Thread: WARNING: Illegal aliens are beating us all in DC today!

Kosmas, Suzanne (Rep. - 24th) D - FL
Tel: 202-225-2706 Port Orange, FL 32129 VM-Full
C-DO: Port Orange, FL 32129 Phone: 386-756-9798 ... Doesn't know!

Gordon, Bart (Rep. - 06th) D - TN
202-225-4231 Gallatin TN 37066 615-451-5174 Doesn't know!

C+ Visclosky, Peter (Rep. - 01st) D - IN
DC 202-225-2461 Merrillville, IN 46410 Phone: 219-795-1844
Doesn't know!


Kagen, M.D., Steven (Rep. - 08th) D - WI
DC 202-225-5665 VM-Full DO: Green Bay, WI 54301 (920) 437-1954
Doesn't know!


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Arcuri, Michael A. (Rep. - 24th) D - NY (L) (leaving)
DC Phone: 202-225-3665 ... DO- Utica, NY 13501 Ph: (315)793-8146
Doesn't know!
By the way... stated they were getting calls... asked how it was going on the tally For and Against? She stateD she would say more calls were for passing the Dream Act. KEEP CALLING!


Space, Zack T. (Rep. - 18th) D - OH
Telephone: 202-225-6265 ... VM- left msg. Dover, Ohio 44622
TOLL FREE: 1-866-910-7577 or: (330) 364-4300 ...

Stupak, Bart (Rep. - 01st) D - MI (L)
Telephone 202-225-4735 Alpena, MI 49707 (989) 356 0690
Doesn't know! Ask about calls... says there has been a healthy balance!
Ha KEEP CALLING!

Adler, John (Rep. - 03rd) D - NJ
Phone: (202) 225-4765 Toms River, NJ 08753-7468 Phone: (732) 608-7235 ... both lines are continually busy

Bishop, Timothy (Rep. - 01st) D - NY
Tel: 202-225-3826 Coram, NY 11727 Phone: (631) 696-6500
Doesn't know!

Boccieri, John (Rep. - 16th) D - OH
Telephone: 202-225-3876 Ext. not valid! Canton, OH 44702
Phone: 330-489-4414 Fax: 330-489-4448 Albany, OH 45710
Doesn't know!


Boswell, Leonard (Rep. - 03rd) D - IA
Tel: 202-225-3806 Des Moines, IA 50309 Phone: 515-282-1909
Toll Free: 888-432-1984 ...
Doesn't know!

Carnahan, Russ (Rep. - 03rd) D - MO
Telephone 202-225-2671 St. Louis, MO 63144 Phone: (314) 962-1523
Doesn't know!

Connolly, Gerry (Rep. - 11th) D - VA
Phone: (202) 225-1492 Annandale, VA 22003 Phone: (703) 256-3071
Doesn't know!

most of them that I called said they don't know.

The ones that others have posted stating that they get more "for" the dream act than "against" are mostly illegals that are making the calls and really shouldn't even be taken into consideration since this is not their Government.

The US citizens that are for it are probably for the most part either ignorant to the consequences this bill will bring or are mexicans them self looking for a way to get citizenship for their sis or bro.

In the end, it shouldn't be decided by how many phone calls emails or letters that cannot be confirmed or determined for fact that the people are citizens or illegals or if they are even in this country at all. It should be confirmed by some like a social security number confirmation to better determine the validity vote or request is from a legitimate citizen.

You would think that with all the cutting edge technology we have in the world that the super power government would have come up with a better way by now to determine peoples status or validity of their identity.

We can send probes to far away planets and determine different chemicals and tiny little atoms and metals on distant planets, but it is a mystery and we cannot determine who is legal or illegal in this country right under our own noses. Is this fantastically deliberate or a contingency that the government feels is not important.

There is an idea, instead of spending billions of dollars hosting worthless illegal alien pond scum from Mexico, why not cut the illegal alien program and send the money to NASA for exploration of alien life on other planets. We already know what kind of life form is sustained from Mexico - pond scum.

A better idea, instead of spending billions on housing and healthcare and welfare for these illegals, kill two birds with one stone and send the illegals Mars and Jupiter and see if those planets can sustain life. It will deal with the illegal alien issues and help scientist research, so we can get something in return for our tax dollars.

