Thread: Trump: ‘I Want a Lot of People to Come In’ the Country

BY: David Rutz
January 6, 2016 6:14 pm

Republican frontrunner Donald Trump maintained he would build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants but said Wednesday he wants a “lot of people to come in” through legal channels during an interview with CNN.

Asked by Wolf Blitzer about fellow Republican 2016 hopeful Sen. Ted Cruz’s stance about not letting illegal immigrants back into the country once deported, Trump said he would want them back in if they’re “very good people.”

“I think you should let them come back,” Trump said. “If they’re very good people, you let them come back legally. I want people to come back. You know, I’m building a wall, but I want people to come in. I want immigrants to come in, but they have to come in legally. I want a lot of people to come in. I want to have really smart people, really good people, really hard workers come back in, but they have to come in legally, so I want people to come back into the country.”

Cruz has adopted a hardline stance on immigration and is now one of Trump’s strongest challengers for the GOP nomination, a race Trump has led since last summer. The Washington Post reports:

A number of Cruz’s positions on immigration have shifted in the past few years. Cruz, who bills himself as a “champion of legal immigration,” once supported doubling the caps on green cards and increasing the number of the visas for high tech workers – known as H1-B visas – fivefold. Cruz now wants new limits on legal immigration and to temporarily halt the H1-B program, which has been rife with reports of abuse. He introduced a bill to reform it this month.

As for the famous wall Trump has promised to build on the country’s southern border, Blitzer asked how long it would take to construct.

“Very quickly,” Trump said.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/trump-i...n-the-country/

I'm getting more and more concerned about Trump's position. I'm just not sure he is what I was hoping he was.

I have been a strong supporter of Trump and defended him against attacks by other conservatives but if he keeps talking this more and more crap he is going to loose me fast. The very core of trump political popularity is his perceived strong no nonsense opposition to the illegal alien invasion. If he keeps running his mouth about how he wants hoards of immigrants, legal or not, he is going to self destruct. What is the point of this nonsense by him?Nobody who wants open borders or amnesty is ever going to vote for him. WHAT THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS DOING? DONALD SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH BEFORE YOU HAVE A MASS EXODUS OF SUPPORTERS.

Originally Posted by csarbww

I have been a strong supporter of Trump and defended him against attacks by other conservatives but if he keeps talking this more and more crap he is going to loose me fast. The very core of trump political popularity is his perceived strong no nonsense opposition to the illegal alien invasion. If he keeps running his mouth about how he wants hoards of immigrants, legal or not, he is going to self destruct. What is the point of this nonsense by him?Nobody who wants open borders or amnesty is ever going to vote for him. WHAT THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS DOING? DONALD SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH BEFORE YOU HAVE A MASS EXODUS OF SUPPORTERS.

Just watch carefully what he's doing. He's setting Cruz up and Cruz has already taken the bait. You're watching a true Mastermind at work here. If you're worried about Trump, just go re-read his written immigration plan that was posted months and I mean months before Cruz's plan. Trump doesn't call for Cruz's "6 month" halt on H1Bs. Trump calls for a higher wage rate for H1B visas which shuts it down permanently. Trump calls for a "pause" on all green cards until Americans are back to work. Trump is the fair-minded reasonable leader and has set Cruz up as the hypocritical maniac with no judgment that flips and flops from wanting to legalize all illegal aliens with legal permanent residency but never having the right to become citizens to voting for TPA before he got mad at McConnell and voted against it out of spite, and blows and goes with the winds, but can't stop a bill, can't pass a bill, alienates and is hated by everyone in Congress, a grandstanding open borders free trade maniac, who shouldn't even be on the ballot to begin with because he's not eligible to hold the Office to begin with because he's not only got the "whiff of foreignness" quoting a MSM writer, who was born in Canada with Canadian citizenship and he's actually got foreign blood, Cuban no less with a father who fought for Castro, bribed his way into the US, then dodged out to Canada during the Vietnam War, and who held Canadian citizenship longer than his father, and only renounced his own less than 2 years ago claiming he didn't know he had it all because he wants to run for President!!

