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    Who is lying now Marco

    February 22, 2016

    Over the last few weeks accusations have been flying between Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. They accuse each other of changing positions on immigration and the challenges are becoming increasingly nasty. Each accuses the other of being week on Immigration and changing their position in order to attract new votes.

    Cruz accuses Rubio of being for citizenship for illegal aliens and secretly working with the White House and Senate Democrats to develop an immigration plan or the nation. Rubio charges Cruz was for the program and even tried to improve it by suggesting amendments to make it better. In addition, Rubio claims Cruz changed his pro- expanded Visa program stance.

    What are the facts? Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican representing Alabama, did a great deal of explaining of the facts involving Cruz and Rubio and the gang of Eight Immigration Bill. Sessions is a respected Conservative who has not endorsed anyone in the Republican Presidential Primary. He explains the "Gang of Eight" worked secretly for months with the White House to develop this immigration plan.

    The gang of Eight was made up of 4 Democratic Senators, Bennett(CO), Durbin(IL), Menendez(NJ) and Schumer(NY). In addition, Senators Flake(AZ), Graham(SC), McCain(AZ) and Rubio( FL) made up the Republican half. Working with the White House they developed an immigration plan that included an eventual pathway for citizenship for illegal aliens.

    Rubio was chosen to lead the fight for approval in the Senate for the Republicans while Schumer would do the same for the Democratic Senators. Cruz did propose an amendment to change the bill. Senator Sessions pointed out the purpose behind all amendments were to highlight weaknesses in the bill so others would vote against it. So while it is true Cruz did make amendments claiming to make the bill better, it is supported by Senator Sessions that the real purpose was to kill the bill. In addition, no amendments were allowed to the bill before it was passed by the Senate. (Point Cruz)

    Rubio claims the bill was to pass the Senate and go to the House where he hoped Conservatives would make the bill better than it was written. If Rubio wanted the bill made better, why would he fight to keep the bill amendment free in the Senate? Cruz then went and spent time in the House of Representatives lobbying to kill the bill. Rubio did not. (Point Cruz). Sessions pointed out the Bill was expected to pass the House yet Rubio did nothing to "make the Bill Better" by lobbying House members.(Point Cruz). What changed that killed the bill was the primary loss of House Majority leader Eric Cantor. This frightened many house members that would have supported the bill.

    Another issue is the Cruz stand on the H1B Visa Program . H1B Visas allows Businesses to get special permission to import skilled workers to fill jobs in their company. Initially Cruz, as a new Senator, supported the program as it was pro business and made sense where there was a shortage of qualified applicants. However, Cruz learned after studying the issue further, companies were abusing the Visa Program and bringing in cheaper labor to replace existing American Workers. At that point he changed his position on supporting the program. (Point Draw) Position changed based on additional information not an election. The Cruz explanation was confirmed by Senator Sessions.

    In addition, during the past debate, Rubio accused Cruz of listening to a Rubio Spanish Station Ad while he does not even speak the language. Cruz countered immediately with a series of statements in Spanish. (Point Cruz)

    In addition, Rubio has joined Trump in attacking Cruz as having no friends in Congress. The facts are different than being stated. There are 20 House Representatives that have regularly attended and helped in Cruz rallies. They include: Mark Meadows (NC) Steven King( Iowa), Jeff Duncan(SC) , Tim Huelskamp (Kansas), and Ken Buck(Colorado). In fact he gets warm greetings from both Senator Mike Lee and Senator Sessions when he attends the Senate floor. Both have not endorsed anyone nor plan to at this time. (Point Cruz). In addition, Cruz' stance against establishment republican actions has earned him their dislike. However, fighting them is what he was sent there to do.

    Rubio consistently accused Cruz of making up stories and lying about both his own record and Rubio's record. Based on the facts above, it appears Senator Cruz continues his promise he wail do what he says and will not lie to the American Public.

    Senator Rubio, when it comes to lying and misrepresenting their record, It appears it is YOU!!!
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    Marco Rubio - pathological liar
    February 22, 2016 | 08:43 AM

    Marco Rubio is one of the most dishonest scoundrels in politics. Lying is standard operative procedure for him. His smears of Ted Cruz for circulating the same CNN story on Carson in Iowa that Rubio's own campaign itself circulated and similar lies in the campaign are just the latest in a lifetime of dishonesty.

    The immigration issue is probably the best example and it long predates the presidential campaign. As a state legislator, Marco Rubio was a major amigo of the illegals. He co-sponsored a Florida ''DREAM'' Act for illegals, and as House Speaker used his position to repeatedly block immigration enforcement bills.

    Despite his own legislative record, Rubio decided as a US Senate candidate to make opposition to amnesty for illegal aliens, specifically including ''Dreamers'' one of the biggest planks of his campaign. That was because his primary opponent had endorsed amnesty and Rubio saw opposing amnesty as a useful issue for him to push to get himself elected. Nevermind that it was not his real position.

    Rubio called the leaders of FLIMEN, the major anti-amnesty citizens group in Florida, to a meeting and swore to them that he viewed amnesty differently on a national level than he had on a state level, and they could depend on him to fight hard against amnesty on the national level. Unfortunately, they bought his deception and did not openly challenge Rubio's sincerity based on his existing record. They were in the best position to call bullshit on Rubio but instead beleived him.

    Rubio, in large part due to his deception of the voters on this issue won the Senate seat. He almost immediately reverted to his old position on amnesty and became one of the leading members of the pro-amnesty Gang of 8.

