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    Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump

    Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump

    Peter Wehner JAN. 14, 2016

    Beginning with Ronald Reagan, I have voted Republican in every presidential election since I first became eligible to vote in 1980. I worked in the Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations and in the White House for George W. Bush as a speechwriter and adviser. I have also worked for Republican presidential campaigns, although not this time around.

    Despite this history, and in important ways because of it, I will not vote for Donald Trump if he wins the Republican nomination.

    I should add that neither could I vote in good conscience for Hillary Clinton or any of the other Democrats running for president, since they oppose many of the things I have stood for in my career as a conservative — and, in the case of Mrs. Clinton, because I consider her an ethical wreck. If Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton were the Republican and Democratic nominees, I would prefer to vote for a responsible third-party alternative; absent that option, I would simply not cast a ballot for president. A lot of Republicans, I suspect, would do the same.

    There are many reasons to abstain from voting for Mr. Trump if he is nominated, starting with the fact that he would be the most unqualified president in American history. Every one of our 44 presidents has had either government or military experience before being sworn in. Mr. Trump, a real estate mogul and former reality-television star, hasn’t served a day in public office or the armed forces.

    During the course of this campaign he has repeatedly revealed his ignorance on basic matters of national interest — the three ways the United States is capable of firing nuclear weapons (by land, sea and air), the difference between the Quds Force in Iran and the Kurds to their west, North Korea’s nuclear tests, the causes of autism, the effects of his tax plan on the deficit and much besides.

    Mr. Trump has no desire to acquaint himself with most issues, let alone master them. He has admitted that he doesn’t prepare for debates or study briefing books; he believes such things get in the way of a good performance. No major presidential candidate has ever been quite as disdainful of knowledge, as indifferent to facts, as untroubled by his benightedness.

    It is little surprise, then, that many of Mr. Trump’s most celebrated pronouncements and promises — to quickly and “humanely” expel 11 million illegal immigrants, to force Mexico to pay for the wall he will build on our southern border, to defeat the Islamic State “very quickly” while as a bonus taking its oil, to bar Muslims from immigrating to the United States — are nativistic pipe dreams and public relations stunts.

    Even more disqualifying is Mr. Trump’s temperament. He is erratic, inconsistent and unprincipled. He possesses a streak of crudity and cruelty that manifested itself in how he physically mocked a Times journalist with a disability, ridiculed Senator John McCain for being a P.O.W., made a reference to “blood” intended to degrade a female journalist and compared one of his opponents to a child molester.

    Mr. Trump’s legendary narcissism would be comical were it not dangerous in someone seeking the nation’s highest office — as he demonstrated when he showered praise on the brutal, anti-American president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, responding to Mr. Putin’s expression of admiration for Mr. Trump.

    “It is always a great honor,” Mr. Trump said last month, “to be so nicely complimented by a man so highly respected within his own country and beyond.”

    Mr. Trump’s virulent combination of ignorance, emotional instability, demagogy, solipsism and vindictiveness would do more than result in a failed presidency; it could very well lead to national catastrophe. The prospect of Donald Trump as commander in chief should send a chill down the spine of every American.

    For Republicans, there is an additional reason not to vote for Mr. Trump. His nomination would pose a profound threat to the Republican Party and conservatism, in ways that Hillary Clinton never could. For while Mrs. Clinton could inflict a defeat on the Republican Party, she could not redefine it. But Mr. Trump, if he were the Republican nominee, would.

    Mr. Trump’s presence in the 2016 race has already had pernicious effects, but they’re nothing compared with what would happen if he were the Republican standard-bearer. The nominee, after all, is the leader of the party; he gives it shape and definition. If Mr. Trump heads the Republican Party, it will no longer be a conservative party; it will be an angry, bigoted, populist one. Mr. Trump would represent a dramatic break with and a fundamental assault on the party’s best traditions.

    The Republican Party’s best traditions, of course, have not always been evident. (The same is true of the Democratic Party, by the way.) Over the years we have seen antecedents of today’s Trumpism both on issues and in style — for example, in Pat Buchanan’s presidential campaigns in the 1990s, in Sarah Palin’s rise in the party, in the reckless rhetoric of some on the right like Ann Coulter.