Just relax and watch what Trump is doing. What Trump is doing is unbelievable, something that has never happened in the US and won't again. People that are like Donald Trump rise to the occasion to save a nation only once. Either they win and save it or fall to defeat and we lose. And it won't be his loss by his hands or words, it will be by ours.

STAY TRUE!! STAY TRUMP!!

Hell Cruz can't even decide whether to be for Ethanol or not. First he was against it, now he's for it.

Cruz is a Disturbed Weaney, one of these foreign born foreign blood nuts who was told by his weirdo father he was destined for greatness since he was a kid. You can't grow up in that type of environment and come out right, and having a law degree like Obama from Harvard doesn't fix it, it makes it worse, it's why we have a natural born citizen clause in the US Constitution.

Ethanol Deal:

http://www.startribune.com/cruz-push...owa/364447891/

For example of what I'm talking about:

Trump's 'Strange New Respect' Moment

You saw it here first: The media is coming around to the mogul.

By Jack Shafer

1/08/2016

Having survived public thrashings from his political foes and the press for his policy proposals, his increasingly outrageous speeches, and his personality, Donald Trump now finds himself receiving strange new respect from unexpected corners.

If you’re not familiar with the “strange new respect” trope, a short primer. The American Spectator’s Tom Bethell introduced the concept in a 1992 article to ridicule the practice of liberal journalists who would reward conservative politicians who migrated from right to left by commenting in print on how they were now commanding “strange new respect” in Washington, showing “growth,” “maturity,” “wisdom,” and “thoughtfulness.” Bethell’s initial example was Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, who was appointed by conservative President Ronald Reagan but soon became a quasi-liberal, and was rewarded with praise by many in the liberal media. Kennedy has only continued to add to his strange new respect stockpile, the Weekly Standard commented in 2005.

Another steady recipient of strange new respect has been Sen. John McCain, in compensation for having parted with his right-wing Republican kin on so much—tax cuts, campaign finance law, immigration, stem-cell research, treatment of Al Qaeda prisoners, and so on, as the American Spectator complained in 2008. In 2014, Michael Kinsley busted the Washington Post for granting strange new respect to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who was in the process of rebranding himself by expressing newly found centrist views.

Over the years, the trope’s meaning has warped and expanded to include any shift by an establishment from disdain to approval, especially if the shift conforms to a particular herd’s sensibility. Last summer, in a piece about the press corps’ laudatory treatment of the pope, the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto asked if religion was now receiving strange new respect from the press. (No, he concluded.) In the fall, the Washington Post’s Dave Weigel explored the strange new Republican respect Jim Webb was getting for his failed run for the presidency as a Democrat.

As accolades go, the generous comments being directed at Trump aren’t grand, but you can feel them starting to gain momentum. Taken together they mark a slow swing from his status as a near-universal pariah to a devil with whom Republicans, at least, might be able to make a deal. In a Time cover story this week, David Von Drehle records top Republican Ed Rogers saying that “perhaps he wouldn’t be so bad” as president. Rick Scott, Florida’s Republican governor, commended Trump in a USA Today op-ed this week (“Donald Trump Has America’s Pulse”). Although Scott explicitly labeled his piece a non-endorsement, he extolled Trump as someone who has captured “the frustrations of many Americans after seven years” of Barack Obama’s presidency. He’s the sort of can-do guy who could trim the economic garden of burdensome regulations and taxes, Scott concluded.

Ben Carson’s former campaign manager, Barry Bennett, added a growth ring or two of respect to Trump this week by predicting he would win the nomination. Over the holidays, Republican strategist Curt Anderson extended backhanded respect to Trump in a piece he wrote for POLITICO by stating, “Trump is not the most self-absorbed Republican running for president—[Ted] Cruz is.” Anderson wrote, continuing: “Trump makes no effort to hide his narcissism. In that sense, Trump is oddly genuine.” Even Jeb Bush, who previously called Trump a “jerk,” just conceded at a New Hampshire campaign event that he admires the man’s rejection of political correctness.

