Thread: Where’s the Fence on Our Southern Border?

By Peter Kirsanow
January 14, 2015 3:08 PM

The Secure Fence Act of 2006 mandated the construction of 670 miles of double-layered fencing along the 1,930-mile border with Mexico. The Department of Homeland Security claims that 352 miles of pedestrian fencing has been erected. But Representative Duncan Hunter (R. Calif.) notes that only 40 miles of that is double-layered, as required.

Critics of the fence assert that it’s a foolish waste of time and resources; it won’t work.

Apparently, Saudi Arabia disagrees.The U.K. Telegraph reports that Saudi Arabia is building a 600-mile ”Great Wall” along its border with Iraq. The barrier will consist of not two, but five layers of fencing, along with ditches, berms, radar, night-vision cameras, and watch towers. In addition, up to 30,000 troops will be deployed along the barrier.

The border barrier is being built to protect Saudi Arabia against the Islamic State–inspired chaos in neighboring countries. Meanwhile, the Obama administration issues the practical equivalent of an open invitation to anyone from neighboring countries (and beyond) who wishes to cross our southern border.

Who’s being foolish?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...peter-kirsanow

San Diego Border Fence, Razor Wire Top


In this Nov. 17, 2008 file photo, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle stands guard along the border fence with its concertino wire topping it, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File) — AP

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...order-fencing/

Excerpt:

You need to go back to the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush. It authorized the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along the border with Mexico. The act specified "at least two layers of reinforced fencing."

But the law was quietly altered in a significant way the following year.

Responding to urging from the Department of Homeland Security -- which argued that different border terrains required different types of fencing, that a one-size-fits-all approach across the entire border didn't make sense -- Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, proposed an amendment to give DHS the discretion to decide what type of fence was appropriate in different areas. The law was amended to read, "nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location."

In other words, Border Patrol would have the leeway to decide which type of fencing was appropriate in various regions.

The amendment was included in a federal budget bill in late 2007 despite being condemned by legislators such as Reps. Peter King, R-N.Y., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., who argued the amendment effectively killed the border fence promised in the 2006 bill.

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Originally Posted by Jean

Who’s being foolish

We are.

There's no need to spend multi-millions on fences, to stop illegals from sneaking into the United States. Most illegals are sneaking in, to get jobs or better jobs. We can shut off the jobs magnet by legislating Universal E-Verify. A five year phase in of E-Verify was part of last year's Senate immigration bill. IMO patriots would be wise to mount a campaign to make sure that Universal E-Verify does not disappear.

NumbersUSA had a free fax available, for people who want to tell their elected reps to implement E-Verify. I 've already sent mine, but I think that people can just log on to the site and send that fax for free.
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Originally Posted by vistalad

We are.

There's no need to spend multi-millions on fences, to stop illegals from sneaking into the United States. Most illegals are sneaking in, to get jobs or better jobs. We can shut off the jobs magnet by legislating Universal E-Verify. A five year phase in of E-Verify was part of last year's Senate immigration bill. IMO patriots would be wise to mount a campaign to make sure that Universal E-Verify does not disappear.

NumbersUSA had a free fax available, for people who want to tell their elected reps to implement E-Verify. I 've already sent mine, but I think that people can just log on to the site and send that fax for free.
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Americans first in this magnificent country

American jobs for American workers

Fair trade, not free trade

I too support Universal E-Verify. However, unfortunate as it is, such a plan has no hope while Obama is sitting in the White House unless we're willing to accept some very unacceptable trade-offs.

Do you remember Congressman Heath Shuler's SAVE Act back in 2007-2008? That bill would have mandated the Universal E-Verify you speak of without giving anything to illegal aliens. It was actually an enforcement bill written by a Democrat. I was very disappointed that the bill never really got any momentum. It was a good bill and should have received overwhelming support from the U.S. Congress. The Clear Act also supported more border fencing and additional assets to ehance border security.

When all is said and done, I strongly feel that there is no one single answer to our immigration problem where enforcement is concerned. I support Universal E-Verify and enhanced border security to include more double-layered fencing.

Mexicans often paint the south side of the border fence to decorate it.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=bord...g&ved=0CDMQ7Ak


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Originally Posted by MW

I too support Universal E-Verify. However, unfortunate as it is, such a plan has no hope while Obama is sitting in the White House unless we're willing to accept some very unacceptable trade-offs.

We have to keep trying. Events can create new situations, new alliances, new understandings.
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American jobs for American workers

Fair trade, not free trade

Originally Posted by vistalad

We have to keep trying. Events can create new situations, new alliances, new understandings.
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Fair trade, not free trade

Well stated vistalad.

Originally Posted by vistalad

We have to keep trying. Events can create new situations, new alliances, new understandings.
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I agree. The point of my comment was, I support both, E-Verify and ehanced border security to include more double-layered fencing.

A fence runs along the U.S.-Mexico border between the Otay Mesa and San Ysidro ports of entry in and near San Diego, across from Tijuana. A House committee is set to begin marking up a new border bill this week that, among other things, would authorize 27 new miles of border fence.FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/multiameri...fornia-health/