Thread: You forgot 2, Mr. President!

You forgot 2, Mr. President!
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Posted: December 25, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


Former U.S. Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos embraced his wife, Monica Ramos, two days before he was sentenced to 11 years in prison (El Paso Times)

President Bush has disappointed his staunchest supporters no few times during his presidency – but nothing, not even his failed attempt to force a flawed immigration bill upon the nation, has been more disappointing than his refusal to pardon or commute the sentences of the incarcerated border agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean.

On Dec. 11, 29 convicted criminals received presidential pardons. They included persons convicted of tax evasion, bank fraud, drug smugglers and dealers and a moonshiner. However, while President Bush was willing to extend the ultimate gift of the season to corrupt criminal elements, he stubbornly refuses to show the same forgiveness to Ramos and Compean. Unquestionably, criminal elements are now free to enjoy Christmas with their families while the two border agents languish in prison, separated from theirs.

Ramos and Compean are serving 11 and 12 years, respectively, after being convicted of assault, obstruction of justice and civil rights violations related to the wounding of Mexican drug-smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila. On Feb. 17, 2005, the agents chased Davila near the U.S.-Mexican border outside of El Paso, Texas, after Davila abandoned a van containing 743 pounds of marijuana with an estimated value of more than $1 million.

As the border agents attempted to apprehend Davila, he wrestled with Compean, ultimately escaping. As he fled, Davila produced and pointed an object that Ramos thought was a gun. Ramos fired at the fleeing Davila, but thought he had missed. In reality, Davila had been wounded in the buttocks, yet still managed to escape across the Rio Grande, where be met an accomplice who then drove him into Mexico.

Prosecutors claimed the agents had violated Border Patrol policy when they pursued Davila without supervisor approval, that Compean moved shell casings, and that both did not properly report the shots fired. Testifying against Ramos and Compean, under the veil of immunity from prosecution for his actions on the night in question, was none other than Davila himself.

T. J. Bonner of the National Border Control policy noted in Senate testimony that jurors were not told of Davila's continued drug trafficking after he was granted immunity (something for which he has since been indicted), nor that an agent who testified against Ramos and Compean is a life-long friend of Davila (a clear violation of agency policy). Bonner also testified that the shooting was justified by both Department of Justice and Border Patrol policies – and that a medical examination of Davila had supported the agents' description of events. Still, Ramos and Compean went to jail.

From the beginning of the agents' prosecution, there has been a bitter public outcry and wide ranging, bi-partisan congressional support for the border agents – all of which has fallen on deaf White House ears.


Agent Jose Compean (KFOX-TV)

It can be argued that the agents may have dispensed their duties in a way that on some level inadvertently abrogated the strict letter of their proper protocol. It cannot be argued that they are being punished proportionately for the offense.

President Bush has made a habit of letting his penchant for brash bravado cause himself and his party embarrassment. He did it standing on the deck of the USS Lincoln when he declared, "Mission accomplished." He did it when he tried to convince his base and the nation that Harriet Miers was the quintessential best pick as the nominee to be a Supreme Court justice – leaving us to ask in retrospect: "If said were true, what did that make replacement nominee Samuel Alito?" He did it when he stood before a global media in Softa, Bulgaria and boasted, "I'll see you at the bill signing," in reference to the flawed immigration bill that subsequently suffered a much-deserved ignominious defeat. Now he purposes to make an even more egregious error in judgment by ignoring the pleas for forgiveness for two of the agents responsible for securing our borders. Something one could be forgiven for assuming he has little real interest in doing.

President Bush is no longer owner of a baseball team. The futures of the now tortured and oft-threatened lives of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean are not subject to contract negotiations. They cannot simply sell their services to the highest bidder. However, as president of the United States, Bush can offer them new contracts – contracts that at the very least show them the same mercy and level of forgiveness the president has seen fit to bestow upon those who, statistics show, are very likely to return to lives of crime. Yet the chances of Ramos and Compean being anything but committed assets to their communities and country are remote.

It is Christmas. In the spirit of Christmas, President Bush should immediately pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, or at the very least, commute their sentences. His failure to do so can only be viewed as a flagrant abrogation of support for the superior and often dangerous work Americans in uniform do throughout the world to protect our freedoms.

Tell us again, Mr. President, exactly how much you value those who are charged with protecting us. Better still, as you gather with your family, and the drug smugglers you pardoned gather with theirs this Christmas, tell the families of Ramos and Compean.
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I could forgive Bush for a lot of things

BUT NEVER FOR THIS

Disgusting on his part

Given the circumstances, I don't think it should be necessary for any "application" to have to be made in regards to pardoning these two fine officers.

Johnny Sutton - I hope you get yours along with anyone else involved.

Wonder what will happen if it is ever found that allegations against Bush should be found true? I hope he is held accountable under the law. Nixon and Agnew both took theirs. Try to get a pardon BUSH!!

Last week, during a phone conversation, my mother and I CRIED our EYES OUT over THIS! Later I told Mr. Loya, and the sweet man consoled me with his DEEP appreciation for our anguish and compassion for Nacho, Jose, and their families. For the past week, I was FINE and ABLE to ENJOY Christmas with my Brazilian friend and others. Now, however, that Christmas passed WITHOUT Ramos and Compean being FREE to celebrate it AT HOME with their FAMILIES and FRIENDS, I am ready to CRY again--and I AM RIGHT now! SO is my BRAZILIAN friend! Bush, of ALL the DUMB or REPREHENSIBLE things you have EVER done, THIS one hurts MORE than ANY other!

I don't know how he can sleep at night...I really would like to know what he owes Mexico or Calderon!





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Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I don't know how he can sleep at night...I really would like to know what he owes Mexico or Calderon!





--------------------------HELP RED ALERT 12/26-------------------
LETS HELP WILLIAM AND TALK RADIO STOP "THE HUCKSTER" WE WILL NOT HAVE AN AMNESTY PRESIDENT !!!
Instruction and contact information at link below(lets go Alipacer's)
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From what I have heard Bush is being blackmailed as he has sold his soul. I will never forgive Bush, not ever.

Originally Posted by Americanpatriot

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

I don't know how he can sleep at night...I really would like to know what he owes Mexico or Calderon!





--------------------------HELP RED ALERT 12/26-------------------
LETS HELP WILLIAM AND TALK RADIO STOP "THE HUCKSTER" WE WILL NOT HAVE AN AMNESTY PRESIDENT !!!
Instruction and contact information at link below(lets go Alipacer's)
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-95676.html

From what I have heard Bush is being blackmailed as he has sold his soul. I will never forgive Bush, not ever.

Your not alone, I believe the majority of this Nation will never forget or forgive George W. Bush and hopefully he has ruined it for any other Bush to ever enter the white house as the Commador in Chief!!