    The sentiments animating these individuals have had influence in the party, and in recent years growing influence. But they have not been dominant and they have certainly never been in control. Mr. Trump’s securing the Republican nomination would change all that. Whatever problems one might be tempted to lay at the feet of the Republican Party, Donald Trump is in a different and more destructive category.

    In these pages in July 1980, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the Democratic senator from New York, declared, “Of a sudden, the G.O.P. has become a party of ideas.” If Mr. Trump wins the nomination, the G.O.P. will become the party of anti-reason.

    I will go further: Mr. Trump is precisely the kind of man our system of government was designed to avoid, the type of leader our founders feared — a demagogic figure who does not view himself as part of our constitutional system but rather as an alternative to it.

    I understand that it often happens that those of us in politics don’t get the nominee we want, yet we nevertheless unify behind the candidate who wins our party’s nomination. If those who don’t get their way pick up their marbles and go home, party politics doesn’t work. That has always been my view, until now. Donald Trump has altered the political equation because he has altered the moral equation. For this lifelong Republican, at least, he is beyond the pale. Party loyalty has limits.

    No votes have yet been cast, primary elections are fluid, and sobriety often prevails, so Mr. Trump is hardly the inevitable Republican nominee. But, stunningly, that is now something that is quite conceivable. If this scenario comes to pass, many Republicans will find themselves in a situation they once thought unimaginable: refusing to support the nominee of their party because it is the best thing that they can do for their party and their country.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/op...rump.html?_r=0
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    Moved to general discussion. 2016 Political articles.

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    What are you really afraid of?

    1. That he'll make peace and build relations with Russia?
    2. That he'll secure our borders and deport illegal aliens?
    3. That he'll correct the bad trade deals and balance our trade deficits?
    4. That he'll grow our party with generational citizens?
    5. That he'll balance the budget?
    6. That he'll create tens of millions of jobs for US citizens?
    7. That he'll re-build our infrastructure and redevelop our ghettos?

    Yeah, you should be afraid, very very afraid, because that is exactly what he will do. And he won't even need a speech-writer to tell us when he does. I'm looking forward to the Trump Presidency with more enthusiasm than I ever had for a candidate, especially his Monday morning Press Conferences that will be like a Polls and Progress Report every week. Hell, he might even have one every day. He'll be winning, solving and fixing every minute of his Presidency and like he says on the trail, he'll have so much good news about his accomplishments that we may tire of our Happy Times.

    But I'm a Good News Bear, so it's a risk this voter is willing to take, and do so gleefully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Moved to general discussion. 2016 Political articles.
    The article discusses deporting 11 million illegal aliens and stopping Muslim immigration, that's why I put it in the immigration news section. I just hadn't had time to put the paragraph in bold yet. The author calls us "nativists" and calls Trump's policy a "public relations stunt".

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    are nativistic pipe dreams and public relations stunts.
    Hey! I resemble these remarks lol.

    This writer tries hard to convince readers he is some kind of "conservative" but then suddenly starts sounding like the radical socialists over at the Southern Poverty Like Center like Mark Potok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    Hey! I resemble these remarks lol.

    This writer tries hard to convince readers he is some kind of "conservative" but then suddenly starts sounding like the radical socialists over at the Southern Poverty Like Center like Mark Potok.

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    Exactly. Another member of the "Establishment" has exposed himself.
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    MR PETER WEHNER

    FIRST OF ALL NO ONE ASK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE . YOU VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT
    I FOR ONE WATCH & LISTEN TO TRUMP . WHEN HE WAS ON THE MICHAEL SAVAGE STATION I DID NOT LIKE WHAT HE SAID) BUT AGAIN I LISTEN THIS TIME & I DID LIKE WHAT HE SAID
    WHEN HE SAID ABOUT JOB'S& THE WALL & MANY OTHER THING . HE VISIT THE MEXICO BORDER NO OTHER ONE DID THEY ?HE IS THE ONLY THAT FOR OUR COUNTRY YES EVERY ON KICK HIM DOWN I SAY EVERY ONE IS AFRAID OF HIM HE KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING I SAY EVERY ONE OF YOU SHOULD GET OFF YOU SOAP BOX TRUMP SEE WHAT GOING ON AS WELL OBAMA IS NOT DOING ONE THING ABOUT IT OBAMA WAS ON THE OTHER NIGHT I FOR ONE DID NOT WATCH HIM AT ALL ALL HE DID WAS LIE LIKE HELL ANOTHER THING READ WHAT JUDY POST
    SHE 100 % RIGHT & AS FOR HILLARY I DON'T HER AT ALL NOT AFTER WHAT SHE DID TO OUR GUY'S
    GOOD LUCK TRUMP

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    Peter Wehner,

    Since you worked so many years as an insider with the DC elites, you are part of the problem and complacent with
    the policies of your prior bosses and their contribution to our nations downward spiral.