Strange new respect has traditionally been dispensed to right-wingers as a doggie treat for having veered left. When politicians dole out strange new respect for a fellow politician, as Gov. Scott and Barry Bennett have, it’s always wise to check the paperwork to see if it was submitted in tandem with a job application. Sometimes it gets doled out to undeserving ex-presidents like Jimmy Carter or George W. Bush when a writer overpraises them for the one thing they didn’t totally screw up. Reagan, originally viewed as a servant of the military-industrial complex, ends up being reassessed as the prince of peace.

Other times, the dispensing of strange new respect is more about journalistic exhaustion than anything else. In the case of Trump, reporters who have written countless stories about Trump’s demagogic showboating eventually turn desperate to write something new rather than continue to work the exhausted vein. A reporter can hardly go wrong writing a strange new respect story, as they always command attention from readers and the competition.

Sometimes winning strange new respect is all about timing. Last September, the Washington Post’s Weigel filed a piece about all the unexpected liberal love Trump was winning from liberals like Jonathan Chait, Paul Krugman and Sen. Elizabeth Warren for his tax policies. Weigel, no stranger to the strange new respect trope, doesn’t use the phrase in his piece—perhaps because Trump was still a campaign novelty. If Trump had saved his tax talk for a later phase in the campaign, the commentariat would be shouting “strange new respect” at the top of their lungs.

As journalists and others begin to view as inevitable—or at least genuinely possible—a Trump victory at the Republican National Convention, we should expect a rise in Trump coverage that expresses strange new respect for him. A vestigial example of the genre appeared today in POLITICO. Titled “Donald Trump’s Big Tent,” the piece suggests Trump may be deserving of strange new respect because his “appeal has spread over seven months so far beyond a rabble-rousing, anti-establishment rump to encompass the very elements of the American electorate the GOP has been eager to reach.” Trump isn’t weird, the story implies. He’s the new normal.

Trump is growing. He’s maturing. If his numbers stay big and he does well in the early caucuses and primaries, you can anticipate a surplus of stories documenting his new wisdom and courage.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...#ixzz3wjWWQXsb

As the British parliament debates a petition whether or not to let Donald Trump into the country, one publication has handed him the US presidency - almost.

Time magazine's latest cover features a picture of Trump addressing a crowd, with the headline: "How Trump Won".

But this is quickly qualified with the explainer: "Now he just needs votes".

The article talks about his rise in the race for the White House, adding: "even the most mainstream Republicans are coming to grips with an idea they have resisted since last summer. This could be their nominee".

"Trump is a bonfire in a field of damp kindling - an overcrowded field of governors and former governors and junior Senators still trying to strike a spark".

Time says his nearest rival, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, has some traction in Iowa - but that he has "a long way to go to show that he can move masses".

The magazine says that forces within the party will continue to fight Trump to the bitter end, and that "the number of Americans who tell pollsters they would not vote for Trump is bigger".

But it also says the Republican party "is weak at the national level, deeply divided into hostile camps, while Trump has the strength of a technological epoch at his back".

One could wonder: How many trump cards does he have?

http://www.newstalk.com/Donald-Trump...-House-Britain

One could wonder: How many trump cards does he have?

A Full Deck.

Trump Could Win It All
A new survey shows a sizable number of Democrats ready to defect from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
The Associated Press

Trump's the one?
By James Warren
Jan. 8, 2016, at 4:00 p.m.

So if Donald Trump proved the political universe wrong and won the Republican presidential nomination, he would be creamed by Hillary Clinton, correct?

A new survey of likely voters might at least raise momentary dyspepsia for Democrats since it suggests why it wouldn't be a cakewalk.

The survey by Washington-based Mercury Analytics is a combination online questionnaire and "dial-test" of Trump's first big campaign ad among 916 self-proclaimed "likely voters" (this video shows the ad and the dial test results). It took place primarily Wednesday and Thursday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percent.

Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans.

When the firmed showed respondents the Trump ad, and assessed their responses to each moment of it, it found "the primary messages of Trump's ad resonated more than Democratic elites would hope."

About 25 percent of Democrats "agree completely" that it raises some good point, with an additional 19 percent agreeing at least "somewhat."

Mercury CEO Ron Howard, a Democrat whose firm works for candidates in both parties and corporate clients, concedes, "We expected Trump's first campaign spot to strongly appeal to Republican Trump supporters, with little impact – or in fact negative impact – on Democratic or independent voters."

