Thread: Ron Paul on the Issues

Romney's EXTREMELY poor grasp of economics

Submitted by Ian56 on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 12:48
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Hurt him badly in his own wallet.

Romney splashed out $12m on a new house in California at or near the very top of the housing market.

The house lost 38.7% of it's value in 2 years.

If someone is this stupid with their own money, just imagine how stupid he would be with yours.

If someone is this stupid about basic economics imagine how much he would hurt America.

Romney should have bought some Gold instead

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-romney-...

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Chairman of the RNC: One Dirty Liar Calling Another Dirty Liar A Dirty Liar...

Submitted by pawnstorm12 on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:45
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Reince Priebus (Chairman of the corrupt Republican National Committee), called Harry Reid a Dirty Liar today (which he is).

But Priebus (and his RNC thieves), are in no position to call ANYONE a liar. Afterall, he heads the very organization which made damn sure Ron Paul would never be the Republican nominee for President.

It's a shame that Dr. Paul's biggest obstacle to the office he so rightly deserves, WAS HIS OWN PARTY.

So this charge by Reince Priebus (however true it may be), reminds me of a few old wise sayings:

1. "Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black."
2. "It takes one to know one."
3. "There's no honor among thieves."

That 3rd one is my favorite - and the most true.

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Poll: Romney Trails Obama, Has Image Issue

August 3, 2012 by UPI - United Press International, Inc.


WASHINGTON, (UPI) — President Obama leads presumptive Republican challenger Mitt Romney nationwide, but his lead is smaller in swing states, a Pew Center poll indicated.

The national survey by Washington-based Pew Research Center, released Thursday, indicated Obama holds a double-digit lead over Romney, with 51 percent of adults saying they support Obama or lean toward him, while 41 percent of adults say they support or lean toward Romney.

Pew said its latest results were consistent with polling during the course of 2012. In eight Pew Research Center surveys since January, Obama led Romney by between 4 percentage points and 12 percentage points.

By a 52 percent-to-37 percent margin, more voters say they have an unfavorable than favorable view of Romney, the sixth straight survey during the past nine months in which his image has been in negative territory.

Obama’s image remains more positive among voters; 50 percent offer a favorable assessment of the president and 45 percent an unfavorable one.
Obama holds only a 4 percentage point edge — 48 percent to 44 percent — in 12 of this year’s key battleground states, Pew said. Results didn’t allow for a state-by-state analysis, Pew said, but the overall balance of support in closely contested states has been stable in recent months, with Obama slightly ahead, but neither candidate holding a significant advantage.

Results are based on a nationwide telephone survey conducted July 16-26 among 2,508 adults, including 1,956 registered voters. The margin of error is 2.8 percentage points for the overall sample and 3.2 percentage points for registered voters.

Poll: Romney Trails Obama, Has Image Issue : Personal Liberty Alerts

dont count on my Vote... this former Hard Core Republican will be the best damn Independant I can be ... the GOP & RNC Went A.C.O.R.N and there is NO WAY IN HELL I would even vote for a Party that has become that damn corrupt

matter of fact I am so damn pissed with the corruption of the RNC and the GOP, I will sit out the next election and the local and state politicians in the party can struggle to find another broke voter to fill my shoes... I am so done with the GOP/RNC it may never resolve

The current view of the 2012 presidential election, based on HuffPost Pollster charts and analysis.

Updated: Monday, Aug. 6 1:00 pm ET

Obama 290 Electoral Votes <---- We Have A BINGO Vern

Romney 191 Electoral Votes


270 electoral votes needed to win

Obama vs. Romney Electoral Map

The GOP and RNC have a Suicide Run~Away Train happening and they just dont get it... Romney, just like McCain wasnt picked to Win; he was picked by the Elites to knock out any and all contenders against Obama

These 2 ~ Obama / Romney are Globalists and the Elite have hedged their Bets... there is NO change Coming

It will be a Democrat win and just like Dubya Bush... it will destroy the Conservative Movement and Gut the Republican Party

Obama vs Romney

Last Updated: 8/6

State	Pollster	Poll Date	Obama	Romney
National	Rasmussen Tracking	8/3-8/5	47%	45%
National	Gallup Tracking	7/30-8/5	46%	45%
Washington	Survey USA	8/1-8/2	54%	37%
North Carolina	Rasmussen Reports	8/1-8/1	44%	49%
Indiana	Rasmussen Reports	7/31-8/1	35%	51%
Michigan	EPIC MRA	7/24-7/31	48%	42%
Missouri	Rasmussen Reports	7/30-7/30	44%	50%
Ohio	CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac	7/24-7/30	50%	44%
Florida	CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac	7/24-7/30	51%	45%
Pennsylvania	CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac	7/24-7/30	53%	42%
ConnecticutPPP		7/26-7/29	51%	43%
Florida	PPP	7/26-7/29	48%	47%
New Jersey	Fairleigh Dickinson	7/23-7/29	49%	36%
National	Pew Research	7/16-7/26	51%	41%
Wisconsin	Rasmussen Reports	7/25-7/25	49%	46%

