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    To be honest, i wouldn't let the US Supreme Court decide even a traffic ticket right now. No amendment to the 14th is needed, it is quite clear to anyone with a brain. No citizenship to foreign Nationals having children on US Soil, children included, that's what the Jurisdiction clause was written for.
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    Mark Levin has challenged Bill OReilly to a debate on the 14th. OReilly's about to get a serious education, can't wait.
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    “Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject
    to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a
    citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons
    born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the
    families of ambassadors or foreign ministers
    accredited to the
    Government of the United States, but will include every other class of
    persons.
    (Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866)
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    Bill O’Reilly is full of crap regarding INS v. RIOS-PINEDA, (1985)

    Bill O’Reilly is also full of crap regarding INS v. RIOS-PINEDA, (1985)

    On a recent show (8/19/2015), Bill O’Reilly beat up on Andrea Tantaros and falsely suggested that INS v. RIOS-PINEDA, (1985) was to determine if a child born to an illegal alien while on American soil is a legal citizen.

    The truth is, the question being decided by the Supreme Court, in the case cited by Mr. O'Reilly was the Attorney General's discretionary power and had nothing to do with deciding whether or not a child born to an illegal alien while on American soil is a citizen upon birth. In other words, the case Bill O’Reilly cited has no bearing what-so-ever with regard to the question of whether or not a child born to an illegal alien while on American soil becomes a legal citizen upon birth.

    Keep in mind, "It is a maxim not to be disregarded that general expressions in every opinion are to be taken in connection with the case in which those expressions are used. If they go beyond the case, they may be respected, but ought not to control the judgment in a subsequent suit when the very point is presented for decision. The reason of this maxim is obvious. The question actually before the court is investigated with care, and considered in its full extent. Other principles which may serve to illustrate it are considered in their relation to the case decided, but their possible bearing on all other cases is seldom completely investigated."___ Chief Justice Marshal, Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. 6 Wheat. 264 264 (1821)


    I wonder if someone on FoxNews will bring this up and tell Bill O’Reilly to give Andrea Tantaros an apology for screaming at her and lying to her in order to pretend he was right!

    With all the documentation available from those who framed and helped to ratify the 14th Amendment which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is a qualifying phrase which excludes from birthright citizenship a child born on American soil to a mother who is a foreign national, one must wonder if the forces of evil are at work and the ultimate goal is to flood America with the poorly educated, poverty stricken, low skilled and in many cases the criminally inspired populations of other countries, which in turn will cause devastating social and financial consequences for American Citizens. Why on earth would any rational and patriotic American want to defend the anchor baby myth which is destroying our country from within?

    And what was one of our forefathers thinking with regard to who should be allowed to immigrate into our country? Let us recall what Representative BURKE says during our Nations` first debate on a RULE OF NATURALIZATION, FEB. 3RD, 1790

    Mr. BURKE thought it of importance to fill the country with useful men, such as farmers, mechanics, and manufacturers, and, therefore, would hold out every encouragement to them to emigrate to America. This class he would receive on liberal terms; and he was satisfied there would be room enough for them, and for their posterity, for five hundred years to come. There was another class of men, whom he did not think useful, and he did not care what impediments were thrown in their way; such as your European merchants, and factors of merchants, who come with a view of remaining so long as will enable them to acquire a fortune, and then they will leave the country, and carry off all their property with them. These people injure us more than they do us good, and, except in this last sentiment, I can compare them to nothing but leeches. They stick to us until they get their fill of our best blood, and then they fall off and leave us. I look upon the privilege of an American citizen to be an honorable one, and it ought not to be thrown away upon such people. There is another class also that I would interdict, that is, the convicts and criminals which they pour out of British jails. I wish sincerely some mode could be adopted to prevent the importation of such; but that, perhaps, is not in our power; the introduction of them ought to be considered as a high misdemeanor.


    So, as it turns out, allowing the kind of foreigners who are now invading our borders to stay here should be considered as a "high misdemeanor" which happens to be a criminal and impeachable offense! And to those who support and perpetuate the anchor baby myth which accelerates the introduction of other country's poverty and crime into America, they too ought to be viewed as committing a crime which is destructive to the general welfare of these United States.

    JWK






    To support Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!



    Last edited by johnwk; 08-22-2015 at 02:57 PM.

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