Thread: Why are African Americans brainwashed about illegal immigration?

I hope Black Americans wake up to the fact that when the Democrats throw the "race card", it's not about black Americans, it's about their vote. The lives that Democrats want to foster is not the lives of Black Americans, but the lives of illegal aliens. The "race card" is a drug cartel tactic, not part of our political process in 2017.

Republicans freed the slaves, established civil rights for them, many of these were over-turned by Democrats with court challenges, black codes, and Jim Crow laws. Republicans kept fighting for black Americans and made more progress with the 1957 US Civil Rights Act, largely gutted by Democrats, but one that pushed some important aspects forward. The US Civil Rights Act of 1964 actually written by Republicans was supported by 80% of Republicans in Congress while Democrats only supported it with about 55% support, and only at that number because of Lyndon Johnson.

Republicans need to tell the truth to the American People about what Republicans have done. For far too long, Republicans have been too quiet about their relentless efforts on behalf of black Americans. The reason why they don't tout it during campaigns is because as a philosophy they don't want black Americans to feel like they owe Republicans anything, they want them to be free of all that suffering and struggle and vote for who today they think is best for them.

I understand the position of not exploiting black votes, and appreciate the objective, but when Democrats win elections on lies, falsehoods, deceptions and so forth, I think a different approach is necessary because the very people our party was formed to help continue to suffer in large numbers as a result of those lies and deceptions, because too many of them don't know the truth.

Truth is never wrong. Truth is what really sets US all free. It's time for Republicans to stand up and speak out about who has actually done what for black Americans, because black Americans deserve to know the truth about their history due to the impact it has on how they view and deal with the issues of today, especially political ones that affect their jobs, livelihoods, safety and economic security.

This election isn't about "voting rights". Every US citizen can vote in any US election anywhere they are registered, any time there is an election. That's a fact. This election was about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS and fixing our country for black Americans, white Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, all Americans.

It isn't clear to me that the African-American leadership referenced is in line with the beliefs of the average African-American. From my experience there are many black folks who oppose illegal aliens. What's holding them back is that they don't trust the Republicans. What is needed to rally them is a Democrat opposed to illegal aliens.

You're right, artclam, they don't trust Republicans because Republicans have never stood up against the lies and deceptions of the DemoQuack Voting Machine winning elections on phony race cards and hand-outs.

Trump's got this, as hard as it's going to be to watch both Trump and our good Republicans fight their way through it. Trump said in his O'Reilly interview when asked how he felt personally about these types of attacks and how he was going to deal with it, Trump said he doesn't like the attacks, but the way he's going to solve it is to succeed with his agenda. He believes that when he delivers and people see that his way was the right way to fix our country, that this will put an end to most of it.

He's such a good spirit with such a good soul. He really is a warrior for the American People. I wish more people would take the time to watch his interviews in full and see and hear more from him so they could really see and hear for themselves who he is and what he's trying to do, unfiltered by the media. Any Americans who fails to do that will be missing out on one of the greatest periods in US history by being on the wrong side of it.

Despite the fact that racism no longer has any vitality as an ideology among thinking citizens, many African Americans are still sensitive about these kinds of attitudes. Illegal immigrants of all races probe this sensitivity to enfranchise African Americans politically against resistance to illegal immigration. There is also the troubled history of making African Americans citizens in the US, something illegal immigrants care nothing about. Also, African American identity is further confused by racially African immigrants who do not share the experience of slavery in the United States, or even North America before the United States.

And also African Americans are most in touch with the unsupported view that getting rid of illegal immigrants is going to some make more jobs available for citizens. This is not true because illegal immigrants benefit from employment by other legal immigrants who have carved out a piece of the US economy for their own purposes. They have become economic colonials and not just social colonials. If we manage to get rid of their illegal immigrant labor, they are not going to hire citizens and they are going to take their piece of the US economy and run with it or sell it cheap where it is worth anything at all.

Illegal immigrants aren't doing anything the US needs or wants and what they do isn't worth a damn anyway. It is work of an inferior quality. African Americans can see this and don't see much of a future in the jobs being done by illegals.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

Illegal immigrants aren't doing anything the US needs or wants and what they do isn't worth a damn anyway. It is work of an inferior quality. African Americans can see this and don't see much of a future in the jobs being done by illegals.

Um, no. Illegals are taking what was once good paying construction and manufacturing jobs. The trade that I'm in used to be a good trade that paid good money and was enough to support a family on. With all these illegals that came here, the trade I'm in is no longer a good paying career because illegals do it for very low wages, which brought the wages down for everyone else in the trade because of the competition from these uninvited house guests. The argument that illegals only take jobs that no else wants is a bunch of bull.

And on top of it, the quality fell a lot, because they do crappy work. But if that saves employers money by paying much lower wages, I guess that's what's important.

Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man

Um, no. Illegals are taking what was once good paying construction and manufacturing jobs. The trade that I'm in used to be a good trade that paid good money and was enough to support a family on. With all these illegals that came here, the trade I'm in is no longer a good paying career because illegals do it for very low wages, which brought the wages down for everyone else in the trade because of the competition from these uninvited house guests. The argument that illegals only take jobs that no else wants is a bunch of bull.

And on top of it, the quality fell a lot, because they do crappy work. But if that saves employers money by paying much lower wages, I guess that's what's important.

Construction and manufacturing are only a very small part of the illegal immigrant economy. And you missed my point that the work that the illegals do is inferior. The acceptance of this inferior work is the pathway made for illegal immigrants by legal immigrants who do the hiring for construction and manufacturing. Illegal immigrants rarely speak English and the people who hire them and manage them must speak their language of origin. The decline in quality in construction, especially real estate is part of the social grip that illegals have on the economy. African Americans can see this.