More Obama vs Romney »
Rasmussen Tracking »
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Battleground States: Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
General Election? Read the Karl Rove Playbook

Presidential Polls for 2012 Election - Latest Political National Polls

Projections Shift More Towards Obama

Even Karl Rove has Obama winning.
8/3/12

Last week, Obama was up 270-201 in the average of projections. He is doing even better this week.

	Obama	Romney	Tossup	(margin) vs Last Week
AVERAGE	278	206
Election Projection	332	206	0	-
Electoral-Vote	332	206	0	-
NationalPolls.com	341	197	0	Obama +32
US Election Atlas	303	235	0	-
Race 4 2012 (no tossups)	290	248	0	Romney +26
Five Thirty Eight Nov. 6 Forecast	298	240	0	Obama +12
Huffington Post	290	191	57	Obama +18
NPR	237	206	95	-
Washington Post	237	206	95	-
Karl Rove	280	182	76	Obama +33
Real Clear Politics	247	191	100	Romney +49
NY Times	237	206	95	Obama +20
CNN	196	159	183	-

Even Karl Rove has Obama winning the election outright, with tossup states included.

Projections Shift More Towards Obama

Nevada finishes paperwork to officially nominate Ron Paul at Convention!

Submitted by davegod75 on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 21:23
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Nevada

I was reading a thread on another forum from a Nevada delegate and he said he was the 15th signature on the nominating form. (15 = plurality)

This is big news right>
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Sign the Petition to get Ron Paul's Maine Delegates seated at the GOP Convention

Submitted by GingerTaylor on Mon, 08/06/2012 - 23:26
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As you may have heard today, Jan Staples---the Maine Republican National Committeewoman who was defeated for re-election at the 2012 Maine Republican Convention---is striking back.

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO HAVE OUR STATE DELEGATES SEATED AT THE NATIONAL GOP CONVENTION---> defenseoflibertypac.com/petition

After her loss at the Maine Republican Convention last May, Jan Staples (along with Peter Cianchette, Chairman of the Maine Mitt Romney Campaign), is now spearheading an effort to unseat the National Delegates who were rightfully elected at that convention. These National Delegates were voted on and properly elected by a majority of the State Republican Delegation. Now, Jan Staples is attempting to undo the democratic process we all participated in during last May's Convention.

Jan Staples' attack on the Maine Delegation comes just as we are preparing to fly down to Tampa to represent Maine in less than one month. With hotels booked and flights paid for, this attack hits the 40 elected Ron Paul Delegates and Alternates who have scrimped and saved since May in order to fulfill their elected responsibility of representing Maine in Tampa.

Jan Staples often speaks highly about the need for unity in the Maine Republican Party. Her actions, however, work to fracture and divide us by alienating those Republicans with whom she disagrees.

I agree that party unity is important. We have a sitting Republican Governor who has done more to cut and limit government than any resident of the Blaine House in recent memory. It is vital that we support him with constitutional conservative Republican majorities in the Maine State House and State Senate this November.

While Jan Staples espouses these same ideals, her actions do not demonstrate that party unity is among her priorities.

Sign the Petition to Support the Maine Delegation
The good news is that Jan Staples and Peter Cianchette appear to be acting alone and without support from Maine GOP leadership.

In the aftermath of the Maine State Convention, Maine Party Chairman Charlie Webster declared his support for the right of the Maine delegation to be seated at the Republican National Convention: "The way I look at this, an election was held. We're going to fight to get our delegates seated in Tampa, that's our position. That's what we're ready to do."

Rick Bennett, the outgoing Maine National Committeeman, echoed this sentiment, stating last May that he would "fight tooth and nail" to ensure that Maine's delegates are seated at the national convention.

Adding to this is Governor Paul LePage's voice. In a statement released today, the Governor's office declared: "Governor Paul LePage stands behind Maine Republican National Committeeman Rick Bennett's position that all Maine Delegates should be seated at the Republican National Convention."

Despite efforts to divide us, we remain united.

Despite attempts to attack us, we remain strong.

We will represent Maine.

We will march to Tampa.

We will vote for Ron Paul.

For Liberty,
Eric Brakey

Maine National Delegate

P.S. Would you like to check out the documents for youself? Here they are:

• Notice of Contest against the National Delegates Elected from Congressional Districts 1 and 2.

