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    Why doesn't Trump prosecute under section 1324 Title 8 of the US code??

    That law makes it a federal felony to encourage illegals to come to or reside in america. Sanctuary (really outlaw) cities are clearly guilty. So is Obama for his two amnesties . And the penalties are very severe. If you encourage an illegal to live here and he kills someone then YOU can be executed. Certainly some of Obama's "dreamers" killed people on our highways and O could be legally executed for that.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324


    A)Any person who—

    (iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law;

    shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
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    This is what everyone asks and is a sensible question. What has happened is that when illegal immigration advocates want to put anything to a legal challenge they pick courts where they think they can get a favorable opinion----California, New York, Maryland, Washington, etc. Their goal is to give illegals full constitutional rights and they do this by carefully picking their battles and slowly chipping away at the edifice of law. They intimidate officials if they don't have outright sympathetic ones! This is what happened in our state, where they picked a certain case to challenge ICE detainers, and managed to intimidate the majority of county sheriffs to where the latter are afraid to detain an illegal beyond their sentence for fear of being sued.
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    Yes, we've been asking it for 15 years. Time for action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    This is what everyone asks and is a sensible question. What has happened is that when illegal immigration advocates want to put anything to a legal challenge they pick courts where they think they can get a favorable opinion----California, New York, Maryland, Washington, etc. Their goal is to give illegals full constitutional rights and they do this by carefully picking their battles and slowly chipping away at the edifice of law. They intimidate officials if they don't have outright sympathetic ones! This is what happened in our state, where they picked a certain case to challenge ICE detainers, and managed to intimidate the majority of county sheriffs to where the latter are afraid to detain an illegal beyond their sentence for fear of being sued.
    Ok - but how does that explain why trump does not enforce section 1324 title 8. What defense would these outlaw cities have if charged with violating this statute.?
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    It's the DOJ under Sessions who would have to do it. Maybe Sessions is looking into it. I sure hope so. Maybe someone from the White House will read our forum and get your statute number and send a message to Sessions to direct him to pursue this statute for the prosecutions of everybody aiding and abetting these illegal aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    This is what everyone asks and is a sensible question. What has happened is that when illegal immigration advocates want to put anything to a legal challenge they pick courts where they think they can get a favorable opinion----California, New York, Maryland, Washington, etc. Their goal is to give illegals full constitutional rights and they do this by carefully picking their battles and slowly chipping away at the edifice of law. They intimidate officials if they don't have outright sympathetic ones! This is what happened in our state, where they picked a certain case to challenge ICE detainers, and managed to intimidate the majority of county sheriffs to where the latter are afraid to detain an illegal beyond their sentence for fear of being sued.
    I like thought experiments, even with the law, so please don't take my reply as sarcastic.

    But if I kidnapped someone and brought them to another state, The US Marshall, FBI, State Police, county sheriffs and city cops, Park Rangers, Constables and regular citizens would be trying to catch me. What court could I go to, in order to get a "more favorable" judicial system?

    These US Presidents, including the one today and going back as far as you can remember, have you ever heard of anyone being prosecuted under US Code Paragraph 8, Sections 1324, 1325 and 1252c?

    I really can't think of anyone that has been convicted of this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's the DOJ under Sessions who would have to do it. Maybe Sessions is looking into it. I sure hope so. Maybe someone from the White House will read our forum and get your statute number and send a message to Sessions to direct him to pursue this statute for the prosecutions of everybody aiding and abetting these illegal aliens.
    I constantly hear people refer to the Attorney General as the Top Cop of the country. The POTUS is the top law enforcement officer. The POTUS can bring charges to your door. If he can't charge people with a crime, why does he have the power to pardon crimes? Be advised I am talking about federal crimes, including the UCMJ.

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    The Attorney General is not supposed to be the Top Cop. The AG is supposed to be the TOP Prosecutor. This is where our system has gotten really really messed up. The FBI needs to be removed from the Department of Justice, completely, all of it moved out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The Attorney General is not supposed to be the Top Cop. The AG is supposed to be the TOP Prosecutor. This is where our system has gotten really really messed up. The FBI needs to be removed from the Department of Justice, completely, all of it moved out.

    OK, I stand corrected. Can Trump simply direct the AG to look into cases where alien sheltering or alien comfort is given in any way.
    From what I understand from studying law, The Feds are the limit. It should be so easy to get a warrant for people that leave water in the desert or anyone that interferes with a law enforcement operation (Mrs. California Mayor). This should be a "slam dunk" as that punchable face on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's the DOJ under Sessions who would have to do it. Maybe Sessions is looking into it. I sure hope so. Maybe someone from the White House will read our forum and get your statute number and send a message to Sessions to direct him to pursue this statute for the prosecutions of everybody aiding and abetting these illegal aliens.
    What? You saying the WH doesn't even know about this statute??? That's pretty hard to believe.
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