Cooper, Jim (Rep. - 05th) D - TN
202-225-4311 202-226-1035 Cooper, Jim (Rep. - 05th) D - TN
Nashville, TN 37219 Phone: 615-736-5295
Doesn't know!


Costello, Jerry (Rep. - 12th) D - IL
Tel: 202-225-5661 BELLEVILLE, IL 62221
Doesn't know!

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Driehaus, Steven (Rep. - 01st) D - OH
Telephone: 202-225-2216 VM-Full
Cincinnati, OH 45202 Phone: (513) 684-2723
Doesn't know!


Etheridge, Bob (Rep. - 02nd) D - NC VOTING YES ON DREAM ACT
Telephone 202-225-4531 Clayton, NC 27520 Raleigh, NC 27610
VM-OPEN!

Foster, Bill (Rep. - 14th) D - IL
DC (202) 225-2976 VM- Full
Toll Free: (866) 777-6670 Fax: (202) 225-0697
DIXON, IL 61021 Phone: 815-288-0680 n/ansr
Batavia, IL 60510 Phone: 630-406-1114 ... Left msg. Dosen't know!

Hall, John (Rep. - 19th) D - NY
DC Phone: 202-225-5441 VM-Full
Carmel, New York 10512
Phone: (845) 808-1157 Left msg. OPEN!

Halvorson, Debbie (Rep. - 11th) D - IL
DC (202) 225-3635 VM- Full
Joliet, IL 60435 Phone: 815-726-4998

Himes, Jim (Rep. - 04th) D - CT
Tel: 202-225-5541 Bridgeport, CT 06604 Phone: 866-453-0028
Has recently decided to CO-SPONSOR the Dream Act!

GO VOTE IN THE POLL !!!

Is There a Last Gasp for Immigration Reform?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html

What do you Think?
Should Congress Pass the DREAM Act?

* Yes -- it's not comprehensive immigration reform, but it's a start.
67%
* No -- it's amnesty for people who are breaking the law.
33%
* Don't know/not sure.
0%

Hodes, Paul (Rep. - 02nd) D - NH
DC 202) 225-5206 VM-Full
Keene, NH 03431 Phone: 603-358-1023 VM- OPEN! left msg.

Kildee, Dale (Rep. - 05th) D - MI
DC 202-225-3611 Saginaw, MI 48607-1370 Phone: 989-755-8904
Doesn't know!

Kilroy, Mary Jo (Rep. - 15th) D - OH
Telephone: 202-225-2015 VM-OPEN! left msg.
Columbus, OH 43212 Phone: 614-294-2196 VM-OPEN! left msg.

Kirkpatrick, Ann (Rep. - 01st) D - AZ
Phone: (202) 225-2315 VM-Full
Prescott, AZ 86303 Phone: 928-445-3434 VM-OPEN! Left msg.

Larson, John (Rep. - 01st) D - CT
Tel: 202-225-2265 VM-Full
Hartford, CT 06106 Phone: 860-278-8888
Supports the Dream Act!

Lipinski, Daniel (Rep. - 03rd) D - IL DC 202-225-5701 ... VM-OPEN!
Oak Lawn, IL 60453 Phone: 708-424-0853 ... VM-OPEN!
Left msg.'s at both.