    Here are the gory details of Rubio's deception as told by FLIMEN, the Florida anti-amnesty group:

    www.marcorubioamnestyman.com

    The best way to tell if Rubio is lying is to look to see if his lips are moving.

    I have always voted Republican for president, but Marco Rubio is one Republican I would NEVER vote for.

    I don't trust Trump, but I would keep my fingers crossed and take a chance with him if he were the nominee. Not Rubio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Who is lying now Marco

    February 22, 2016

    Over the last few weeks accusations have been flying between Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. They accuse each other of changing positions on immigration and the challenges are becoming increasingly nasty. Each accuses the other of being week on Immigration and changing their position in order to attract new votes.

    Cruz accuses Rubio of being for citizenship for illegal aliens and secretly working with the White House and Senate Democrats to develop an immigration plan or the nation. Rubio charges Cruz was for the program and even tried to improve it by suggesting amendments to make it better. In addition, Rubio claims Cruz changed his pro- expanded Visa program stance.

    What are the facts? Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican representing Alabama, did a great deal of explaining of the facts involving Cruz and Rubio and the gang of Eight Immigration Bill. Sessions is a respected Conservative who has not endorsed anyone in the Republican Presidential Primary. He explains the "Gang of Eight" worked secretly for months with the White House to develop this immigration plan.

    The gang of Eight was made up of 4 Democratic Senators, Bennett(CO), Durbin(IL), Menendez(NJ) and Schumer(NY). In addition, Senators Flake(AZ), Graham(SC), McCain(AZ) and Rubio( FL) made up the Republican half. Working with the White House they developed an immigration plan that included an eventual pathway for citizenship for illegal aliens.

    Rubio was chosen to lead the fight for approval in the Senate for the Republicans while Schumer would do the same for the Democratic Senators. Cruz did propose an amendment to change the bill. Senator Sessions pointed out the purpose behind all amendments were to highlight weaknesses in the bill so others would vote against it. So while it is true Cruz did make amendments claiming to make the bill better, it is supported by Senator Sessions that the real purpose was to kill the bill. In addition, no amendments were allowed to the bill before it was passed by the Senate. (Point Cruz)

    Rubio claims the bill was to pass the Senate and go to the House where he hoped Conservatives would make the bill better than it was written. If Rubio wanted the bill made better, why would he fight to keep the bill amendment free in the Senate? Cruz then went and spent time in the House of Representatives lobbying to kill the bill. Rubio did not. (Point Cruz). Sessions pointed out the Bill was expected to pass the House yet Rubio did nothing to "make the Bill Better" by lobbying House members.(Point Cruz). What changed that killed the bill was the primary loss of House Majority leader Eric Cantor. This frightened many house members that would have supported the bill.

    Another issue is the Cruz stand on the H1B Visa Program . H1B Visas allows Businesses to get special permission to import skilled workers to fill jobs in their company. Initially Cruz, as a new Senator, supported the program as it was pro business and made sense where there was a shortage of qualified applicants. However, Cruz learned after studying the issue further, companies were abusing the Visa Program and bringing in cheaper labor to replace existing American Workers. At that point he changed his position on supporting the program. (Point Draw) Position changed based on additional information not an election. The Cruz explanation was confirmed by Senator Sessions.

    In addition, during the past debate, Rubio accused Cruz of listening to a Rubio Spanish Station Ad while he does not even speak the language. Cruz countered immediately with a series of statements in Spanish. (Point Cruz)

    In addition, Rubio has joined Trump in attacking Cruz as having no friends in Congress. The facts are different than being stated. There are 20 House Representatives that have regularly attended and helped in Cruz rallies. They include: Mark Meadows (NC) Steven King( Iowa), Jeff Duncan(SC) , Tim Huelskamp (Kansas), and Ken Buck(Colorado). In fact he gets warm greetings from both Senator Mike Lee and Senator Sessions when he attends the Senate floor. Both have not endorsed anyone nor plan to at this time. (Point Cruz). In addition, Cruz' stance against establishment republican actions has earned him their dislike. However, fighting them is what he was sent there to do.

    Rubio consistently accused Cruz of making up stories and lying about both his own record and Rubio's record. Based on the facts above, it appears Senator Cruz continues his promise he wail do what he says and will not lie to the American Public.

    Senator Rubio, when it comes to lying and misrepresenting their record, It appears it is YOU!!!
    http://www.beaufortobserver.net/Arti...now-Marco.html
    Thank you, Newmexican.

    This pretty much validates what I've been saying all along and should erase the concerns of some of the Cruz doubters. Cruz has undeservedly been getting a lot of flack from some over the issues mentioned in the article. Hopefully the facts provided in this article will remove some of those negative talking points Cruz opponents have been using. Sen. Sessions word should be gold around here because he has never, not once, betrayed our trust.

    This is very telling:

    In addition, Rubio has joined Trump in attacking Cruz as having no friends in Congress. The facts are different than being stated. There are 20 House Representatives that have regularly attended and helped in Cruz rallies. They include: Mark Meadows (NC) Steven King( Iowa), Jeff Duncan(SC) , Tim Huelskamp (Kansas), and Ken Buck(Colorado). In fact he gets warm greetings from both Senator Mike Lee and Senator Sessions when he attends the Senate floor. Both have not endorsed anyone nor plan to at this time. (Point Cruz). In addition, Cruz' stance against establishment republican actions has earned him their dislike. However, fighting them is what he was sent there to do.
    The guys listed above are like the who's who list of illegal alien amnesty opponents! All of their score cards at NumbersUSA are exceptionally strong.

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