He continues, "The challenge to Hillary, if Trump is the nominee and pivots to the center in the general election as a problem-solving, independent-minded, successful 'get it done' businessman is that Democrats will no longer be able to count on his personality and outrageous sound bites to disqualify him in the voters' minds."

Trump's formidable challenges remain obvious and in no small measure reflect his general style.

A total of 66 percent of Democrats are very concerned with it, as are 32 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of independents, according to the survey.

Further, 65 percent of Democrats said that the "prestige" of the country would be hurt by his election, as did 19 percent and 29 percent of Republicans and independents, respectively.

But what if Trump lowered the bombast in a general election?

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...illary-clinton

Keep up the good work, Donald J Trump. What you're doing is amazing.

Iowa Trump Supporters: This momentum depends a great deal on you to figure out how to make sure you're registered Republican and be at the Republican caucuses on Monday, February 1st. Donald Trump is doing his part, he's taken on the media, he's taken on the Establishment, he's taken on Congress, he's taken on Hillary and Bill, he's taken on the foreign Muslims, he's taken on the illegal aliens, he's taken on the Globalist Free Trade Traitors .... virtually paid for it all with his own money and taken some sizable business hits here and around the world on our behalf.

I really don't know what more you could ask of a Leader before he's elected or what more you could expect or want from a candidate for President of the United States fighting 16 other Trump-Haters and 1 Copy Cat Clinging to His Coatails, and at least 2 very strong Democratic candidates.

Trump is the ONLY ONE who actually wants to fix our country and without a doubt of any kind, he is the only one with the skills to do it.

As to the author's suggestion that Trump reduce the "bombast" to win the General Election? Oh no, that won't be necessary. His bombast as you call it is why he'll win the General Election if Republicans will unite and support him for the nomination.

Friday, Jan 8, 2016 05:30 PM EST

Ted Cruz is worse: The only thing scarier than Trump winning the nomination is him losing it
Stop freaking out about Trump winning the nomination because compared to Cruz, his agenda looks downright moderate
Amanda Marcotte

It’s just a few short weeks until primary voting begins, meaning we’re going to endure one, maybe two at the most rounds of journalists writing hopeful articles projecting that Donald Trump loses, even though he has held the lead in polls since July. The latest round was kicked off by Ezra Klein of Vox, who wrote a piece projecting Trump’s lead holds right up until the end, when Republican voters come to their senses and switch off to someone supposedly more respectable. Ross Douthat of The New York Times echoes the same argument, though adding that he doesn’t think Trump has to lose any votes, so much as someone else has to coalesce support to beat him.

Both these pieces are remarkable for leaning more heavily on hunches than political science, adding an air of wistfulness to the whole enterprise. It’s not that these writers are wrong, exactly. It could play out that way, sure, though it could also play out a totally different way that leads Trump to the nomination, just as easily.

But I have to ask: So what? Who really cares if Donald Trump wins the nomination?

It’s obvious why Douthat cares. He’s a Republican and wants to back someone who is a good soldier and has a better shot at beating Hillary Clinton. But, despite Klein’s ostensibly neutral stance on the topic, it feels like he only bothered to game this out because he really does not want Trump to win. You don’t usually see think pieces gaming out a path to losing for someone with as strong a lead as Trump without that wishfulness underpinning the operation.

To be clear, Klein is far from alone on this. It’s safe to say that many in the media, including the liberal media, find Trump especially disturbing and, even if they will never vote Republican, they want to see someone a little more in line with the party establishment win. That’s why waiting for Trump to collapse and breathlessly wondering if this will be the day has been sport for six months and counting now.

I personally dislike Trump, with his obnoxious racism and his rallies that feel like anti-desegregation meetings from the ’60s and his misogyny and his stupid hair, as well. But, personal style aside, the grim fact of the matter is that Trump is no worse than the wretched hive of scum and villainy that makes up the entire Republican field at this point. Every last one of those mothers is a moral monster who has no business running the country and if any of them win, this country will be so much the sorrier for it.