Name on DREAM Act Party State
Akaka, Daniel Kahikina Yea Democrat Hawaii
Alexander, Lamar Nay Republican Tennessee
Barrasso, John A. Nay Republican Wyoming
Baucus, Max S. Likely Nay Democrat Montana
Bayh, Evan Yea Democrat Indiana
Begich, Mark Yea Democrat Alaska
Bennet, Michael F. Yea Democrat Colorado
Bennett, Robert F. Yea Republican Utah
Bingaman, Jeff Yea Democrat New Mexico
Bond, Christopher S. Nay Republican Missouri
Boxer, Barbara Yea Democrat California
Brown, Sherrod Yea Democrat Ohio
Brown, Scott Likely Nay Republican Massachusetts
Brownback, Samuel D. On the Fence Republican Kansas
Bunning, Jim Nay Republican Kentucky
Burr, Richard M. Nay Republican North Carolina
Burris, Roland Nay Democrat Illinois
Cantwell, Maria Yea Democrat Washington
Cardin, Benjamin L. Yea Democrat Maryland
Carper, Thomas Richard Yea Democrat Delaware
Casey, Robert P. Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
Chambliss, Saxby Nay Republican Georgia
Coburn, Thomas A. Nay Republican Oklahoma
Cochran, Thad Nay Republican Mississippi
Collins, Susan M. On the Fence Republican Maine
Conrad, Kent Kent Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
Corker, Bob Nay Republican Tennessee
Cornyn, John Nay Republican Texas
Crapo, Michael D. Nay Republican Idaho
DeMint, Jim W. Nay Republican South Carolina
Dodd, Christopher J. Yea Democrat Connecticut
Dorgan, Byron L. Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
Durbin, Richard J. Yea Democrat Illinois
Ensign, John Eric Unclear Republican Nevada
Enzi, Michael B. Nay Republican Wyoming
Feingold, Russell D. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
Feinstein, Dianne Yea Democrat California
Franken, Al Yea Democrat Minnesota
Gillibrand, Kirsten E. Yea Democrat New York
Goodwin, Carte P. Unclear Democrat West Virginia
Graham, Lindsey O. Nay Republican South Carolina
Grassley, Charles E. Nay Republican Iowa
Gregg, Judd A. Nay Republican New Hampshire
Hagan, Kay Likely Nay Democrat North Carolina
Harkin, Thomas Yea Democrat Iowa
Hatch, Orrin G. Likely Nay Republican Utah
Hutchison, Kay Bailey Likely Nay Republican Texas
Inhofe, James M. Nay Republican Oklahoma
Inouye, Daniel K. Yea Democrat Hawaii
Isakson, John H. Nay Republican Georgia
Johanns, Mike Nay Republican Nebraska
Johnson, Tim P. Yea Democrat South Dakota
Kaufman, Edward E. Yea Democrat Delaware
Kerry, John Forbes Yea Democrat Massachusetts
Klobuchar, Amy Yea Democrat Minnesota
Kohl, Herbert H. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
Kyl, Jon Nay Republican Arizona
Landrieu, Mary L. Yea Democrat Louisiana
Lautenberg, Frank R. Yea Democrat New Jersey
Leahy, Patrick J. Yea Democrat Vermont
LeMieux, George S. Likely Nay Republican Florida
Levin, Carl Yea Democrat Michigan
Lieberman, Joseph I. Yea Independent Connecticut
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert Yea Democrat Arkansas
Lugar, Richard G. On the Fence Republican Indiana
McCain, John S. On the Fence Republican Arizona
McCaskill, Claire Yea Democrat Missouri
McConnell, Mitch Nay Republican Kentucky
Menéndez, Robert Yea Democrat New Jersey
Merkley, Jeff Yea Democrat Oregon
Mikulski, Barbara A. Yea Democrat Maryland
Murkowski, Lisa A. Yea Republican Alaska
Murray, Patty Yea Democrat Washington
Nelson, Ben E. Nay Democrat Nebraska
Nelson, Bill Yea Democrat Florida
Pryor, Mark Nay Democrat Arkansas
Reed, John F. Yea Democrat Rhode Island
Reid, Harry M. Yea Democrat Nevada
Risch, James Nay Republican Idaho
Roberts, Pat Nay Republican Kansas
Rockefeller, John D. Yea Democrat West Virginia
Sanders, Bernard Yea Independent Vermont
Schumer, Charles E. Yea Democrat New York
Sessions, Jefferson B. Nay Republican Alabama
Shaheen, Jeanne Yea Democrat New Hampshire
Shelby, Richard C. Nay Republican Alabama
Snowe, Olympia J. On the Fence Republican Maine
Specter, Arlen Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
Stabenow, Debbie Ann Yea Democrat Michigan
Tester, Jon Likely Nay Democrat Montana
Thune, John Nay Republican South Dakota
Udall, Mark E. Yea Democrat Colorado
Udall, Tom S. Yea Democrat New Mexico
Vitter, David Nay Republican Louisiana
Voinovich, George V. On the Fence Republican Ohio
Warner, Mark Yea Democrat Virginia
Webb, Jim Yea Democrat Virginia
Whitehouse, Sheldon Yea Democrat Rhode Island
Wicker, Roger F. Nay Republican Mississippi
Wyden, Ron Yea Democrat Oregon