• Notice of Contest against the At-Large National Delegates Elected by the Entire State Delegation.

(Special thanks to National Delegate Brian Daugherty for making these documents available on-line.)

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THE SOCIALIST BEHIND ROMNEYCARE

By Cliff Kincaid
August 7, 2012
NewsWithViews.com

A new report from researcher Trevor Loudon names one of the main architects of Romneycare in Massachusetts as a member of an international socialist movement. John E. McDonough, a former Ted Kennedy staffer who also played a significant role in passing Obamacare, is identified by Loudon as a former chair of the Boston chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a pro-Marxist group that is affiliated with the Socialist International.

McDonough is now a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health.

Loudon is the blogger from New Zealand who broke the stories of Frank Marshall Davis being Obama’s communist mentor, and Van Jones having a communist background after his appointment as Obama’s “Green Jobs Czar.”

Loudon’s new report, which is potentially embarrassing to Mitt Romney as he tries to prove his conservative credentials, is headlined, “How DSA Marxists Influenced Health Policies for Both Major Presidential Candidates.”

McDonough acknowledged to AIM, “…between the late 1970s and the early 1980s, I was a member of (first), the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee, and then Democratic Socialists of America as it became in the early 1980s. I left the group in 1982 or 1983. I also served as chair of the Boston chapter for a couple of years.”

In his book, Inside National Health Reform, McDonough writes, “…I participated in the conception, birth, infancy, and toddlerhood of the Massachusetts health reform program, which became law in 2006 with the support of the Republican governor, Mitt Romney…”

“More than any of us imagined at the time,” he went on, “Massachusetts reform became an essential template for federal reform.”

His current bio notes that he “played a key role in passage and implementation of the 2006 Massachusetts health reform law” and highlights his academic credentials but makes no mention of his involvement in socialist groups.

Although McDonough told AIM that he left the DSA in the early 1980s, Loudon cites a 2005 issue of “The Yankee Radical,” the newsletter of the DSA chapter in Boston, highlighting McDonough as one of several speakers at a DSA event in that year. It refers to McDonough as a former chair of Boston DSA and advocate of universal health care.

An Obama campaign video, released on the six-year anniversary of Romneycare, identifies McDonough as one of the architects of both the Romney and Obama plans. “I helped craft and pass Massachusetts health reform in 2006 and the Affordable Care Act in 2010,” McDonough says in the video. It makes no mention of his DSA affiliation.

The video was designed to make Romney look foolish for campaigning to repeal a national program modeled after the state plan he signed when he was governor of Massachusetts.

In what is a first for Trevor Loudon, a strong critic of Obama, he posted the Obama campaign video as incriminating evidence of McDonough’s role in both the Obama and Romney health care plans. “I can’t dispute the facts,” Loudon says. “All I’ve added is that he happens to have been a DSA member.”

But that affiliation is a blockbuster. DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. A recent issue of the Boston DSA newsletter hailed the victory of the socialists in France.

In an article in the Spring 2007 issue of DSA’s Democratic Left, National Political Committee member David Green wrote, “Our goal as socialists is to abolish private ownership of the means of production.”

Back in 2008 AIM reported extensively on Obama’s own ties to the DSA. And he has not cut those ties. As president, he recently gave a Medal of Freedom to Dolores Huerta, the honorary chair of DSA.

McDonough’s role in Romneycare is not disputed. “As director of the advocacy group Health Care for All, he played a key role in the 2006 Massachusetts health reform law…” noted CommonWealth magazine.

Grace-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute and a co-author of Why ObamaCare Is Wrong for America, agrees that there is no question McDonough played a significant role in the Massachusetts plan.

But Cindy Gillespie, a trusted Romney aide who led his health care reform effort, says Romney had nothing to do with him. She told us that she would have no comment on McDonough’s socialist credentials because he “was not part of Governor Romney’s health care team nor was he ever an advisor to the governor during Massachusetts health care reform.”

It would seem that she was someone in a position to know. Her bio notes that she “served as counselor to former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney” and “played a leading role in the development of Massachusetts health insurance reform.”

But her denial only confirms that McDonough exercised his influence through his running of Health Care for All, a liberal or “progressive” organization based in Massachusetts, and connections to Massachusetts Democratic politicians who played a role in shaping the legislation. This included Senator Ted Kennedy, who would later hire McDonough as a “senior advisor” for “national health reform” in 2008, setting the stage for Obamacare.

Kennedy stood by Romney’s side when he signed the legislation in April 2006 and was labeled Romney’s “health care partner” by the media at the time. Romney called Kennedy “my collaborator and friend” and a “parent” of the bill.