Let’s say that Trump does flame out, Howard Dean-style, in the month of February. If that does happen, odds are that Ted Cruz, who has been lurking around in the background like Gollum, will step up and take the nomination. It’s not just that Cruz is the favorite “second choice” option for Republican voters, but he’s a strong favorite for Trump supporters, and will vacuum them up in case of a Trump collapse.

If this happens, it will be much worse than if Trump just wins this thing. Cruz has the word “senator” in front of his name and his kids are cute and he’s won an election, so he gets treated as if he’s a less-awful version of Trump. But he is actually way, way worse, if you look past surface issues like squawkiness in the press. Compared to Cruz, Trump’s agenda looks downright moderate.

Take the candidates on two of the major issues driving the election: Taxes and immigration. On both of them, Trump has a nutty right wing agenda that will cause immeasurable damage to this country, but Cruz is even worse.

Trump’s plan is a standard right-wing wish list, promising to reduce deficits when it will clearly explode them by dramatically reducing the amount of taxes the wealthiest Americans pay. But despite the radicalism underpinning it, it still looks, if you squint hard, like a kind of sort of tax plan of the kind you might be familiar with. It’s still technically progressive — people who make under $25,000 will pay nothing, and then three tax brackets on top of that. (Which are clearly designed to allow millionaires and billionaires to see their tax burden plummet, while keeping it roughly the same for everyone else.) It’s dangerous and irresponsible, but at least it is recognizable as a tax plan.

Cruz, on the other hand, plans to eliminate the IRS. Oh, he claims he means to “replace” it, in the same way that Republicans always say they plan to “replace” Obamacare without actually offering a plan to do so. But he’s made this nutty idea, of eliminating the people who actually collect money so that everyone else can do their job, the centerpiece of his campaign. The tax plan he’s tossed on that — a 10% flat tax — is some crazed right-wing radical nonsense, but it almost doesn’t matter. Whether it’s 10%, 20%, or 90%, who cares if you’re running around saying you’re going to shut down the only agency that has the right to collect the money and enforce the tax code, whatever it is?

In other words, Trump is crazy, but Cruz is nihilistic. Trump runs around claiming he’ll make America “great” again (which appears to mean restoring past levels of white supremacy), but Cruz’s attitude is far more reminiscent of a stalker who swears to his obsession object that if he can’t have her, no one can.

Trump’s entire campaign, of course, has been built on his hysteria-mongering on immigration, with his tendency to characterize Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals and his promise to “build the greatest wall that you’ve ever seen” between the U.S. and Mexico. (Never mind that most undocumented immigrants don’t actually sneak across the border but enter with legal visas that then run out.) Oh, and while he’s at it, he promises to make Mexico pay for it. He hasn’t yet promised to get magical elves to build it, but hey, there’s a few weeks to go until the primary.

Cruz’s own father is an immigrant from a Spanish-speaking country, which might make you think he’d be more reasonable about this, but in reality, he’s even more radical than Trump. He not only has signed off on everything Trump wants to do, including mass deportation and ending birthright citizenship, but he goes a step further. While Trump claims to support legal immigration, Cruz promises to halt any increases in legal immigration, claiming that it suppresses wages. (Cruz’s fear that overpopulation reduces wages has not reduced his enthusiasm for forced childbirth, however.)

Cruz likes to trumpet how much “harder” he is on immigration than Trump, in fact. “He’s advocated allowing folks to come back in and become citizens,” Cruz has argued. “I oppose that.”

All this is happening not because Donald Trump is a uniquely obnoxious person, but because the conservative movement in this country, which is indistinguishable from the Republican base, has become radicalized, hateful and desperate. They believe “their” country is being stolen from them. They have become enraptured by the politics of purity, believing that the measure of how good a candidate is lays with how radical he is, how “hard” he is willing to be. The candidates, all of them, are simply responding to what the voters want and what the voters want right now is a candidate who would rather burn this country to the ground than to let conservatives share it with people they see as inferior to them.

In a sick sort of way, the system is working, as the candidates are responding to what their voters want. But that is also why there’s no use worrying about Donald Trump winning the nomination. He may. He may not. But whoever wins — and therefore has a chance at the presidency — will be just as bad, or, as with Cruz, quite likely worse.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/08/ted_...him_losing_it/