The major part of the illegal immigrant economy is public assistance and small businesses. Restaurants, landscaping and other patron based businesses make up the rest. Agriculture too is increasingly owned by legal immigrants. The argument that illegal immigrants only take jobs that no one else wants is a fake argument. They only take jobs that no one else is going to get whether they are here or not.

There is no future in the economy for African Americans as it exists now. Getting rid of the illegals is only half the battle. The jobs will evaporate once the illegals go because the economy no longer supports the same standards that we once saw that supported our economy. The legal immigrants running management and the hiring are not going to hire African Americans. If they were going to do that, they would have done it already.

The legal immigrants running management and the hiring are not going to hire African Americans. If they were going to do that, they would have done it already.

That is exactly right. They will seek out legal hispanics and demand more visas.

We need a 10 to 20 Year Moratorium on All Immigration.

Black Americans need to realize that most Hispanics and Latinos do not work for you at election time, you are working for them in these elections, helping to elect members of Congress and Mayors and Governors and Presidents who want amnesty for illegal aliens and more open borders and more legal immigration, which hurts all Americans, but especially Black and Hispanic Citizens of the United States.

None of us understand why black Americans do that. You are citizens, you're entitled to full protection under the law same as every other citizen. You sell yourselves down river when you join the "brown" or the "la raza" mission. It's mostly your jobs they took, it's your wages they deflated, if your house you lost that they took.

Time to Wake Up Black Americans and see this travesty for what it really is, the biggest darkest scam ever.

Originally Posted by pkskyali

Construction and manufacturing are only a very small part of the illegal immigrant economy. And you missed my point that the work that the illegals do is inferior. The acceptance of this inferior work is the pathway made for illegal immigrants by legal immigrants who do the hiring for construction and manufacturing. Illegal immigrants rarely speak English and the people who hire them and manage them must speak their language of origin. The decline in quality in construction, especially real estate is part of the social grip that illegals have on the economy. African Americans can see this.

The major part of the illegal immigrant economy is public assistance and small businesses. Restaurants, landscaping and other patron based businesses make up the rest. Agriculture too is increasingly owned by legal immigrants. The argument that illegal immigrants only take jobs that no one else wants is a fake argument. They only take jobs that no one else is going to get whether they are here or not.

There is no future in the economy for African Americans as it exists now. Getting rid of the illegals is only half the battle. The jobs will evaporate once the illegals go because the economy no longer supports the same standards that we once saw that supported our economy. The legal immigrants running management and the hiring are not going to hire African Americans. If they were going to do that, they would have done it already.

I see what you're saying. And even if these employers did not want to hire black people, they can always hire high school and college kids. There is a big jobless rate among our youth. When I was 16 years old, my first job, part-time after school, was bussing tables at a restaurant. Other of my classmates were bag boys at grocery stores, laboring in landscaping, doing piece work in manufacturing. These jobs are good for young kids entering the workforce for the first time. It not only puts money into their pocket, but it also builds a good work ethic among our young people. I would've even worked in fields picking beans if I had to, to make some money when I was 16 years old. So the argument that pro-illegal immigration proponents have that they only do jobs that Americans don't want is very weak.

Also, if these places won't hire black people, so be it. There would still be an enormous amount of decent and good jobs available to black people, as well as white people, in construction and manufacturing if we deported all the illegals in this country.

Originally Posted by Judy

I hope Black Americans wake up to the fact that when the Democrats throw the "race card", it's not about black Americans, it's about their vote. The lives that Democrats want to foster is not the lives of Black Americans, but the lives of illegal aliens. The "race card" is a drug cartel tactic, not part of our political process in 2017.

Republicans freed the slaves, established civil rights for them, many of these were over-turned by Democrats with court challenges, black codes, and Jim Crow laws. Republicans kept fighting for black Americans and made more progress with the 1957 US Civil Rights Act, largely gutted by Democrats, but one that pushed some important aspects forward. The US Civil Rights Act of 1964 actually written by Republicans was supported by 80% of Republicans in Congress while Democrats only supported it with about 55% support, and only at that number because of Lyndon Johnson.

Republicans need to tell the truth to the American People about what Republicans have done. For far too long, Republicans have been too quiet about their relentless efforts on behalf of black Americans. The reason why they don't tout it during campaigns is because as a philosophy they don't want black Americans to feel like they owe Republicans anything, they want them to be free of all that suffering and struggle and vote for who today they think is best for them.

I understand the position of not exploiting black votes, and appreciate the objective, but when Democrats win elections on lies, falsehoods, deceptions and so forth, I think a different approach is necessary because the very people our party was formed to help continue to suffer in large numbers as a result of those lies and deceptions, because too many of them don't know the truth.

Truth is never wrong. Truth is what really sets US all free. It's time for Republicans to stand up and speak out about who has actually done what for black Americans, because black Americans deserve to know the truth about their history due to the impact it has on how they view and deal with the issues of today, especially political ones that affect their jobs, livelihoods, safety and economic security.

This election isn't about "voting rights". Every US citizen can vote in any US election anywhere they are registered, any time there is an election. That's a fact. This election was about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS and fixing our country for black Americans, white Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, all Americans.

I had no idea about how republicans wrote and mostly supported the civil rights act, while democrats barely did. This is good to know when talking to black people about this subject. I never bothered talking to black people about this subject because I figured if I used the "Lincoln freed the slaves" argument, that they would just say that that was ancient history. But this changes things a lot since it happened as recently as the 1960's, in addition to the Lincoln argument. I am going to research this. It would be great if we could document in one place all the things that republicans did for the African American community and how the democrats have been only using them as ignorant voters.