    You use many adjectives to describe your feelings of Donald Trump and in truth, your opinions are worthless.

    My recommendation to you is to get your head out of the sand.

    Barack Obama, aka 'Barry Soetoro', is undoubtedly the most dangerous, incompetent, unqualified and corrupt president in history. He came in without executive or legislative experience.

    Obama never worked for a corporation or managed a business in his life. He has never competently managed anything, not even so much as a lemon-aid stand.

    He worked as a "community organizer". Does 'Acorn' ring any bells?

    Obama
    was never a professor; he was a part-time lecturer. He did not have the qualifications to be a professor or even a teacher.

    Obama did not specialize in the Constitution nor was he a constitutional scholar.

    Barack Obama, our most
    unqualified chief executive has become an embarrassment to our nation, has made our country a laughing stock to the world and what
    is even worse, to our most deadly enemies.

    Donald J. Trump, is the only man with the qualifications to make our country great again!
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    About Peter Wehner. Not surprising that he would attack Trump in the media for the establishment GOP. That is where he has made and still makes his living. JMO

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    Peter Wehner, former Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives, is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

    Mr. Wehner served in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administrations prior to becoming deputy director of speech writing for President George W. Bush in 2001. In 2002, he was asked to head the Office of Strategic Initiatives, where he generated policy ideas, reached out to public intellectuals, published op-eds and essays, and provided counsel on a range of domestic and international issues. Prior to joining the Bush Administration, Wehner was executive director for policy for Empower America, a conservative public-policy organization. Mr. Wehner also served as a special assistant to the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy and, before that, as a speech writer for then-Secretary of Education Bill Bennett.

    Mr. Wehner writes widely on political, cultural, religious, and national-security issues. Since leaving the White House in 2007 he has written for Commentary, The Weekly Standard, National Review, theWashington Post, the Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal, and elsewhere. He also writes regularly for Commentary magazine’s blog “Contentions” and National Review Online. Mr. Wehner has also appeared as a commentator on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, C-SPAN television, and the BBC.

    A native of Dallas, Texas, Mr. Wehner grew up in Richland, Washington and is a graduate of the University of Washington. He and his wife Cindy have three children and live in McLean, Virginia.

    http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/peter_wehner.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    About Peter Wehner. Not surprising that he would attack Trump in the media for the establishment GOP. That is where he has made and still makes his living. JMO

    Arena Profile:Peter Wehner



    Peter Wehner, former Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives, is a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

    Mr. Wehner served in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush Administrations prior to becoming deputy director of speech writing for President George W. Bush in 2001. In 2002, he was asked to head the Office of Strategic Initiatives, where he generated policy ideas, reached out to public intellectuals, published op-eds and essays, and provided counsel on a range of domestic and international issues. Prior to joining the Bush Administration, Wehner was executive director for policy for Empower America, a conservative public-policy organization. Mr. Wehner also served as a special assistant to the director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy and, before that, as a speech writer for then-Secretary of Education Bill Bennett.

    Mr. Wehner writes widely on political, cultural, religious, and national-security issues. Since leaving the White House in 2007 he has written for Commentary, The Weekly Standard, National Review, theWashington Post, the Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal, and elsewhere. He also writes regularly for Commentary magazine’s blog “Contentions” and National Review Online. Mr. Wehner has also appeared as a commentator on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, C-SPAN television, and the BBC.

    A native of Dallas, Texas, Mr. Wehner grew up in Richland, Washington and is a graduate of the University of Washington. He and his wife Cindy have three children and live in McLean, Virginia.

    http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/peter_wehner.html
    Aaah, another Bush Boy planted article. Sickening.
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