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    Will multiculturalism end Europe? by Pat Buchanan




    Will multiculturalism end Europe?

    Posted: February 14, 2011
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    Multiculturalism has "totally failed," says German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    "State multiculturalism has had disastrous results," says Britain's David Cameron.

    Is multiculturalism a failure in France? "My answer is clearly yes, it is a failure," says President Nicolas Sarkozy.

    Ex-Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar has declared multiculturalism a failure in Spain, saying it divides and debilitates Western societies.

    Only in Canada and the U.S., it seems, is the issue still in dispute.

    Yet these European leaders are not leading anyone. They are far behind the people, and their belated appreciation of the idea of national identity is but a product of political panic. Take Merkel in Germany.

    Last summer, Thilo Sarrazin published a book the title of which may be translated as "Germany Abolishes Itself."

    Sarrazin argued that Germany's gastarbeiters, guest workers – Turks, Kurds, Arabs – are dumbing down the nation. While Germany's birth rate fell below replacement levels decades ago, these foreigners with less intelligence and much higher dropout, welfare and crime rates are rapidly replacing the declining German population.

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    "It is a matter of culture," said Sarrazin, and "Islam is the culture." This is why Muslim immigrants are "socially, culturally and intellectually inferior to most everyone else." Yet Sarrazin did use the phrase a "genetic minus" to describe migrants from the Middle East.

    Were these the ravings of a neo-fascist intellectual and closet admirer of the late Fuhrer? Not at all. Sarrazin was a proud member of the Social Democratic Party of Willy Brandt and a board member of the Bundesbank.

    With Merkel and the German establishment howling for his head, Thilo resigned, unrepentant. Two-thirds of Germans said he had a right to speak his mind, a third said they agreed with him, and "Germany Abolishes Itself" has sold over a million copies.

    It was in response to the firestorm of the Sarrazin affair that Merkel discovered that multiculturalism was a failure. Her EU colleagues have since been falling all over one another to agree.

    Another factor has contributed to the sudden awakening of the EU's elite – an explosion of anti-immigrant parties that are siphoning off working-class voters from socialist parties and nationalist voters from conservative parties.

    Among these are Jean-Marie Le Pen's National Front in France, the British National Party, the Vlaams Belang in Belgium, Geert Wilders' Freedom Party in Holland, the Swiss People's Party of Christoph Blocher, which won the battle to ban the burka, the Austrian Freedom Party and Alliance for Austria's Future, the Jobbik Party of Hungary, the Lega Nord in Italy, which favors secession, the Danish People's Party and the Sweden Democrats, who just won a toehold in parliament.

    What these parties share is that all are anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and ethnonational. They want to retain, or restore, a nation of, by and for their own kind, with its own history, holidays, heroes, language, literature, music and art. They are fiercely resistant to any dilution of the ethnic composition or cultural character of their countries.

    What is the menace of multiculturalism these people see?

    From Moscow to Marseilles, from Stockholm to Sicily, they see the Muslims pouring in and creating tiny nations within the nation, and being unwilling to embrace a new identity as Englishmen, French or German.

    And their fears are not unjustified.

    For just as the populist parties are deeply ethnonational, proud of their identity as Swiss, Austrian, German, English, Dutch or Flemish, the newcomers, too, are deeply ethnonational: Turkish, Arab and African.

    And Islam is a faith that is itself anti-multicultural.

    Devout Muslims do not believe all religions are equal. They believe there is one God, Allah, and submission to his law is the path to paradise. They do not believe in freedom of speech and the press if it means mocking the Prophet. They do not believe in Western dress codes or mixing men and women in schools and sports. They do not believe all lifestyles are equal. Some think adulterers should be stoned and honor killings are justified for girls who disgrace the family.

    They wish to live their faith and their culture in our countries, to live alongside us but to dwell apart.

    "If you come to France," said Sarkozy last week, "you accept to melt into a single community, which is the national community, and if you do not want to accept that, you cannot be welcome in France."

    A little late for that. Some 5 million to 8 million Arabs and Muslims are in France, their birth rate is higher, and more are on the way.

    The real questions: Whose idea was it to bring these people in? And what do France, Britain and Germany do if they say: This is a democracy, we will live as we wish to live, according to our beliefs, not yours.

