Thread: Veteran Faces Eviction for Raising Flag

This I don't like this man Is going to be Eviction for Raising American
Flag out side of his Home In Spring Field .ore
what the hell is going on. that SB we have every right to fly Our flag
come On all of you Guy get On the ball & fight SB
stand your ground guy
Good Luck

Veteran Faces Eviction for Raising Flag



SPRINGFIELD, Ore. -- Edward Zivica, a 70-year-old who served in the Navy in the 1960s, faces a hard choice come Veterans Day next week: He can obey the rules and remain in his apartment complex, or he can follow his tradition of hanging the American flag outside his place.

The managers at his subsidized housing project in Springfield, Ore., have given him notice he'll be evicted if he again violates the rules against putting anything on the exterior walls.

That notice came after the flag went up on Oct. 27 for Navy Day, one of several that Zivica marks by hanging it outside the community room near the main entrance. He'd gotten a letter from the management in June telling him to quit.

The flag, he said, was one the Army sent when his dad, a World War II veteran, died. Zivica says a brother also served, in Korea, as a Marine.

He told the paper he doesn't have many options for housing, so he would knuckle under and sign a compliance notice, which he called "a confession" and "an apology."

But he also said he finds it hard not to hang the flag on Veterans Day.

"It's one of the biggest days of the year for us," he said. "... I guess we'll see what happens."

The downtown apartment complex is managed by St. Vincent de Paul of Lane County, which opened it in 2009 with Zivica as one of the first tenants. CEO Terry McDonald said the action wasn't aimed at the American flag as such but rather at preventing a precedent that could lead to more-controversial flags or banners.

After residents requested one, management has put up a flagpole. Zivica calls it "flimsy and cheesy-looking," plastic with no lanyard to hoist the flag or lower it to half-staff. The small flag, he said, has faded to orange after less than a year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/0 ... 74465.html

Elderly vet faces eviction in flag display

November 3, 2011

SPRINGFIELD, Ore., Nov. 3 (UPI) -- A 70-year-old Navy veteran has been threatened with eviction for displaying a large U.S. flag on a wall outside his Springfield, Ore., housing complex.

Edward Zivica says he displays the flag because he desires to show his patriotism on holidays, The Register-Guard, Springfield, Ore., reported. However, St. Vincent de Paul, the managing company of the Aster apartment complex where Zivica lives, says it's against tenant rules that bar hanging anything from exterior walls.

"This has nothing to do with it being an American flag," Terry McDonald, executive director of St. Vincent de Paul of Lane County, said.

The long-running dispute came to a head when Zivica put up the flag Oct. 27 for Navy Day and was served an eviction notice by St. Vincent de Paul.

The notice says Zivica has until Nov. 15 to write a compliance letter stating he will no longer attach "any items to the outside of the building without written permission" or face eviction by the end of the month.

"I didn't think I'd be risking my home by doing this," Zivica said. "But it fits with the heavy-handed way this place is managed."

Zivica said he plans to write the letter because he has few other living options.

"I guess we'll see what happens," he said.

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Thank you so much working 4 Change

Originally Posted by southBronx

Thank you so much working 4 Change

You're welcome southbronx

well let me tell you all something our friend move to Pa
Pittston Pa they move into apartment it at one time was a school & this lady live in the Souht Bx & she work at this school
when they move in this apartment ( they did a wonder full job
on the apartmen)t . well her husband said they don't have Flag
they both go to the offices & told them . well the next day they had
The American Flag up every one in the building came & thank us
& some Veteran Cry .I said thank for what you all did
for Our Country
Gos Bless the Good Old USA

This could be fixed easily if all people in the complex would put up a flag, sadly in modern America people won't stand together.

If the guy being evicted had raised a mexican flag there would have been charges of a hate crime thrown at the property owners for not allowing a mexican flag.

The manager should observe the contradictory nature of his decision. As he denies his action is aimed at the flag, he includes it as equal to anything he does oppose. Also, as he punishes the veteran as a deterent to any possible future controversial banner hanging, he replaces a banner with a statement/event that is present in its absence that rewards any intention to hang anti-American banners there. This is then as contoversial as rewarding an anti-American banner by punishing an American flag. It also compares the flag to a common banner. The veteran is not the author of what is stated on the flag. We all are. The manager in deciding against the flag, decided against his being part of this country, thus rewarding anti-American statementality contained in the empty wall. He is an autocratic bottom-feeder abusing rather than managing. When he did this, he felt his authority become satisfied.

Originally Posted by working4change

Veteran Faces Eviction for Raising Flag



SPRINGFIELD, Ore. -- Edward Zivica, a 70-year-old who served in the Navy in the 1960s, faces a hard choice come Veterans Day next week: He can obey the rules and remain in his apartment complex, or he can follow his tradition of hanging the American flag outside his place.

The managers at his subsidized housing project in Springfield, Ore., have given him notice he'll be evicted if he again violates the rules against putting anything on the exterior walls.

That notice came after the flag went up on Oct. 27 for Navy Day, one of several that Zivica marks by hanging it outside the community room near the main entrance. He'd gotten a letter from the management in June telling him to quit.

The flag, he said, was one the Army sent when his dad, a World War II veteran, died. Zivica says a brother also served, in Korea, as a Marine.

He told the paper he doesn't have many options for housing, so he would knuckle under and sign a compliance notice, which he called "a confession" and "an apology."

But he also said he finds it hard not to hang the flag on Veterans Day.

"It's one of the biggest days of the year for us," he said. "... I guess we'll see what happens."

The downtown apartment complex is managed by St. Vincent de Paul of Lane County, which opened it in 2009 with Zivica as one of the first tenants. CEO Terry McDonald said the action wasn't aimed at the American flag as such but rather at preventing a precedent that could lead to more-controversial flags or banners.

After residents requested one, management has put up a flagpole. Zivica calls it "flimsy and cheesy-looking," plastic with no lanyard to hoist the flag or lower it to half-staff. The small flag, he said, has faded to orange after less than a year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/0 ... 74465.html

And with Veterans Day(NOV 11) right around the corner!!!! SWEET!!!!