread support from Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives alike.

He stressed that you have to be in the game to have any chance of winning it, and that this not only applies to his own campaign but more importantly applies also to everyone who wishes to remain free in America.

"Time is running out and we may lose our liberties to the point where we won't have these responses." Paul stated.

"You know there's nothing that guarantees that they will allow you to air your radio show forever. They have already trampled on our rights, they talking about putting people in prison today without Habeas Corpus... If we don't preserve our fundamental freedoms we can't fight back. I'm convinced of one thing, we could all be very very poor tomorrow and have to start from scratch but if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our backs, this country would rebound so quickly."

Paul then outlined what he feels that the 2008 Presidential election is all about, and also warned that the elite are prepared to attempt to take the liberty of the people and change the course of history:

"I think they are always prepared and everyday they have more powers than before because under these emergency powers acts, the President now has more authority than ever. And the contest that is really going on in this Presidential election is are there enough of us that care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship. Just think of the attitude, what it was like right after 9/11 when they passed the Patriot Act, I said 'you know it's not even available, you can't even read it and we're getting ready to vote' they said 'it doesn't matter, the people want us to do something, this looks like we're doing something, it sounds good, there's no way I'm even gonna question this', so they voted for it. They got their signals from the people. it is true that there are a lot of people who wanted something done, the big question is are there more of them or more of us?" Paul commented.

in further reference to 9/11 the Congressman stated:

"I think freedom's been sliding for a long time and it got a lot worse after 9/11 and I'm always afraid of some concocted event that will scare the American people.... The people in this country need a little bit more reason to go along with the President, but unfortunately our leaders in this country too often have been able to provide the incident that unifies the country behind more militarism."

We implore our readers to listen to the entire interview here: ( http://www.gcnlive.com/genesis/ ) and support Ron Paul's campaign. His voting record speaks for itself and he represents a genuine chance to attempt to put things right in America today.

To support Ron Paul you can visit his website at www.RonPaul2008.com, where you can donate online or find out how to donate via other methods.

Ron Paul is awesome! I missed the interview but will listen to the podcast. Thanks Chloe!

It's looking more and more like I'll be voting for this patriot!

With the suspension of Habeas Corpus that King George enacted right after 9/11, and three Executive Orders 10999, 11000, and one other that escapes my memory at the moment, pretty much places Bush in a Dictatorial position already. The suspesion of Habeas Corpus was necessary to enact the Patriot Act. Which allows the agency to perform it's duties with any measures needed to reach a conclusion.

One of the Executive Orders mentioned above, I think has to do with the authorities being able to arrest, and detain you indefinitely with no reason given, no legal council, and no notification to your loved ones required on their part, or allowing you to inform them.

Not to mention the alleged detention centers that the government has made out of all of those closed military bases throughout the US. That's were they'd detain us. They're really trying to overthrow this country! What gets me is no one in congress sees this threat or mabey they do and are part of it.

Why didn't he speak about illegal immigration? Does anyone know his stance on the subject?What would he do with the 12 to 20 million here? How does he feel about guest workers?

Originally Posted by Rockfish

Not to mention the alleged detention centers that the government has made out of all of those closed military bases throughout the US. That's were they'd detain us. They're really trying to overthrow this country! What gets me is no one in congress sees this threat or mabey they do and are part of it.

The cou de tat is almost complete. All the Emperor has to is find his Vader to quell all insurrections to his will. Tom, and Ron have both stated that if things don't turn around in the right direction by this election, that the United States of America, that grand Republic, the great experiment in self governence will pretty much so be gone. And those words that govenment of the people, by the people, and for the people will vanish from this earth.

The following is Ron Paul's platform on several issues taken from - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Issues_fx.html

If you scroll down further you will read aboul his platform on illegal immigration. (Remember, if you like what you read - DON'T KEEP IT TO YOURSELF - MAKE A COPY AND FORWARD IT TO OTHER PEOPLE!!)

Debt and Taxes

Working Americans like lower taxes. So do I. *Lower taxes benefit all of us, creating jobs and allowing us to make more decisions for ourselves about our lives.

Whether a tax cut reduces a single mother’s payroll taxes by $40 a month or allows a business owner to save thousands in capital gains taxes and hire more employees, that tax cut is a good thing.* Lower taxes allow more spending, saving, and investing which helps the economy – that means all of us.

Real conservatives have always supported low taxes and low spending.
But today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin.* We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation.* Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren.* If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future – and yours.

In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply – making each dollar in your pocket worth less.* The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to “we the people.”