Name on DREAM Act Party State
Akaka, Daniel Kahikina Yea Democrat Hawaii
Alexander, Lamar Nay Republican Tennessee
Barrasso, John A. Nay Republican Wyoming
Baucus, Max S. Likely Nay Democrat Montana
Bayh, Evan Yea Democrat Indiana
Begich, Mark Yea Democrat Alaska
Bennet, Michael F. Yea Democrat Colorado
Bennett, Robert F. Yea Republican Utah
Bingaman, Jeff Yea Democrat New Mexico
Bond, Christopher S. Nay Republican Missouri
Boxer, Barbara Yea Democrat California
Brown, Sherrod Yea Democrat Ohio
Brown, Scott Likely Nay Republican Massachusetts
Brownback, Samuel D. On the Fence Republican Kansas
Bunning, Jim Nay Republican Kentucky
Burr, Richard M. Nay Republican North Carolina
Burris, Roland Nay Democrat Illinois
Cantwell, Maria Yea Democrat Washington
Cardin, Benjamin L. Yea Democrat Maryland
Carper, Thomas Richard Yea Democrat Delaware
Casey, Robert P. Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
Chambliss, Saxby Nay Republican Georgia
Coburn, Thomas A. Nay Republican Oklahoma
Cochran, Thad Nay Republican Mississippi
Collins, Susan M. On the Fence Republican Maine
Conrad, Kent Kent Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
Corker, Bob Nay Republican Tennessee
Cornyn, John Nay Republican Texas
Crapo, Michael D. Nay Republican Idaho
DeMint, Jim W. Nay Republican South Carolina
Dodd, Christopher J. Yea Democrat Connecticut
Dorgan, Byron L. Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
Durbin, Richard J. Yea Democrat Illinois
Ensign, John Eric Unclear Republican Nevada
Enzi, Michael B. Nay Republican Wyoming
Feingold, Russell D. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
Feinstein, Dianne Yea Democrat California
Franken, Al Yea Democrat Minnesota
Gillibrand, Kirsten E. Yea Democrat New York
Goodwin, Carte P. Unclear Democrat West Virginia
Graham, Lindsey O. Nay Republican South Carolina
Grassley, Charles E. Nay Republican Iowa
Gregg, Judd A. Nay Republican New Hampshire
Hagan, Kay Likely Nay Democrat North Carolina
Harkin, Thomas Yea Democrat Iowa
Hatch, Orrin G. Likely Nay Republican Utah
Hutchison, Kay Bailey Likely Nay Republican Texas
Inhofe, James M. Nay Republican Oklahoma
Inouye, Daniel K. Yea Democrat Hawaii
Isakson, John H. Nay Republican Georgia
Johanns, Mike Nay Republican Nebraska
Johnson, Tim P. Yea Democrat South Dakota
Kaufman, Edward E. Yea Democrat Delaware
Kerry, John Forbes Yea Democrat Massachusetts
Klobuchar, Amy Yea Democrat Minnesota
Kohl, Herbert H. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
Kyl, Jon Nay Republican Arizona
Landrieu, Mary L. Yea Democrat Louisiana
Lautenberg, Frank R. Yea Democrat New Jersey
Leahy, Patrick J. Yea Democrat Vermont
LeMieux, George S. Likely Nay Republican Florida
Levin, Carl Yea Democrat Michigan
Lieberman, Joseph I. Yea Independent Connecticut
Lincoln, Blanche Lambert Yea Democrat Arkansas
Lugar, Richard G. On the Fence Republican Indiana
McCain, John S. On the Fence Republican Arizona
McCaskill, Claire Yea Democrat Missouri
McConnell, Mitch Nay Republican Kentucky
Menéndez, Robert Yea Democrat New Jersey
Merkley, Jeff Yea Democrat Oregon
Mikulski, Barbara A. Yea Democrat Maryland
Murkowski, Lisa A. Yea Republican Alaska
Murray, Patty Yea Democrat Washington
Nelson, Ben E. Nay Democrat Nebraska
Nelson, Bill Yea Democrat Florida
Pryor, Mark Nay Democrat Arkansas
Reed, John F. Yea Democrat Rhode Island
Reid, Harry M. Yea Democrat Nevada
Risch, James Nay Republican Idaho
Roberts, Pat Nay Republican Kansas
Rockefeller, John D. Yea Democrat West Virginia
Sanders, Bernard Yea Independent Vermont
Schumer, Charles E. Yea Democrat New York
Sessions, Jefferson B. Nay Republican Alabama
Shaheen, Jeanne Yea Democrat New Hampshire
Shelby, Richard C. Nay Republican Alabama
Snowe, Olympia J. On the Fence Republican Maine
Specter, Arlen Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
Stabenow, Debbie Ann Yea Democrat Michigan
Tester, Jon Likely Nay Democrat Montana
Thune, John Nay Republican South Dakota
Udall, Mark E. Yea Democrat Colorado
Udall, Tom S. Yea Democrat New Mexico
Vitter, David Nay Republican Louisiana
Voinovich, George V. On the Fence Republican Ohio
Warner, Mark Yea Democrat Virginia
Webb, Jim Yea Democrat Virginia
Whitehouse, Sheldon Yea Democrat Rhode Island
Wicker, Roger F. Nay Republican Mississippi
Wyden, Ron Yea Democrat Oregon