Grace-Marie Turner says, “It seems to me the bigger story is that McDonough used his work in Massachusetts as a springboard to Washington where he did have a major role in coordinating the development of the legislation that became Obamacare.”

Until the publication of Loudon’s report, however, McDonough had a reputation as a serious academic and policy analyst. His involvement in the Democratic Socialists of America, a far-left organization which openly and approvingly quotes Karl Marx, puts Obamacare into the context of socialist plans to remake the U.S. economy and reduce the influence of the private sector.

Loudon, who specializes in drawing attention to Marxist infiltration of government and society, doesn’t pull any punches, calling McDonough a “leading Marxist health academic.”

The controversial nature of DSA, however, goes beyond promoting socialism to working with America’s enemies. DSA member Kurt Stand went to prison for conspiracy to commit espionage on behalf of East Germany and the Soviet Union. Stand had been a left-wing labor activist who had helped fellow DSA member John Sweeney depose Lane Kirkland as head of the AFL-CIO.

Like many socialists, who prefer the label “progressive,” McDonough told AIM that “I have never described myself as a Marxist or even a Socialist,” but that he was and still is “a social democrat in the progressive tradition.”

He said he was drawn to DSOC/DSA “because of its national chairman, Michael Harrington, as well as some dynamic and smart folks in the Boston chapter.” Harrington wrote several books, including The Other America and Socialism: Past and Future.

Harrington’s socialist vision is said to have helped spark President Lyndon Johnson’s “war on poverty,” which has cost trillions of dollars and greatly expanded the power of the federal government in the economy. Harrington would later call President Ronald Reagan’s conservative policies “insane and cruel.”

While McDonough eschews the Marxist label, the DSA website quotes Karl Marx in arguing for social change. Joe Schwartz of DSA argues that Michael Harrington “was incredibly good at giving an accessible version of Marx’s critique of capitalism...” and that Harrington worked to “popularize” Marxist theory and “to resurrect Marx from the dustbin of authoritarianism…”

Since his time in DSOC/DSA, McDonough wanted us to know that he had become a respected political leader and academic: “I have served as a respected member and leader in the Massachusetts House of Representatives (1985-97), associate professor at the Heller School at Brandeis, executive director at Health Care for All—Massachusetts’ leading consumer health advocacy organization, health policy adviser to Senator Edward Kennedy (2008-2010), visiting fellow at Hunter College in NYC, and currently Professor of Public Health Practice at the Harvard School of Public Health.”

He added, “In 1990 I earned a Masters in Public Administration from the JFK School at Harvard, and in 1996 I earned a doctorate in public health from the University of Michigan's School of Public Health. I have written three books on U.S. health policy issues, and lots of peer reviewed articles.”

McDonough says that although he was “deeply involved” in the health care legislation passed in Massachusetts and on the national level, both Romney and Obama “would say they had zero contact with me, for different reasons.” He explained, “As a progressive health leader in Massachusetts, I helped push Massachusetts health reform in a much more progressive direction than Romney wanted. As part of a large army of U.S. Senate staffers, I never got into the same room as the President—many others outranked me.”

Still, the Obama campaign wanted the world to know, through that video, that McDonough had played a role in passing Obama’s “Affordable Care Act.”

While blowing the whistle on McDonough being a socialist who played a significant role in Romneycare and Obamacare, Loudon doesn’t blame Romney entirely for the passage of the state legislation.

“It came through the Massachusetts legislature,” Loudon said of Romneycare. “It’s full of DSA members and supporters. Romney wanted some reform and tried to do it through a conservative approach and it ended up being a compromise. The DSA won and Romney took credit for it.”

Grace-Marie Turner believes that Romney had a vision for market-based reform and vetoed the worst “collectivist” aspects of the legislation in Massachusetts. She told us that he “pushed back” against “some of the more egregious parts” of the legislation, such as major new bureaucracies and the employer mandate, and he wanted to give people a way out of the individual mandate.
Loudon said he would like to believe that Romney is for repealing Obamacare. But if he is elected—and that is a big “if,” since Loudon thinks Romney is running an ineffective campaign against Obama—“Obamacare will be replaced with something else,” Loudon noted. “And that is where the devil is in the details—a free market approach or watered down Obamacare?”
© 2012 Cliff Kincaid - All Rights Reserved


Cliff Kincaid, a veteran journalist and media critic, Cliff concentrated in journalism and communications at the University of Toledo, where he graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree.
Cliff has written or co-authored nine books on media and cultural affairs and foreign policy issues. One of Cliff's books, "Global Bondage: The UN Plan to Rule the World" is still awailable.
Cliff has appeared on Hannity & Colmes, The O’Reilly Factor, Crossfire and has been published in the Washington Post, Washington Times, Chronicles, Human Events and Insight.
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