    How does a liberal, permissive society that celebrates diversity impose its values on a militant immigrant minority that rejects them?

    Answer: It doesn't. All the rest is chatter.

    This is what James Burnham meant when he wrote that liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.


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    Re: Will multiculturalism end Europe? by Pat Buchanan

    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    How does a liberal, permissive society that celebrates diversity impose its values on a militant immigrant minority that rejects them?

    Answer: It doesn't. All the rest is chatter.

    This is what James Burnham meant when he wrote that liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.


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    At a point though there will be a boiling over point as far as what people will take. At that point I'd expect a new hardcore approach government to be instilled with major changes that will attempt to forcibly remove the elements in conflict. It will happen, the real question is at that point will it be to late and will those people still be the majority or already be in the minority having lost the fight w/o realizing it by being out numbered.

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    Re: Will multiculturalism end Europe? by Pat Buchanan

    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    Only in Canada and the U.S., it seems, is the issue still in dispute.

    Yet these European leaders are not leading anyone. They are far behind the people, and their belated appreciation of the idea of national identity is but a product of political panic.

    Another factor has contributed to the sudden awakening of the EU's elite – an explosion of anti-immigrant parties that are siphoning off working-class voters from socialist parties and nationalist voters from conservative parties. What these parties share is that all are anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and ethnonational. They want to retain, or restore, a nation of, by and for their own kind, with its own history, holidays, heroes, language, literature, music and art. They are fiercely resistant to any dilution of the ethnic composition or cultural character of their countries.

    How does a liberal, permissive society that celebrates diversity impose its values on a militant immigrant minority that rejects them? Answer: It doesn't. All the rest is chatter.
    How about this: They came here, we didn't go there. It's their job to figure out how we do things.
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    The real questions: Whose idea was it to bring these people in?
    Another question would be WHO continues to allow these folks to come into our country?

    History is full of debate concerning "freedom of religion." In our early years prior to independence as well as after we became a nation. Freedom of religion is not as simple as a free for all that we see today. Massachusetts had a state sponsored religion til 1835 or so; Quakers and Baptists and others were persecuted and deemed second rate citizens at that time. Freedom of religion in the earlier years was understood as freedom to worship, or not to, amongst and by the various Christian denominations. The American history books are full of references to different "religions" with implied reference to the various denominations of the Christian Church. The earlier writers did not use the term "denominations" in the earlier years. I am still on the look out for the introduction of the term "denominations" and when that might have been. Point being, our founding generations used the word "religions" as oppossed to "denominations." Ask the natives how well "freedom of religion"worked out for them. Or the Chinese immigrants in the years following the gold rush in California.

    Those who founded, and those afterwards understood the incompatability of the Musselmen and the Christian faith. This is in the older writings. Some of the writings and sources are quite revealing, so much so as one would have to ask, knowing full well that those in positions of power, knew full well the incompatability, why, "open such a can of worms?"

    Sooner or later Americans will have to take a close look at, and determine the direction we are going, or being led towards, as our nation was founded by Christians and as a Christian nation, and it was understood that others were not compatible with our form of government.

    Perhaps we were lulled to sleep for too long and allowed those that hate Christianity to "cut off their noses to spite their faces" and we will have ours cut off as infidels for sleeping too long?

    Perhaps there is some wisdom in the story of "The Tower of Babel?"

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    Multi cult?

    Not a bad concept and America has done ok with it until the last 20 years

    Now it seems its all cultures vs hispanic culture

    The melting pot concept was ok when it was controlled to an extent
    but uncontrolled invasion by one eithnicity and culture is going to doom the whole concept.

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    Another factor has contributed to the sudden awakening of the EU's elite – an explosion of anti-immigrant parties that are siphoning off working-class voters from socialist parties and nationalist voters from conservative parties.
    Perhaps this would help to stop this madness here in America? Perhaps it has already started?

    Make no mistakes, those elites understood the consequences of the multi-culturalism as implemented. Acting like stupid fools is just that,....acting. The "thousand points of light" does not come from the innocent and feigning fools.

    The multi-culturalism of the past, the so called "melting pot" was by and large amongst the same religion, Christian.

    If we all could just become atheists, then we could allow some men to act like gods.

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