Please look at this page!
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-220425.html
Sure seems funny to me that open border supporters are beating us in calls since we all speak english, and the cbs poll I think is the NObama media at work again!

Originally Posted by stevetheroofer

Please look at this page!
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-220425.html
Sure seems funny to me that open border supporters are beating us in calls since we all speak english, and the cbs poll I think is the NObama media at work again!

I BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE NAMELY ILLEGAL ALIENS WERE VOTING TWICE IN THAT POLL. WE CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS NIGHTMARE WILL NOT PASS. ITS HIGH TIME THAT THESE FIGURE HEADS IN WASHINGTON KNOW WHERE THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER IS COMING FROM AND ITS NOT COMING FROM THOSE WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE SENDING THEIR MONEY HOME, MAKING MEXICO'S ECONOMY ROBUST WHILE THEY ARE LIVING OFF OF THE TAXPAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS GOVERNMENT IS VERY SHAMEFUL.

Name on DREAM Act Party State

Y Akaka, Daniel Kahikina Yea Democrat Hawaii
N Alexander, Lamar Nay Republican Tennessee
N Barrasso, John A. Nay Republican Wyoming
N Baucus, Max S. Likely Nay Democrat Montana
Y Bayh, Evan Yea Democrat Indiana
Y Begich, Mark Yea Democrat Alaska
Y Bennet, Michael F. Yea Democrat Colorado
Y Bennett, Robert F. Yea Republican Utah
Y Bingaman, Jeff Yea Democrat New Mexico
N Bond, Christopher S. Nay Republican Missouri
Y Boxer, Barbara Yea Democrat California
Y Brown, Sherrod Yea Democrat Ohio
N Brown, Scott Likely Nay Republican Massachusetts
U Brownback, Samuel D. On the Fence Republican Kansas
N Bunning, Jim Nay Republican Kentucky
N Burr, Richard M. Nay Republican North Carolina
N Burris, Roland Nay Democrat Illinois
Y Cantwell, Maria Yea Democrat Washington
Y Cardin, Benjamin L. Yea Democrat Maryland
Y Carper, Thomas Richard Yea Democrat Delaware
Y Casey, Robert P. Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
N Chambliss, Saxby Nay Republican Georgia
N Coburn, Thomas A. Nay Republican Oklahoma
N Cochran, Thad Nay Republican Mississippi
U Collins, Susan M. On the Fence Republican Maine
N Conrad, Kent Kent Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
N Corker, Bob Nay Republican Tennessee
N Cornyn, John Nay Republican Texas
N Crapo, Michael D. Nay Republican Idaho
N DeMint, Jim W. Nay Republican South Carolina
Y Dodd, Christopher J. Yea Democrat Connecticut
N Dorgan, Byron L. Likely Nay Democrat North Dakota
Y Durbin, Richard J. Yea Democrat Illinois
U Ensign, John Eric Unclear Republican Nevada
N Enzi, Michael B. Nay Republican Wyoming
Y Feingold, Russell D. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