Worse, our economy and our very independence as a nation is increasingly in the hands of foreign governments such as China and Saudi Arabia, because their central banks also finance our runaway spending.

We cannot continue to allow private banks, wasteful agencies, lobbyists, corporations on welfare, and governments collecting foreign aid to dictate the size of our ballooning budget.* We need a new method to prioritize our spending.* It’s called the Constitution of the United States.


American Independence and Sovereignty

So called free trade deals and world governmental organizations like the International Criminal Court (ICC), NAFTA, GATT, WTO, and CAFTA are a threat to our independence as a nation. *They transfer power from our government to unelected foreign elites.

The ICC wants to try our soldiers as war criminals.* Both the WTO and CAFTA could force Americans to get a doctor’s prescription to take herbs and vitamins. *Alternative treatments could be banned.

The WTO has forced Congress to change our laws, yet we still face trade wars. *Today, France is threatening to have U.S. goods taxed throughout Europe. *If anything, the WTO makes trade relations worse by giving foreign competitors a new way to attack U.S. jobs.

NAFTA’s superhighway is just one part of a plan to erase the borders between the U.S. and Mexico, called the North American Union. *This spawn of powerful special interests, would create a single nation out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new unelected bureaucracy and money system. *Forget about controlling immigration under this scheme.

And a free America, with limited, constitutional government, would be gone forever.

Let’s not forget the UN.* It wants to impose a direct tax on us. *I successfully fought this move in Congress last year, but if we are going to stop ongoing attempts of this world government body to tax us, we will need leadership from the White House.

We must withdraw from any organizations and trade deals that infringe upon the freedom and independence of the United States of America.


War and Foreign Policy

The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information.* The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. *We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them.* This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. *We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again.

Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. *And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.

We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. *No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.

Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations.

Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised.* Then, we become despised. *Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihads themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. *We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.

At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves.* The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. *Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. *Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.


Border Security and Immigration Reform

The talk must stop. *We must secure our borders now. *A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. *This is my six point plan:

1. Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

2. Enforce visa rules.* Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law.* This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

3. No amnesty. *Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

4. No welfare for illegal aliens.* Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules.* But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

5. End birthright citizenship.* As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.*

6. Pass true immigration reform.* The current system is incoherent and unfair.* But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. *This is insanity.* Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Privacy and Personal Liberty

The biggest threat to your privacy is the government. *We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding citizens’ personal matters. *

We must stop the move toward a national ID card system. *All states are preparing to issue new driver’s licenses embedded with “standard identifier” data – a national ID. *A national ID with new tracking technologies means we’re heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy.* I voted against the Real ID Act in March of 2005.

To date, the privacy focus has been on identity theft. *It was Congress that created this danger by mandating use of the standard identifier (currently your SSN) in the private sector.* For example, banks use SSNs as customer account identifiers because the government requires it.

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We must also protect medical privacy.* Right now, you’re vulnerable.* Under so-called "medical privacy protection" rules, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information.

Financial privacy? *Right now depositing $10,000 in your local bank will generate a “suspicious activity report” to the federal government.

And then there’s the so-called Patriot Act. **As originally proposed,

* Expanded the federal government's ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight;

* Allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to any local judicial oversight;

* Made it far easier for the government to monitor private internet usage;

* Authorized “sneak and peek” warrants enabling federal authorities to search a person’s home, office, or personal property without that person’s knowledge;

* Required libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read by their patrons.


I have fought this fight for many years. I sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act and have won some victories, but today the threat to your liberty and privacy is very real. *We need leadership at the top that will prevent Washington from centralizing power and private data about our lives.

Property Rights and Eminent Domain

We must stop special interests from violating property rights and literally driving families from their homes, farms and ranches.

Our country’s founders would roll over in their graves if they saw the takings clause in the Fifth Amendment used to*justify booting people out of their homes for the profit of private developers and tax-hungry local governments. The Supreme Court’s Kelo decision said government power could be used to condemn private homes and churches to benefit a huge pharmaceutical corporation and a large property developer.

Today, we face a new threat of widespread eminent domain actions as a result of powerful interests who want to build a NAFTA superhighway through the United States from Mexico to Canada.

We also face another danger in regulatory takings:* Through excess regulation, governments deprive property owners of significant value and use of their properties – all without paying “just compensation.”

Property rights are the foundation of all rights in a free society.* Without the right to own a printing press, for example, freedom of the press becomes meaningless. *The next president must get federal agencies out of these schemes to deny property owners their constitutional rights to life, liberty, and property.