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    This Election Isn't about Trump

    This Election Isn't about Trump


    This election is not about Donald Trump. The name on the Republican presidential ballot could have been any of the 16 that ran in the primary races. The name doesn’t matter. What matters is the reason for winning. The reason is to restore the heart of America.

    Ask yourself, do you really want Obamcare for the rest of your lives, your children’s lives? Each year it gets engrained more and more into our society making it harder to get rid of. If the Democrats win it stays; if they gain back control of the House and Senate, they may add to it. Even Bill Clinton in Michigan this past week said it was crazy.

    Again, the name Trump on the top of the ticket does not matter. I hear you, I understand: his language against women, his alleged assaults. You are right, it’s bad; so is the language in locker rooms or bars or other places men hang out. This is a diversion from our main mission.

    Ask yourself; can I really trust Mrs. Clinton? If she wins, we have heard her statements on issues like Benghazi. They asked for increased security and the State Dept. never gave it. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the attack was due to a video, but we found out later she knew different. She has a long history of lying to the American people. Back in 1996 she claimed when she landed in Bosnia she had to run cause she was under sniper fire.

    These are just two of her many, many lies to the American people. Do you really fear Donald Trump more?

    Again, don’t let Donald Trump being president scare you. With all his faults, you can trust him a whole lot more than Hillary. I still hear you: what about his taxes or going bankrupt? It all window dressing to get you off track of our real goal, and that is to take back America. Sure 4 of his hundreds of business ventures went bankrupt; millions of people in America have, and yes his was way larger. It’s allowed. He is a businessman and business people use bankruptcy all the time to improve their positions, to save money, keep jobs. Look at General Motors; are you saying you will never buy a GM car because they went bankrupt? Tax deductions? We all take whatever the law lets us take. That’s why you go to places like H&R Block or buy that computer software, so you become aware of the tax deductions you are allowed to take. I’m sure some of you have had loses and carried them forward to avoid paying taxes just as Mr. Trump did. Well except his were larger than yours or mine. It’s okay, don’t get distracted by it.

    Republicans are different in many ways from Democrats and I am not talking political views. The overall view of Democrats seems to be, the end justifies the means. I can hear you now saying, that’s not true, and we care. Well, when was the last time a Democrat was thrown out of office for doing something wrong? No it wasn’t Charles Rangel, even though he was found guilty on 11 counts of House ethics violations, failing to report rental income from a villa in the Dominican Republic, (How do you forget you own an multi million dollar villa?) It was Anthony Weiner for his photos and he almost got away with it. Hard working union Democrats still love Bill Clinton even if he signed NAFTA into law and cost many of them their jobs. Many Democrats are great Catholic believing people, but they still vote for Democrats who are pro-abortion. Democrats are willing to divide their beliefs in order to get the ends that they want and stay united in the process.

    Republicans, well we like to bury our wounded. First to get elected you have to pass a whole set of litmus tests to see if you are conservative enough, if you agree on all the right issues, get the proper endorsements, then you have to get elected with only partial support of all GOP voters since you may not have passed all their tests. Then if you drop the ball somewhere along the way, you get beat up on by your own party and if it’s bad enough you are thrown out, while the Democrats just watch while we do their work for them. Why can’t we unite like the Democrats do?

    We are killing ourselves and letting the other side win! Why? The GOP needs to do something it may have never done, and that is getting united against a common foe. Look at Hillary Rodham Clinton. Do you really want her, America? Will she go back to “President Rodham” if elected? Will you let it happen just because we do not have a perfect candidate?

    Really? Well that perfect choice is not coming to run for president. A half a sandwich to a starving man is better than no food at all.

    I consider myself a conservative first, then a Republican, but I am a realist too. Yes I want a candidate to walk and talk and believe in a certain way. But, I want to first of all make sure the other side doesn’t win. Because their beliefs are truly not my beliefs.

    I know it’s rare, if not impossible to get a candidate that matches up 100% to what you want. So we have to choose. Thus I beg you, I plead with you to really look at what Hillary will and can do if elected president. If you say I am still voting for Hillary cause I just can’t stand Trump, well don’t complain about what you will get in the next 8 years. Yes, I said 8 years because I see no one on the horizon that will defeat her if elected in 4 years. That means liberal laws, liberal judges, more lies to the America people. You will have wished you had voted for Trump. If Trump wins he still will have to deal with Congress to get his ideas past and that isn’t so easy. Just look who is running both Houses.

    So I say for the last time, this election is not about Donald Trump. The name doesn’t matter. What matters is the reason for winning. The reason is to restore the heart of America.