Y Feinstein, Dianne Yea Democrat California
Y Franken, Al Yea Democrat Minnesota
Y Gillibrand, Kirsten E. Yea Democrat New York
U Goodwin, Carte P. Unclear Democrat West Virginia
N Graham, Lindsey O. Nay Republican South Carolina
N Grassley, Charles E. Nay Republican Iowa
N Gregg, Judd A. Nay Republican New Hampshire
N Hagan, Kay Likely Nay Democrat North Carolina
Y Harkin, Thomas Yea Democrat Iowa
N Hatch, Orrin G. Likely Nay Republican Utah
N Hutchison, Kay Bailey Likely Nay Republican Texas
N Inhofe, James M. Nay Republican Oklahoma
Y Inouye, Daniel K. Yea Democrat Hawaii
N Isakson, John H. Nay Republican Georgia
N Johanns, Mike Nay Republican Nebraska
Y Johnson, Tim P. Yea Democrat South Dakota
Y Kaufman, Edward E. Yea Democrat Delaware
Y Kerry, John Forbes Yea Democrat Massachusetts
Y Klobuchar, Amy Yea Democrat Minnesota
Y Kohl, Herbert H. Yea Democrat Wisconsin
N Kyl, Jon Nay Republican Arizona
Y Landrieu, Mary L. Yea Democrat Louisiana
Y Lautenberg, Frank R. Yea Democrat New Jersey
Y Leahy, Patrick J. Yea Democrat Vermont
N LeMieux, George S. Likely Nay Republican Florida
Y Levin, Carl Yea Democrat Michigan
Y Lieberman, Joseph I. Yea Independent Connecticut
Y Lincoln, Blanche Lambert Yea Democrat Arkansas
U Lugar, Richard G. On the Fence Republican Indiana
U McCain, John S. On the Fence Republican Arizona
Y McCaskill, Claire Yea Democrat Missouri
N McConnell, Mitch Nay Republican Kentucky
Y Menéndez, Robert Yea Democrat New Jersey
Y Merkley, Jeff Yea Democrat Oregon
Y Mikulski, Barbara A. Yea Democrat Maryland
Y Murkowski, Lisa A. Yea Republican Alaska
Y Murray, Patty Yea Democrat Washington
N Nelson, Ben E. Nay Democrat Nebraska
Y Nelson, Bill Yea Democrat Florida
N Pryor, Mark Nay Democrat Arkansas
Y Reed, John F. Yea Democrat Rhode Island
Y Reid, Harry M. Yea Democrat Nevada
N Risch, James Nay Republican Idaho
N Roberts, Pat Nay Republican Kansas
Y Rockefeller, John D. Yea Democrat West Virginia
Y Sanders, Bernard Yea Independent Vermont
Y Schumer, Charles E. Yea Democrat New York
N Sessions, Jefferson B. Nay Republican Alabama
Y Shaheen, Jeanne Yea Democrat New Hampshire
N Shelby, Richard C. Nay Republican Alabama
U Snowe, Olympia J. On the Fence Republican Maine
Y Specter, Arlen Yea Democrat Pennsylvania
Y Stabenow, Debbie Ann Yea Democrat Michigan
N Tester, Jon Likely Nay Democrat Montana
N Thune, John Nay Republican South Dakota
Y Udall, Mark E. Yea Democrat Colorado
Y Udall, Tom S. Yea Democrat New Mexico
N Vitter, David Nay Republican Louisiana
U Voinovich, George V. On the Fence Republican Ohio
Y Warner, Mark Yea Democrat Virginia
Y Webb, Jim Yea Democrat Virginia
Y Whitehouse, Sheldon Yea Democrat Rhode Island
N Wicker, Roger F. Nay Republican Mississippi
Y Wyden, Ron Yea Democrat Oregon
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N = 40
Y = 52
U = 8