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    I consider myself a conservative first, then a Republican, but I am a realist too. Yes I want a candidate to walk and talk and believe in a certain way. But, I want to first of all make sure the other side doesn’t win. Because their beliefs are truly not my beliefs.
    I am an American first, then a Republican. Conservatism while it has many fine features is actually different than both Americanism and Republicanism. Therein lies much of the cause of the divide in the Republican Party and perhaps even throughout the nation.

    People who are conservatives first have tried to turn our Republican Party into a Conservative Party, which doesn't work. Republicanism is Social Liberal Fiscal Conservative.

    If you support true Republicanism, then conservatives may want to relax some of their social views, so our party and nation can thrive, succeed, prosper and be great again.

    Conservatives, ask yourselves this, in 1960, would you have volunteered your life as over 2,000,000 Americans did to fight to the death in what would become the bloodiest war ever fought by Americans to free 4,000,000 slaves in the South, people you didn't know and who would never know you? Probably not. Would conservatives to uphold Brown versus Board of Education supported a President, like Nixon, who 20 years after this supreme court ruling decided this ruling must be enforced, threaten federal intervention to enforce that ruling to enforce the law and desegregate the South? Probably not.

    There was a term for Republicans in the 1860's, called Radical Republicans. Yes, they were radical. And to a great extent many of us still are Radical Republicans, because we believe in the issues our party was formed to resolve.

    Donald Trump is actually a Radical Republican. His message is as Republican at its core as any message of any candidate in my lifetime. He's the culmination of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower as there will ever be.

    I love my conservative friends, but it seems some may not always understand the radical nature of Real Republicans when it comes to certain issues, secure borders to protect our population from too many people and too few jobs, protected trade to protect our businesses and industry that create those jobs, lower taxes to confine government and protect the earnings and wealth of our people, abhorrence to wars without purpose that don't benefit our nation and people, absolute support for civil rights and equal rights, big visions for big projects that benefit all of our people, like Lincoln's Railroad and Teddy's national parks, Eisenhower's interstate highway system, Richard Nixon's OSHA, EPA and National Cancer Institute, or like the Republicans in Congress who voted for the Social Security Act by an 80% to 20% margin, when Democrats only supported it with 55% of their vote, or like the Republicans who voted for the US Civil Rights Act that also voted in support of the civil rights legislation by an over 80% to less than 20% margin with Democrats again voting support at much lower levels. Republicans have always supported big ideas, in fact, the US Civil Rights Act was a Republican idea that a war was fought to establish, 3 Amendments to the US Constitution were passed, and who actually wrote the US Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the US Voting Rights Act of 1965 that many believe were Democrat initiatives, when they weren't at all. They are Republican Initiatives that the party was started to complete.

    Donald Trump is the True Republican, which is why the Democratic Party despises him with more hate than I've ever seen in an election in my life-time, and that is also why some Republicans who are conservatives have difficulty understanding or appreciating him. Donald Trump isn't changing the Republican Party, he's fixing it from the changes of conservative influence, conservatives who support illegal immigration, conservatives who like free trade, conservatives who vote Republican but really aren't Republicans because they believe in the complete opposite of what the Republican Party has believed in for 162 years. These are the RINOS, because they don't think the same way as Radical Republicans.

    It's time to bring our party together, set aside our differences, and unite behind our common ground to get Donald Trump to the White House so he can fix our country and make US great again, something he can do and will do for ALL AMERICANS.

    My 20 year old nephew in Northern Virginia wasn't sure who he was supporting and has been totally grossed out by the MEDIA coverage of the tape and the stories of these women. He's in college and most of his friends were Bernie Supporters. We talked about this the other day and you know what this darling young man said, "Trump's problem is he's too honest. In politics, you have to lie." I agreed with him on the first part and then we discussed the second part. What I told him was you don't have to lie to succeed in politics. It's just easier. It's takes enormous courage and bravado to tell the truth when the truth is hard. Trump has that courage and bravado to take the heat when he tells the truth about trade, immigration, war, and so much more. It's takes enormous honesty and bravery to stand on a debate stage and tell the American Public with all the Bushes lined up in the audience and a Bush on the stage with him, GW Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq." I told my nephew our politicians must be honest and loyal, they must put Americans first, always and foremost.

    My nephew asked, but how can you win elections doing that? I said well, stay tuned for the next 3 weeks and you'll see.

    Today he sent me emails one was about MSNBC that had 3 women on the talk show, they all thought the women were NOT telling the truth and he closed with "maybe things are turning around for Trump".

    Yes they are, dear nephew. The truth is hard, just as being good is hard, but this is the United States where truth and good will prevail and overcome lies and evil.

    TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!! TRUMP!!
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